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Ocean County needs a station like WRAT

J

JerseyShor

Ocean County needs a station like WRAT - a *MALE* focused, harder Modern Rock station.

G-Rock is decent, but very safe and female oriented.

WMMR comes in well, but it just isn't as strong as a local Ocean County station.
 
Isn't WRAT licensed to Point Pleasant in Ocean County? 95.9 seems to come in pretty well as far south as Island Beach St Park.



> Ocean County needs a station like WRAT - a *MALE* focused,
> harder Modern Rock station.
>
> G-Rock is decent, but very safe and female oriented.
>
> WMMR comes in well, but it just isn't as strong as a local
> Ocean County station.
>
 
> Isn't WRAT licensed to Point Pleasant in Ocean County? 95.9
> seems to come in pretty well as far south as Island Beach St
> Park.<

The Rat is indeed licensed to Point Pleasant, Ocean County. And I can get the signal quite well on the OEM radio in my Ford Ranger well south of Island Beach State Park. Maybe not in Tuckerton, of course. But pretty much over most of Ocean County. By the way, there's not much chance of moving the Rat's tower in any direction, due to spacing rules and interference issues.

Steve
KC2LDY
 
> Ocean County needs a station like WRAT - a *MALE* focused,
> harder Modern Rock station.
>
> G-Rock is decent, but very safe and female oriented.

Ocean County needs a station that struggles to get a 2-share?

With B98.5 gone, The Rat has taken over as the market's lowest-rated station. The audience just isn't there for what you're describing.
 
the Rat is in the northern corner of Ocean County.
Maybe they should buy WBHX 99.7 down on LBI and simulcast.
then the Rat would really cover Ocean County..


> > Isn't WRAT licensed to Point Pleasant in Ocean County?
> 95.9
> > seems to come in pretty well as far south as Island Beach
> St
> > Park.<
>
> The Rat is indeed licensed to Point Pleasant, Ocean County.
> And I can get the signal quite well on the OEM radio in my
> Ford Ranger well south of Island Beach State Park. Maybe
> not in Tuckerton, of course. But pretty much over most of
> Ocean County. By the way, there's not much chance of moving
> the Rat's tower in any direction, due to spacing rules and
> interference issues.
>
> Steve
> KC2LDY
>
 
> > Ocean County needs a station like WRAT - a *MALE* focused,
>
> > harder Modern Rock station.
> >
> > G-Rock is decent, but very safe and female oriented.
>
> Ocean County needs a station that struggles to get a
> 2-share?
>
> With B98.5 gone, The Rat has taken over as the market's
> lowest-rated station. The audience just isn't there for
> what you're describing.
>

The station strugges to get a 2 share because nobody can hear it.
 
> The Rat is indeed licensed to Point Pleasant, Ocean County.
> And I can get the signal quite well on the OEM radio in my
> Ford Ranger well south of Island Beach State Park.

Keep in mind, the average listener is not a 40 dBu/.1 mV DXer. The "clock radio" / "walkman" / "boombox" signal doesn't get south of Island Beach State Park, that leaves Barnegat / Manahawkin / Tuckerton / Little Egg Harbor / Eagleswood / LBI unserved.
 
> The station strugges to get a 2 share because nobody can
> hear it.

Then why was it always in the 3-5 share range when it was WADB?
 
> > The station strugges to get a 2 share because nobody can
> > hear it.
>
> Then why was it always in the 3-5 share range when it was
> WADB?

-95.7 from Philly didn't have IBOC - it does now
-The population in Southern Ocean County is now over 100,000 - back in the WADB days it was considerably less
-96.1 WTTH signed on in 1989.
 
> the Rat is in the northern corner of Ocean County.
> Maybe they should buy WBHX 99.7 down on LBI and simulcast.
>
>
i thought WRAT's transmitter was located along side their studio on F St, in South Belmar, sorry, I mean Lake Como (Monmouth county).
>
 
> > the Rat is in the northern corner of Ocean County.
> > Maybe they should buy WBHX 99.7 down on LBI and
> simulcast.
> >
> >
> i thought WRAT's transmitter was located along side their
> studio on F St, in South Belmar, sorry, I mean Lake Como
> (Monmouth county).
> >
>

Actually it IS exactly there!
 
you are correct the WRAT's transmitter is Located in monmouth county even though it Licensed as an Ocean county station( Point Pleseant).



> > the Rat is in the northern corner of Ocean County.
> > Maybe they should buy WBHX 99.7 down on LBI and
> simulcast.
> >
> >
> i thought WRAT's transmitter was located along side their
> studio on F St, in South Belmar, sorry, I mean Lake Como
> (Monmouth county).
> >
>
 
Jersey SHor, you have no idea what you're talking about. WRAT gets a 2 share b/c it sounds like crap. It has the same coverage in mon/oc as the Breeze and G106 and WJLK. Its covers more population than 105-7 The Hawk and WOBM-FM and therefore covers more arbitron responders. Yet it gets beat by all those stations. WIth posts like those above, its clear you have no clue.
 
This Lake Como ?

