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NYC radio market,wheres the fun?

Well I guess theres no reason for us to listen to the NYC radio stations anymore,nothing fun happening.
For Saint Patricks day,we heard no Irish songs at all,and if there was any played I tuned around all day and heard none at all,I also asked a bunch of people.Why cant they play a few Irish songs?Last year CBS FM played a bunch and usually you hear a few here and there.Not this year,not even WDHA in NJ.There hasnt even been any April fool format changes for one day.What is everyone asleep up there in radioville?Last one I can remember is 105.1 playing an all 70s format.Heck even with the numbers,there hasnt been any format changes anywhere!What did the radio industry stop trying?Wheres the fun,wheres the reason to listen?
 
magicjellybeans said:
For Saint Patricks day, we heard no Irish songs at all, and if there was any played I tuned around all day and heard none at all... Last year CBS FM played a bunch and usually you hear a few here and there...

Now, then... I'm sure CBS FM did play The Mamas And The Papas' "Creeque Alley" once or twice that day. You know - with McGuinn and McGuire in the lyrics?

There hasnt even been any April fool format changes for one day. What is everyone asleep up there in radioville?Last one I can remember is 105.1 playing an all 70s format...

Wow, how long ago was that? Was that during their "Mix" days? ??? 105.1 did go all-Broadway for a day, but only to transition from "Mix 105" to "Big 105".
 
fun? what's that?????
fun is so last century dot com....
fun is not on the budget at radio; cost cuts and all, you understand
 
First of all, I'm pretty sure WRXP played some Pogues, Flogging Molly and Dropkick Murphys. So they had the Irish thing covered, though they probably didn't play as much of it as I would have.

Also, if you think NYC radio is bad, you obviously haven't been to the Monmouth/Ocean area. You're not going to find a worse market for radio than that. Plenty of Top 40, Soft Rock and Classic Rock stations, but few other formats have any representation, and there's NO Alternative Rock, Active Rock, Talk (aside from part-time talker WKXW, which focuses on local issues and light stuff ... no national topics or "Hot Talk"), etc. Come enjoy our "wonderful" radio for a while. You'll never know how good you had it in NYC.
 
SoulCrusher said:
few other formats have any representation, and there's NO Alternative Rock [...]

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Oh, I'm sorry, was that me? I know, you're out of range...get thee to a WiFi cloud, stat! :)
 
SoulCrusher said:
First of all, I'm pretty sure WRXP played some Pogues, Flogging Molly and Dropkick Murphys. So they had the Irish thing covered, though they probably didn't play as much of it as I would have.

What, no U2? ???
 
I've got it - When IP audio becomes the norm everywhere and especially in cars, THAT's when the fun will be back. Only this fun will be the delight in watching debt laden, commercial infested, short playlisted, noncreative, complacent, and clueless AM and FM radio stations keel over and die as they're rendered irrelevant by a staggering number of Internet audio choices.

If you find yourself wishing you could have seen the meteor impact that killed the dinosaurs, you may find what's coming to be equally dramatic. And satisfying.

And fun. (If you haven't staked your career on AM/FM radio, that is.)
 
Mike Sheridan said:
The fun left with Joey Reynolds on Friday.

Damn I missed it. I knew that date was FAST approaching. Well good luck to Joey. He'll be back one day. He's to good not to be.
 
Early PPM research indicates the average listener in New York City doesn't enjoy "fun." They tend to tune out when they hear it.

Radio has taken so many bullets to the chest in the past 15 years, PPM is just another one to take away a little of its life.
 
OMG!!! Jim Ryan is programming FRESH!! HOLY GIANT S!!!! "Sounds like some fun might be brewin??????????????""

That sounds like somebody just brewed a fresh pot of fun and is about to dump it on the city!

JIM RYAN!!! He's the absolute living end!!! I can't wait to see what he's going to do with FRESH!!!
 
"this fun will be the delight in watching debt laden, commercial infested, short playlisted, noncreative, complacent, and clueless AM and FM radio stations keel over and die as they're rendered irrelevant by a staggering number of Internet audio choices."

It is sad for broadcasting as a business, though hardly a problem at all for listeners, that most of the innovation and creativity, most of the honesty, and most of the energy, is to be found on non-comm stations thatadvertisers can't even use to reach clients. It's also no surprise that noncommercial radio is growing in AQH, cume and TSL while the commercial media continue to shrink.

To give them their due, there are a few commercial stations in the English-language radio realm (WCBS-AM, WCBS-FM, WINS, WFAN in New York, and a few here and there in other markets in the Northeast) that take on specific jobs to do for specific, well defined audiences, and they do their jobs of entertaining or informing their listeners well. It's also no coincidence that those stations are growing in both audience and revenue while others they compete with are not. But for every English-language station that defines its audience and serves it well, there are two or three that bore, infuriate, or insult potential listeners--or in some cases, especially in the talk radio realm, all three at once. (Can't comment on the Spanish-language stations, don't know enough about how good a job they do for their target listeners. Maybe they do a better job, maybe not.)

Think the companies that are suffering because they're doing a poor job will ever learn from those few commercial and noncomm stations that DO a good job, and start emulating their simple plan of actually doing a decent job of programming and serving listeners?

I'm not holding my breath...
 
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