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O&A in penalty box for a month; what will WBCN run?

raccoonradio

raccoonradio

If you haven't heard, Opie and Anthony are suspended for a month by XM . WBCN carries part of the show.
Not sure what they will do--fill in host? best of? (In NY they're running best of Ron and Fez, I read...)
 
raccoonradio said:
If you haven't heard, Opie and Anthony are suspended for a month by XM . WBCN carries part of the show.
Not sure what they will do--fill in host? best of? (In NY they're running best of Ron and Fez, I read...)
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They were suspended by XM, no word on CBS' intent to drop programming.
 
What a load of crap. Not that I listen to them on BCN or XM, but if you take them off the beach and put them on subscription radio, where ANYTHING goes and does, then complain about what they do its BS.

XM and Sirius want to merge, there are some anti trust "issues" (more BS) and there are the moral minority types who want to impose thier morality on subscription radio. Is this XM's way of trying to appease congress and the FCC?

My prediction... CBS walks away from them, Toucher and Rich go to mornings on BCN
 
Looks like I was wrong and CBS is sticking by them....

it is book time and CBS sure needs a good book right now
 
Neggy said:
Looks like I was wrong and CBS is sticking by them....

it is book time and CBS sure needs a good book right now
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They sure do. You'd think their East Coast stations in Boston, NYC and Philly
would be doing really well but their numbers really suck.
I am not saying bring Roth back, but these guys are proving they
can't deliver.

I think Les Moon-bat-ves will walk away from them but not because
they're raunchy and vile but because their 15 minutes are up and no one really
cares for that type of radio anymore. Just my 2 cents...Discuss.
 
brightonboris said:
Neggy said:
Looks like I was wrong and CBS is sticking by them....

it is book time and CBS sure needs a good book right now
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They sure do. You'd think their East Coast stations in Boston, NYC and Philly
would be doing really well but their numbers really suck.
I am not saying bring Roth back, but these guys are proving they
can't deliver.

I think Les Moon-bat-ves will walk away from them but not because
they're raunchy and vile but because their 15 minutes are up and no one really
cares for that type of radio anymore. Just my 2 cents...Discuss.
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You nailed it. I use to enjoy this type of radio when it was called Howard Stern but it grew boring.
 
TowerBuzz said:
Prepare for another career ending rant!

::)
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Guy Talk, Free FM, whatever you call this genre....has left the building and no one has bothered to inform these guys. Les Moon-bat-vies ordered Dan Mason to dismantle Joel Hollander's mess. Mason has fired Imus, JV, Elvis and now he'll be looking to yank these guys the second they get out of line. And knowing how dumb they both are, they'll say something idiotic which will get them canned.

XM run is over. CBS syndication is on borrowed time. No one wants anything to do with these guys now. WRKO may have multiple openings soon. Maybe their agent can forward T&R to Julie and Jason.
 
I read that if BCN tanks in the Spring book they are thinking about going to the new Triple T
format that was developed by programming consultant E. Alvin Davis. It stands for Time Temperature and Trafiic.
All live time checks, temperature/weather and traffic alll the time 24 7.

It is geting hugh numbers at WYWW in Toledo OH. E. Alvin says every market will have a Tripple T format by 2010
 
NHRonin said:
You nailed it. I use to enjoy this type of radio when it was called Howard Stern but it grew boring.
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I'm not a fan of shock-talk radio in general, but Howard was much better at it than any of his wannabee followers and imitators. Even if I didn't care for the content of his show, I could appreciate the skill and coolness that he presented it with, which is sorely lacking in the many who have attempted to ride his ratings coattails.
 
Neggy is right about XM and Sirius. Ya think they would suspend Stern? HA! no way!

Whoever said it was about the dollars is right. O & A and Imus have followings but these conglomerates are all looking for the next Stern. Being creative means more than just saying something over the top. Stern does it all the time but he does bring some substance to the table as well. Who tunes in to O & A for substance?
 
Varulven said:
Neggy is right about XM and Sirius. Ya think they would suspend Stern? HA! no way!

Whoever said it was about the dollars is right. O & A and Imus have followings but these conglomerates are all looking for the next Stern. Being creative means more than just saying something over the top. Stern does it all the time but he does bring some substance to the table as well. Who tunes in to O & A for substance?
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Good point. After Howard left terrestrial radio, the whole genre just folded like a cheap beach chair. These guys like Imus, O&A and anyone who challenged Stern were all living off Howard's talents for years. He actually helped to prolong their careers somewhat by getting into feuds with them and keeping them in the spotlight. Now that Howard is not here, these guys got exposed for being complete frauds that they are.

Listen to their farewell address tomorrow from 6 to 9am on WBCN.
I hope they pay tribute to Howard. That's the least they can do.

Goodbye, O&A. I hope you saved well.
 
Varulven said:
Neggy is right about XM and Sirius. Ya think they would suspend Stern? HA! no way!

