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Obit: Missoula LibTalk

Liberal radio fans lament loss
By ROBERT STRUCKMAN of the Missoulian

Liberal listeners of KKNS 105.9 FM reacted with outrage this week after Salt Lake City-based Simmons Media Group killed the station's progressive talk format.

About six weeks ago, Simmons Media took over the operation of three new Missoula stations previously run by Mount Sentinel Broadcasting, part of a Chicago-based media group known more for wheeling-and-dealing stations than running stations for the long term.

The liberal talk featuring local news and Air America Radio made waves in Missoula when Mount Sentinel first began airing the format last summer. And Air America host Al Franken visited the city for a taping of his show earlier this year.

On Monday and Tuesday this week, Simmons replaced the liberal talk format with “jack rock,” saying the station's advertising space wasn't selling despite a respectable 3.6 share of the area's radio audience - as measured by Oregon-based Eastlan Resources. “Jack” is a term meaning a mix of Top 40, hair band, rock and pop music.

The switch didn't sit well with the station's audience.

“I got dozens of calls,” said Dave Cowan, general manager of KKNS and its two sister stations, KDTR 103.3 FM and KKVU 104.5 FM.

Many listeners cried foul, saying the death of liberal talk on KKNS is another example of conservative media owners influencing the content. Simmons owner David E. Simmons gave $12,000 to the Republican Party and Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, in 2005. He has also contributed to President Bush, as well as local Utah candidates.

But Simmons denied any political motivation in the programming change.

“I have donated to the Republican Party. I've also donated to Democratic candidates,” Simmons said. The bulk of his contributions have gone to Republicans who happen to be his friends and because “Utah is a heavily Republican state,” he said.

As for a political bias in the decision to cut liberal programming, Simmons said, “The answer is absolutely and unequivocally no.”

Simmons radio stations run the gamut, he said, from very liberal to ultra-conservative. One host, Tom Barberry, is an “unabashed Democrat who castigates the Republican party on a daily basis to the constant chagrin of conservatives,” he said.

Michael Savage airs after Barberry. Savage is “one of the most obnoxious conservatives that you can find on the dial. I'd rather listen to Al Franken than Mike Savage,” Simmons said.

“I think it's extremely dangerous to be in broadcasting and to have a political agenda,” he said. [/b]“The reality for us is we're much more interested in what's going to create success in the markets where we operate.”[/b]

When best-selling author and Air America Radio host Franken heard the news about KKNS, he said: “It's a shock. It doesn't make any sense to me. Our ratings were great. We were beating Rush Limbaugh. I was wiping the floor with Rush.”

Franken, whose show was a popular centerpiece on KKNS, said he doesn't pay much attention to the business side of the radio business. But he loved the turnout at his Missoula benefit show.

“We had like 2 percent of the town!” he said.

And the ratings?

“I looked at those ratings and went, this IS the model. This is what we should be touting. This is THE model,” he said.

“If you're generating those numbers, you should be able to sell to somebody. Advertisers have to know that Missoula is a pretty liberal town. I don't see why advertising on our station would be something to be afraid of,” Franken said.

The decision to kill the station after only eight months on the air showed, at least, that Simmons Media was eager to pull the plug, he said.

Cowan said none of the three stations, bought in a Federal Communications Auction last year, have been profitable yet. But KKNS was on the wrong track, he said.

The station's advertising spots were a tough sell. He said Mount Sentinel ad staff tried to sell time on the three stations together, offering discounts for cross-station buys.

But retailers who flocked to The Trail held KKNS at arm's reach, Cowan said. Company representatives told him they feared alienating customers.


Cowan switched tactics, asking the station's ad reps to sell dry, 15-second National Public Radio-type underwriting ads. The reps also offered cut-rate spots for firms wanting to promote a favorite nonprofit, he said.

But the spots never sold well. The show was simply losing too much money, Cowan said.

Michael Harrison, publisher of Talkers Magazine in Springfield, Mass., said talk radio stations are sometimes hard sells in small markets where relationships often mean more than ratings.

“Anything beyond plain vanilla entertainment runs the risk of earning a spot on a ‘no buy' list,” Harrison said.


Station owners rarely make decisions based on political leanings, he said. Radio is ultimately an economic medium, not a political one, Harrison said.

For example, Clear Channel, a publicly traded company owned in large part by the conservative Mays family, has turned more stations into liberal-talk, Air America stations than any other company. Clear Channel is also one of the nation's largest radio companies, with about 1,200 stations.

“The marketplace dictates many times what people get to hear,” Harrison said.

Cowan said advertisers in Missoula simply didn't embrace the liberal format. He regrets not selling the station more creatively, he said.

