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October 2009 Ratings are in!
- Thread starter d21ofnj
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Even though they're on a lesser signal, I don't think it's that bad of a signal. I can receive it fine here in the Lower East Side. Maybe that drop-off is due to many listeners being surprised by the switch and tuning out in anger.
Also, there are some errors in the grid. For example, the misplaced the old calls WCAA where WXNY's current numbers are. That's also a bit surprising as I thought there wouldn't be a drop-off of more than half because of the frequency shift. I have to think that's an error as well.
As WXNY and Party FM are brand new, we can't make a guess as to where they'd go.
It just continues to grate me that all of these stations with music mixes that I hate continue to have relative success. This means that the demographic make-up isn't going to change radically for the next five years. We may have to wait another 5-10 years before knowing if a pure contemporary dance format is doable on the commercial side of the dial. More years of ghetto urban music, old dance recurrent/hiphop/pop-friendly uptempo blends, older urban music, old rock and old pop. I would go nuts without the internet Italo and Eurodance stations!
Also, there are some errors in the grid. For example, the misplaced the old calls WCAA where WXNY's current numbers are. That's also a bit surprising as I thought there wouldn't be a drop-off of more than half because of the frequency shift. I have to think that's an error as well.
As WXNY and Party FM are brand new, we can't make a guess as to where they'd go.
It just continues to grate me that all of these stations with music mixes that I hate continue to have relative success. This means that the demographic make-up isn't going to change radically for the next five years. We may have to wait another 5-10 years before knowing if a pure contemporary dance format is doable on the commercial side of the dial. More years of ghetto urban music, old dance recurrent/hiphop/pop-friendly uptempo blends, older urban music, old rock and old pop. I would go nuts without the internet Italo and Eurodance stations!
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MarcR
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WRXP (finally) broke the 2,000,000 mark in cume! If they could focus their sound some more by jettisoning much of the remaining dinosaur rock, then maybe their TSL number would improve, too!
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JohnParker
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They are probably still playing it because that music tends to do well in the PPMs. Just look at Q104.
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JohnParker
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Possibly but Q104 seems to be doing well and they do nothing but play it. Maybe they have picked up some unhappy RXP listeners while RXP is turning people back on to the radio?
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stationless listener said:
The October survey ended on the 15th, and the WXNY calls went into effect on 10/16.
No, there is no error, because Arbitron considers a frequency change with either a name or call change and a format change to be a new station. WCAA 96.3 only had numbers in the last week of the book. The monthly number, though, is an average of 4 weeks. So three weeks at 0 and one at 3.6 gets a month at 0.9.
d21ofnj said:
The last week of the survey (8th to the 15th) was the only one of the 4 where the new QXR had numbers. They got about a 0.3 or 0.4 for the week, and, of course, zeros the preceeding three weeks.
Seeing this and the debut week of X 96.3 at a 3.6, you realize how truly horrible the 105.9 signal is.
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moreno
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same old story! univision should focus on tv, they dont know sh*t about radio!d21ofnj said:
moreno said:
WQXR is not a Univision station... it is operated by the same entity that operates WNYC public radio.
And... Univision Radio is the direct descendant of Heftel Broadcasting, Tichenor Media Systems and Hispanic Broadcasting Corporation, and run by experienced radio people... which may be why 96.3 beat Mega in its first week on the air!
kms575 said:
I hope CBS-FM is still doing very well, but looked what happened to WBPM in the HV listening area, it plays not only "Classic Hits", it plays not classic rock with a bunch of others thrown in including adding some 90's music in the mix. "Classic Hits 92.9" isn't "Classic Hits" anymore. That's a terrible radio station, it sounded a lot like the Hudson Valley version of "Jack". Look at the playlist according to the WBPM's website.
I hope that the next couple of years, CBS-FM will be adding 90's music on this station and phasing out 60's music, that means no more Beatles, no more Motown and no more of this 60's stuff, maybe it will phase in 90's music to make the station younger. This will happen probably around 2010, 2012 to 2014. In addition to that, they will add Guns & Roses "Welcome to the Jungle" and "Paradise City", maybe some 90's songs like Atlantis Morrisette's "You Ougtha Know" and REM's "Losing My Religion". That's nothing to happen anytime soon.
WRXP is doing okay, but it is still in the lower 1's, it sounded a lot like WBPM to me, "Q104" is doing better, but it played some WBPM-ish kinda music. I'm have no comment on this one.
Now to the new stations, WQXR moved from 96.3 which has been part of the New York Times for 6 decades to 105.9 as part of WNYC's new ownership. The station was doing bad since day 1, the innargual concert at Caregie Hall was a success since day 1. I have an aircheck if the relaunch of WQXR which was already discussed before. And as for WCAA, it is now WXNY and it is doing badly in the very beginning and they are now going to compete with "Mega 97.9". The new "X-96.3" is doing very poorly at a .1, that is a bad sign for this new format. I hope they need some improvement for this new station. That is a bad move. This is what they did since 1988 when WQHT moved its frequency from 103.5 when it was "Hot 103" to 97.1 which is now "Hot 97" while WFAN moved from 1050 to 660 when WNBC pulled the plug after a 66-year run as a hertitage radio station.
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bobperry
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Disney, I find your continued need to base any (and all) radio station's performance against 92.9 in Saugerties odd. Be that as it may, 96.3 WXNY and 105.9 WQXR first PPM report has nothing to do with how the stations did in their previous dial positions. The ratings are a four week average. Since 96.3 WXNY didn't exist in weeks 1 through 3, they got a 0.0 for each of those weeks. The fourth week (10/8-10/15) they pulled a 3.6. Do the math. The same is true of 105.9 WQXR.
disney fanatic said:
WCAA (which became WCNY on the 16th), in a single week out of 4, got a 3.6, which averaged out to a 0.9 over four weeks. It did extremely well, in fact.
the day that CBS FM phases out Beatles and Motown is the day that they phase out their very solid base of support..
don't hold your breath, the 90s was a horrible decade for what would qualify as universal 'party music'
Beatles and Supremes will still reign supreme a decade from now, as three generations have grown up with and loved these groups and their songs..
don't hold your breath, the 90s was a horrible decade for what would qualify as universal 'party music'
Beatles and Supremes will still reign supreme a decade from now, as three generations have grown up with and loved these groups and their songs..
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moreno
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thats what i hear when i tune to 96.3, they say, an univsion radio station.. maybe we all going nuts lolDavidEduardo said:
The '60s and '70s are staying for a while at CBS-FM. That's the majority of the music the boomers grew up with and they're not going way soon. Let 'RXP and 'PLJ play the '90s music if they wish to do so.
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