Whoever said it was about the dollars is right. O & A and Imus have followings but these conglomerates are all looking for the next Stern. Being creative means more than just saying something over the top. Stern does it all the time but he does bring some substance to the table as well. Who tunes in to O & A for substance?
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Actually no, Imus had no following to speak of, had no numbers and has not for years. He did have advertisers that were of a pretty high calibur though. Stern is smarter than veryone else in that you never hear of his being suspended etc. He knows there is a line and he knows how to counter balance it with topical material that is not just shock for shock's sake.
 
<<Opie and Anthony will be live on the air tomorrow on WBCN.

Interesting that CBS is doing this. I figured basically their show was an XM affair
and CBS stations were allowed to run part of it so when XM suspended them
I thought, CBS stations will have to come up with replacement programming.
Guess they won't have to--at least not tomorrow...
 
Boston Radio Watch has more including a link to a NYTimes article that mentions that 2 O&A sponsors
in NYC pulled their spots due to content of the show: NY Lottery and Trojan condoms.

http://www.bostonradiowatch.com

"However, CBS announced today that it will continue running the 6am to 9am program on close to two dozen of its stations around the country including WBCN 104.1FM in Boston. As of now, CBS lost one national advertiser according to NY Times report. That kind of defensive move by XM wasn't supposed to be required in the satellite radio industry because it operates beyond the rules and regulations of the Federal Communications Commission. Indeed, a good part of the original lure and selling point of XM and its rival, Sirius Satellite Radio, was the way hosts like Opie and Anthony, Howard Stern could finally say whatever they wanted without worrying about fines, suspensions, firings, etc."
 
I respectfully disagree with you Towerbuzz. When I say they "have followings" I do not say that they are
huge, they do speak to millions (as opposed to Tom Finneran and WBCN the proverbial trees falling in the forest with no one to hear them)

this is from 2 years ago
http://www.businessweek.com/the_thread/brandnewday/archives/2005/04/imus_audience_s.html

April 26, 2005
Imus Audience Slips in New York. But He Still Packs a Punch

O & A and Imus will always have enough audience to keep them employed somewhere, but Stern isn't worried about either of them. My point is that some loony station somewhere will always gravitate to them because there is no creative spark or spirit in the radio business today. Radio just doesn't want to find new talent that draws, they want it to come to them.
 
raccoonradio said:
Boston Radio Watch has more including a link to a NYTimes article that mentions that 2 O&A sponsors
in NYC pulled their spots due to content of the show: NY Lottery and Trojan condoms.

http://www.bostonradiowatch.com

"However, CBS announced today that it will continue running the 6am to 9am program on close to two dozen of its stations around the country including WBCN 104.1FM in Boston. As of now, CBS lost one national advertiser according to NY Times report. That kind of defensive move by XM wasn't supposed to be required in the satellite radio industry because it operates beyond the rules and regulations of the Federal Communications Commission. Indeed, a good part of the original lure and selling point of XM and its rival, Sirius Satellite Radio, was the way hosts like Opie and Anthony, Howard Stern could finally say whatever they wanted without worrying about fines, suspensions, firings, etc."
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If subscription fees were paying the entire cost, then O&A and Stern could say anything with no fear of discipline. However, satellite radio needs advertising on its non-music channels to survive. Corporate America will not associate itself with anything that brings negative publicity to its products, and having people hear ads for those companies' products between O&A regulars' rape fantasies is guilt by association in the minds of those in Corporate America's boardrooms.

This was inevitable. Only utopians could have believed the "say whatever they wanted" BS that both companies were putting out as hype. XM's a corporation and, despite what is put out for public consumption by its PR department, its primary allegiances are to its investors and advertisers, not the fry cooks and taxi drivers who think radio ought to sound just like "guy talk" in some blue-collar bar.
 
Very well stated, CT, only Stern might be the exception. "That's Howard being Howard" no matter how cruel or abusive because the entire company seems to be depending on him. Howard being a businessman now probably wouldn't go there without a safety net in place. The bigger issue is that Howard doesn't HAVE TO go there.
O & A do.
 
This was inevitable. Only utopians could have believed the "say whatever they wanted" BS that both companies were putting out as hype. XM's a corporation and, despite what is put out for public consumption by its PR department, its primary allegiances are to its investors and advertisers, not the fry cooks and taxi drivers who think radio ought to sound just like "guy talk" in some blue-collar bar.

Well, the other elephant in the room is that the business model for XM and Sirius doesn't work and they're lobbying Congress for approval to merge the two services in order to survive. When their lawyers found out about the Condi Rice/Laura Bush/QE rape fantasies they must have damn near had heart attacks, making O&A instant liabilities. When your game isn't that strong, it usually isn't a good idea to let the manager of the team think they'd be better off with you out of the lineup.

Maybe the guy who originally put these guys on the air, Bruce Mittman, was right when he opined that they have professional death wishes.

Regards,
TSB
 
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