“It can be done,” Cowan said.

“I hope we get another station there,” Franken said. He said he would gladly return to Missoula.

As for North of Hamilton, he'll change the dial reset button on his car radio. More likely, he'll tune out radio altogether.

“It's discouraging. I only discovered it about six weeks ago. I loved it,” North said.

http://www.missoulian.com/articles/2006/03/03/news/local/news03.txt
 
Radio Eq.: Might AAR lose its NYC flagship?

http://radioequalizer.blogspot.com

"WORST CASE REALITY--Air America Appears To Lose Flagship Station
Exclusive To The Radio Equalizer

In a development sure to rip the heart right out of the liberal radio network's already ailing body, it appears extremely likely their leased New York City flagship station WLIB-AM will soon abandon Air America programming.
Even worse, litigation looks probable over the station's lease.

While the network's last day on WLIB isn't known for certain, an internal source providing backing documentation points to the end of March. At this time, Air America parent Piquant LLC has no firm back-up plan for where in the nation's largest radio market its programming will now air.

Some inside the firm are already referring to WLIB in the past tense.

Without WLIB, Air America faces an immediate, crushing blow. Worth perhaps 100 small markets combined, an on-air presence in New York City is absolutely vital to the company's survival. If an immediate and suitable replacement isn't found, the consequences would be dire.

What percentage of Air America's audience would disappear overnight, the Radio Equalizer can't say for sure. Could it be 40%? Fifty percent?
 
>
> Liberal listeners of KKNS 105.9 FM

AAR on _FM_? Then again, there are conservative talkers on in
Boston, Pittsburgh, etc.

> a respectable 3.6
> share of the area's radio audience

not bad for ANY talk station, admittedly
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Re: Radio Eq.: Might AAR lose its NYC flagship?

> "WORST CASE REALITY--Air America Appears To Lose Flagship
> Station
> Exclusive To The Radio Equalizer
>
> In a development sure to rip the heart right out of the
> liberal radio network's already ailing body, it appears
> extremely likely their leased New York City flagship station
> WLIB-AM will soon abandon Air America programming.
> Even worse, litigation looks probable over the station's
> lease.
>
> While the network's last day on WLIB isn't known for
> certain, an internal source providing backing documentation
> points to the end of March. At this time, Air America parent
> Piquant LLC has no firm back-up plan for where in the
> nation's largest radio market its programming will now air.
>
> Some inside the firm are already referring to WLIB in the
> past tense.
>
> Without WLIB, Air America faces an immediate, crushing blow.
> Worth perhaps 100 small markets combined, an on-air presence
> in New York City is absolutely vital to the company's
> survival. If an immediate and suitable replacement isn't
> found, the consequences would be dire.
>
> What percentage of Air America's audience would disappear
> overnight, the Radio Equalizer can't say for sure. Could it
> be 40%? Fifty percent?

If it does happen, there are plenty of stations in New York. Won't be cheap, but you could probably convince one of the high-band Asian stations to make a deal.
 
NYC Not Essential

Air America seems more concerned with bragging rights than running a radio company, but ego aside getting cleared in New York is nice but not necessary.

Glenn Beck
Jim Bohannon
Neal Boortz
Mike Gallagher
Clark Howard
Jerry Doyle
Michael Medved
Stephanie Miller
Dave Ramsey
Ed Schultz
Laura Schlesinger

These and others are currently not cleared in New York.
Note to Phoenix: Salem owns two New York stations and runs preachermercials on both, and not its own talk line-up. Guess maybe there is more money in preachers than in talk.

Air America would be out of their mind to do another LMA. And considering that they have not done an LMA in two years (when they launched), it does not seem likely they would do so now. Also, it was reported when the network launched that their LMAs were for three years. If so, the lease is ending a year early. Verrrrry interrrresting.

And before somebody say Brian Maloney is always wrong, considered the broken clock principle. We will find out in less than a month.

A side note: This may mean ABC is without a New York outlet for the Satellite Sisters, as well.

If WLIB goes back to Carribean Talk, that may provide an opening for LibTalk at WWRL 1600 (although possibly not immediately). The only other realistic possibility IMHO would be WPAT 930, which has a good enough signal to cover most of the Metro area and once did have a presence in the market (Beautiful Music under Cap Cities before they acquired ABC). Now it's brokered ethnic so they may prefer to just let the money come in through the transom and not get back into real radio.
 