> > >
> > i thought WRAT's transmitter was located along side their
> > studio on F St, in South Belmar, sorry, I mean Lake Como
> > (Monmouth county).
> > >
> >
>
> Actually it IS exactly there!
>
 
> This Lake Como ?
>
> > > >
> > > i thought WRAT's transmitter was located along side
> their
> > > studio on F St, in South Belmar, sorry, I mean Lake Como
>
> > > (Monmouth county).
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > Actually it IS exactly there!
> >
>
Lake Como, bordering Belmar Boro.. Haha, surely far from a resort or anything lovely or picturesque. I never could understand how Pt. Pleasant is their COL yet the Lake Como/S. Belmar transmitter is in another county. I would think at least they'd change their COL to Belmar/Point Pleasant.
 
Transmitter locations and city of license have no
correlation. WMGM Atlantic City is in Pleasantville.
WZBZ Pleasantville is in Atlantic City.
WIXM Millville (Cumberland County) is in Corbin City,
Atlantic County. WPST Trenton is in Yardville, Pennsylvania.
WHYY TV Wilmington, Delaware is in Philadelphia, PA.
WRNB Pennsauken, NJ is in Philadelphia, PA.
WPHT 1210 Philadelphia is in Moorestown, NJ.
WZXL Wildwood and WMGM-TV Wildwood are both
in Swainton (and formerly WCMC-FM and WCMC-TV)

Just a few off the top of my head.

> > This Lake Como ?
> >
> > > > >
> > > > i thought WRAT's transmitter was located along side
> > their
> > > > studio on F St, in South Belmar, sorry, I mean Lake
> Como
> >
> > > > (Monmouth county).
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Actually it IS exactly there!
> > >
> >
> Lake Como, bordering Belmar Boro.. Haha, surely far from a
> resort or anything lovely or picturesque. I never could
> understand how Pt. Pleasant is their COL yet the Lake
> Como/S. Belmar transmitter is in another county. I would
> think at least they'd change their COL to Belmar/Point
> Pleasant.
>
 
I totally agree with you on this one. The Rat has no signal, when I was there 9 years ago, just after they became the RAT, hanging with Hook and the gang, they knew the signal fell apart 15 miles from the Xmtr. They were hoping for a strong, local, head banging audiance. I am looking at pictures I took there, October, 15, 1996, WADB was still on the building, round sign on the east side in gold, and lettering with calls on the south side. Looking north up the coast the stand alone tower (painted red and white), is just west behind the building, its not a tall tower, there are some microwave antennas half way up and the top mast has a four bay antenna with a round ring on the top. Looking at the tower its hard to think the signal being anything but BAD. This is over 9 years ago, so I don't know what it looks like now at the site. Have not heard the station in years and if the original crew is still there, but I have to agree, if the format was on a FULL POWERED signal, they would crack the top FIVE in OC.
 
> Jersey SHor, you have no idea what you're talking about.
> WRAT gets a 2 share b/c it sounds like crap. It has the same
> coverage in mon/oc as the Breeze and G106 and WJLK.


Are you unaware that The Breeze has TWO stations in Monmouth-Ocean?
Are you unaware that G-Rock has TWO stations in Monmouth-Ocean?

The Breeze operates WWZY/107.1 in Monmouth County AND WBHX/99.7 in Ocean County.
G-Rock operates WHTG/106.3 in Monmouth County AND WBBO/98.5 in Ocean County.

The 107.1 and 106.3 signals are just as bad as 95.9 which is why BOTH The Breeze and G-Rock simulcast on Ocean County stations!

Please, try to listen to WRAT or WWZY or WHTG-FM in Manahawkin, Ship Bottom, Harvey Cedars, Barnegat, Beach Haven, Eagleswood, Tuckerton and Little Egg Harbor. You will NOT get them.

WRAT doesn't have the power OR height mecessary to reach the southern half of the county - it's too much distance (almost 45 miles).
WRAT gets destroyed by WBEN-FM's IBOC on 95.7 in the southern half of the county.
WRAT gets destroyed by WTTH's strong signal on 96.1 in the southern half of the county.

Please don't comment unless you at least have a vauge idea of what you're talking about.
 
Also...

Aren't you the same "Jay" who claimed that the MOST POWERFUL station in all of Monmouth Ocean had a crappy signal?

(WCHR-FM's 13,000 watts from a nearly 500 foot tower in Manahawkin)
 
45 miles is at the fringe of a 50,000 watt/150 meter (500 foot)
Class B, let alone a 3,000 watt Class A. Stations typically
only do well in the 70 and maybe 60 dBu. Yes there are
exceptions, typically unique formats that can't be gotten
locally or on CDs/MP3s. The Rat is what it is - it has
the potential (technically) to get ratings. Look at
Atlantic City ... one of the stations tied for the
number one position is only 6% of the power of the other.
It's all about format as far as ratings go, and ratings
don't necessarily have a lot to do with revenue.
Stations don't change format or go out of business
when the ratings are down. It doesn't always matter.
The # 10 station can make as much money as # 1.

> WRAT doesn't have the power OR height mecessary to reach the
> southern half of the county - it's too much distance (almost
> 45 miles).
 
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