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ogl/ysp weaker since the move to the chandelier

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oasisrulz

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Does anyone notice any difference in signal strength with YSP, losing 6400w for a gain of 209 feet, they seem much weaker....and OGL 2kw for 109 feet...much weaker also, since the move to the chandelier towe, both were on their original towers since the early 70's, OGL/CAU-F had their own custom made with nothing else on it, and YSP used Channel 48. I think brute power outweighs antenna height. The old time 50kw, 500ft setups were massive with penetrating structures, not the same with the low powered tall structures nowadays, everyone is trying to save on the electric bill...Same with STW's situation a few years back, sacrficing 2900w for a mesly 7 extra feet....never noticed any change.
 
oasisrulz said:
Does anyone notice any difference in signal strength with YSP, losing 6400w for a gain of 209 feet, they seem much weaker....and OGL 2kw for 109 feet...much weaker also
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I didn't even know they moved... their signals are the same. If I owned a FM in a flat, top 10 market and had the chance to move up to 1100 feet, I'd take it in a heartbeat.

since the move to the chandelier towe,
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That's a candelabra tower, not a chandelier.


Same with STW's situation a few years back, sacrficing 2900w for a mesly 7 extra feet....never noticed any change.
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And you won't. There is absolutely no difference in coverage area between 50,000 watts and 47,100 watts. You need a pretty substantial relative change in ERP to see any difference in coverage area. WSTW went from being a class-B FM to a class-B FM.

Class B's ERP at various HAATs:

50kw @ 150m =
43kw @ 160m =
38kw @ 170m =
34kw @ 180m =
31kw @ 190m =
28kw @ 200m =
12.5kw @ 300m =
6.5kw @ 400m =
3.6kw @ 500m =
2.2kw @ 600m
 
They both sound good up here in schuylkill county still, so does STW. I didn't know they even moved. If the listeners up my way can't tell the difference, I'm sure the people down there can't either, but I must say, 1029 & 1045 take the cake for the strongest signals to the north. These stations can be heard on Rt. 81 from Pine Grove to the Hazleton Area. Sometimes even further than that.
 
YSP still has a strong signal in northeastern MD,not that I listen to it. MMR used to reach Harford county,Md very well but has lost that reach. Radio1045 covers most of Cecil county,MD but is bumped out by Channel1043 Baltimore's CC station. STW is as strong as ever. PHI now comes in better than PLY did :-\.
 
MMR used to reach Harford county,Md very well but has lost that reach.

That is due to the new Comcast structure, it is relatively close and dwarfs their antenna. I have been hearing about their deteriorating signal for a few years now. There are no plans to erect a tower on the Comcast building, to acomodate MMR and RNB. I think MMR would be better off going back to the PSFS tower, they had a monster signal, 25kw @ 660feet and a fantastic location, for years. Its their backup now and would be a good move, although the main reason they moved, is Liberty One blocking them going west, go figure LOL. Then again they can always buy 103.9 from R1, shut them down and move to Roxborough, or just complain to the FCC about 103.9, they do have a clause, that if 103.9 bothers them in any way, they can take serious action. But we all know what R1 would counter with.....
 
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