Re: NYC Not Essential

> Glenn Beck
> Jim Bohannon
> Neal Boortz
> Mike Gallagher
> Clark Howard
> Jerry Doyle
> Michael Medved
> Stephanie Miller
> Dave Ramsey
> Ed Schultz
> Laura Schlesinger

> These and others are currently not cleared in New York.
> Note to Phoenix: Salem owns two New York stations and runs
> preachermercials on both, and not its own talk line-up.
> Guess maybe there is more money in preachers than in talk.

The aforementioned Dr. Laura IS on WWDJ 970, owned by aforementioned Salem. Mike Gallagher is proof that local talkers don't make good syndicated talkers (necessarily) - WABC won't even run one of his separate weekend hours! You are correct, but the shows listed above are not "A list" shows. I may like some of them, but let's face it, none of them are superstars, some are downright bad, and some are regional forces (Boortz, Ramsey).

(Granted, Boortz and others claim market #1 clearances for stations in CT or NJ thanks to Arbitron market definitions, but we get your point in that they have no NYC influence. Also add Phil Hendrie to the list).

> Air America would be out of their mind to do another LMA.
> And considering that they have not done an LMA in two years
> (when they launched), it does not seem likely they would do
> so now. Also, it was reported when the network launched
> that their LMAs were for three years. If so, the lease is
> ending a year early. Verrrrry interrrresting.

Maybe they shouldn't, but the question is do they want to be superstars. Maybe 'RL would clear Randi in Colmes' 10-midnight spot, which gives them a paper clearance, but no real street cred in the city. Good enough for spot sales but is it good enough to use with PDs? There aren't any other talents that would get barter clearances on their own; not the morning people, not Springer (save Michaels' influence), not Franken, not Seder, not Malloy. And not Maron.

> A side note: This may mean ABC is without a New York outlet
> for the Satellite Sisters, as well.

Good. Maybe they'll have to cancel it then.

> If WLIB goes back to Carribean Talk, that may provide an
> opening for LibTalk at WWRL 1600 (although possibly not
> immediately). The only other realistic possibility IMHO
> would be WPAT 930, which has a good enough signal to cover
> most of the Metro area and once did have a presence in the
> market (Beautiful Music under Cap Cities before they
> acquired ABC). Now it's brokered ethnic so they may prefer
> to just let the money come in through the transom and not
> get back into real radio.

'RL knows that "urban talk" can't generate piles of money, especially only a decent signal, so they pile in a bunch of health rubbish from 10-3 to generate $5-7k/day they wouldn't have otherwise. Perhaps they could be worked with, but don't think that unless you wave some serious dollars around that they're going to get rid of that bread and butter during off hours.

BTW, in a city as diverse as New York, what makes ethnic stations not "real radio"? There are plenty of people who want and need to hear content in different languages.
 
After 6 long weeks of trying they gave up!? Why did Mount Sentinel sell? All three stations sold!? No shock the reps from Mount Sentinel couldn't sell the station if the reporter is right about their reputation.

Now this is the "plot thickens" moment. Something isn't adding up and my guess is it isn't lack of revenue- it's desire to play another format and lack of interest at many levels in the currrent format.

> Liberal radio fans lament loss
> By ROBERT STRUCKMAN of the Missoulian
>
> Liberal listeners of KKNS 105.9 FM reacted with outrage this
> week after Salt Lake City-based Simmons Media Group killed
> the station's progressive talk format.
>
> About six weeks ago, Simmons Media took over the operation
> of three new Missoula stations previously run by Mount
> Sentinel Broadcasting, part of a Chicago-based media group
> known more for wheeling-and-dealing stations than running
> stations for the long term.
>
> The liberal talk featuring local news and Air America Radio
> made waves in Missoula when Mount Sentinel first began
> airing the format last summer. And Air America host Al
> Franken visited the city for a taping of his show earlier
> this year.
>
> On Monday and Tuesday this week, Simmons replaced the
> liberal talk format with “jack rock,” saying the station's
> advertising space wasn't selling despite a respectable 3.6
> share of the area's radio audience - as measured by
> Oregon-based Eastlan Resources. “Jack” is a term meaning a
> mix of Top 40, hair band, rock and pop music.
>
> The switch didn't sit well with the station's audience.
>
> “I got dozens of calls,” said Dave Cowan, general manager of
> KKNS and its two sister stations, KDTR 103.3 FM and KKVU
> 104.5 FM.
>
> Many listeners cried foul, saying the death of liberal talk
> on KKNS is another example of conservative media owners
> influencing the content. Simmons owner David E. Simmons gave
> $12,000 to the Republican Party and Sen. Orrin Hatch,
> R-Utah, in 2005. He has also contributed to President Bush,
> as well as local Utah candidates.
>
> But Simmons denied any political motivation in the
> programming change.
>
> “I have donated to the Republican Party. I've also donated
> to Democratic candidates,” Simmons said. The bulk of his
> contributions have gone to Republicans who happen to be his
> friends and because “Utah is a heavily Republican state,” he
> said.
>
> As for a political bias in the decision to cut liberal
> programming, Simmons said, “The answer is absolutely and
> unequivocally no.”
>
> Simmons radio stations run the gamut, he said, from very
> liberal to ultra-conservative. One host, Tom Barberry, is an
> “unabashed Democrat who castigates the Republican party on a
> daily basis to the constant chagrin of conservatives,” he
> said.
>
> Michael Savage airs after Barberry. Savage is “one of the
> most obnoxious conservatives that you can find on the dial.
> I'd rather listen to Al Franken than Mike Savage,” Simmons
> said.
>
> “I think it's extremely dangerous to be in broadcasting and
> to have a political agenda,” he said. “The reality for us is
> we're much more interested in what's going to create success
> in the markets where we operate.”
>
> When best-selling author and Air America Radio host Franken
> heard the news about KKNS, he said: “It's a shock. It
> doesn't make any sense to me. Our ratings were great. We
> were beating Rush Limbaugh. I was wiping the floor with
> Rush.”
>
> Franken, whose show was a popular centerpiece on KKNS, said
> he doesn't pay much attention to the business side of the
> radio business. But he loved the turnout at his Missoula
> benefit show.
>
> “We had like 2 percent of the town!” he said.
>
> And the ratings?
>
> “I looked at those ratings and went, this IS the model. This
> is what we should be touting. This is THE model,” he said.
>
> “If you're generating those numbers, you should be able to
> sell to somebody. Advertisers have to know that Missoula is
> a pretty liberal town. I don't see why advertising on our
> station would be something to be afraid of,” Franken said.
>
> The decision to kill the station after only eight months on
> the air showed, at least, that Simmons Media was eager to
> pull the plug, he said.
>
> Cowan said none of the three stations, bought in a Federal
> Communications Auction last year, have been profitable yet.
> But KKNS was on the wrong track, he said.
>
> The station's advertising spots were a tough sell. He said
> Mount Sentinel ad staff tried to sell time on the three
> stations together, offering discounts for cross-station
> buys.
>
> But retailers who flocked to The Trail held KKNS at arm's
> reach, Cowan said. Company representatives told him they
> feared alienating customers.
>
> Cowan switched tactics, asking the station's ad reps to sell
> dry, 15-second National Public Radio-type underwriting ads.
> The reps also offered cut-rate spots for firms wanting to
> promote a favorite nonprofit, he said.
>
> But the spots never sold well. The show was simply losing
> too much money, Cowan said.
>
> Michael Harrison, publisher of Talkers Magazine in
> Springfield, Mass., said talk radio stations are sometimes
> hard sells in small markets where relationships often mean
> more than ratings.
>
> “Anything beyond plain vanilla entertainment runs the risk
> of earning a spot on a ‘no buy' list,” Harrison said.
>
> Station owners rarely make decisions based on political
> leanings, he said. Radio is ultimately an economic medium,
> not a political one, Harrison said.
>
> For example, Clear Channel, a publicly traded company owned
> in large part by the conservative Mays family, has turned
> more stations into liberal-talk, Air America stations than
> any other company. Clear Channel is also one of the nation's
> largest radio companies, with about 1,200 stations.
>
> “The marketplace dictates many times what people get to
> hear,” Harrison said.
>
> Cowan said advertisers in Missoula simply didn't embrace the
> liberal format. He regrets not selling the station more
> creatively, he said.
>
> “It can be done,” Cowan said.
>
> “I hope we get another station there,” Franken said. He said
> he would gladly return to Missoula.
>
> As for North of Hamilton, he'll change the dial reset button
> on his car radio. More likely, he'll tune out radio
> altogether.
>
> “It's discouraging. I only discovered it about six weeks
> ago. I loved it,” North said.
>
http://> www.missoulian.com/articles/2006/03/03/news/local/news03.txt
>
 
Re: NYC Not Essential

Both WPAT and WWRL look OK, but how about WQEW- wasting airspace at 50kW in NY.

My war against Radio Disney continues.

> If WLIB goes back to Carribean Talk, that may provide an
> opening for LibTalk at WWRL 1600 (although possibly not
> immediately). The only other realistic possibility IMHO
> would be WPAT 930, which has a good enough signal to cover
> most of the Metro area and once did have a presence in the
> market (Beautiful Music under Cap Cities before they
> acquired ABC). Now it's brokered ethnic so they may prefer
> to just let the money come in through the transom and not
> get back into real radio.
>
 
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