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Radio and Records is closing its doors after 36 years. That's a tough pill to swallow.
 
I guess you could already see it in their name---two things that are nearly obsolete these days: records, and, of course, radio.

But look how many times R&R's been bought or sold over the years. Surely someone would buy it now, instead of Nielsen just shutting it down (unless the writeoff is more valuable to them.) Me, I always thought they were giving away TOO much for free on their website, with the classifieds, breaking news, contact lists, etc. (Wait--or am I getting them mixed up with AllAccess? Oops, maybe THAT'S part of the problem!) :-\

What's next---the demise of Billboard?
 
Mike,

Considering the fact that records have begun a comeback, I'd hardly call them obsolete. Heck even analog tape is making a comeback, as Quantegy is restoring their famous grand master 456 and 499 tape. Seems that what is old, is new again.
 
It can be confusing...at times the site seems down then refresh a few minutes later and it's actually up. Probably overload of viewers.

This is a sad day in radio world.
 
What's next---the demise of Billboard?
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Imagine what that collection would be worth. Time to beef up the insurance coverage, but that's just me.
 
It's sad, sure, but it's a sign of the times, and I don't think it has _anything_ to do with Radio OR Records. Printed media as a whole is dying. It's being replaced by the Internet and cable news. R&R is not immune to that. There are online sites that offer up pretty much everything R&R delivered - for free.

I'd be willing to bet that within the next 10-20 years there will be no more Star-Telegram and no more Dallas Morning News, at least not in print. Heck the Startlegram is already on the endangered newspapers list. There's a possibility they won't even make it through 2009.
 
Printed media is dying but I believe that this is a case of buying and then destroying the competition. Billboard buys R&R and runs it in the ground so they don't have to compete with them. I've seen it in other things too like radio stations being bought and destroyed to get a heads up in the market. It's sad to see R&R gone. I remember when it first started out and a good friend of mine, Jim Duncan was doing the country music charts from his house for R&R. Then I watched as it became the leader. Sad but these are the times in which we live.
 
NealH said:
It's sad, sure, but it's a sign of the times, and I don't think it has _anything_ to do with Radio OR Records. Printed media as a whole is dying. It's being replaced by the Internet and cable news. R&R is not immune to that. There are online sites that offer up pretty much everything R&R delivered - for free.

I'd be willing to bet that within the next 10-20 years there will be no more Star-Telegram and no more Dallas Morning News, at least not in print. Heck the Startlegram is already on the endangered newspapers list. There's a possibility they won't even make it through 2009.
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That article in Time Magazine was totally bogus. It was created purely from speculation by a Time affiliate called 24/7 that did little, if any, research. http://www.star-telegram.com/242/story/1277277.html

The Star-Telegram is actually making money and isn't going anywhere...
http://www.star-telegram.com/212/story/1257299.html
 
Cmon Jeff do you honestly think that newspapers can continue to print yesterday's news today and be competitive in an increasingly online, on-demand world? No. It's just common sense. Sure the small-town daily or weekly doesn't have as much to worry about (yet), but with the internet rapidly becoming a major facet of everyone's lives (not just them thar city-folk), newspapers everywhere are in real trouble.

I haven't had a newspaper subscription in 6 years, and the only time I buy the newspaper is on Sunday so my wife can pillage the coupons. If I want today's news, now, I don't pick up a newspaper. I hit the internet.
 
@NealH: I am not saying print editions will be around forever I am merely pointing out that the S-T is not going out of business this year... Sure I get my news from the Internet as well... However, I still like to pick up the print version of the S-T and read it over coffee on Sunday. We get the Dallas paper at the office and that it is shocking how small it has become. A lot of AP stories and shared content from the S-T in sports and entertainment. It reminds me of a USA Today... and the monthtly subscription rate has jumped from $16/mo to $28.50/mo. :eek:
 
I think the demise of R&R has a LOT to do with the troubles in the radio and records business. It's not just another case of generic print media problems.
A publication like R&R has relied on ad dollars from the music business to influence local music directors. Well, guess what? Music is mostly being controlled nationally, so that pipeline of dollars has dried up. And with fewer independent decisions being made for jingles and syndicated specials, those ad dollars have dried up as well.
Take away a publication's advertising dollars and you take away the publication.
 
jeffdfw said:
@NealH: I am not saying print editions will be around forever I am merely pointing out that the S-T is not going out of business this year... Sure I get my news from the Internet as well... However, I still like to pick up the print version of the S-T and read it over coffee on Sunday. We get the Dallas paper at the office and that it is shocking how small it has become. A lot of AP stories and shared content from the S-T in sports and entertainment. It reminds me of a USA Today... and the monthtly subscription rate has jumped from $16/mo to $28.50/mo. :eek:
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I totally agree. Just love the Star-Telegram! I've found it's much more reader friendly. The ads in the DMN have become impossible to read around. No excuse for DMN losing as much money as it has/is. It is self-destructing.
 
I used to buy both Metroplex papers. I quit buying the DMN when it went o $1.00 for a week day paper. I have now stopped buying the Startlegram, since it has gone up in price. I noticed that the Ft Worth paper likes to run the same story 2 times in the same edition, one on the front page and a slightly different version in the local section. I know get my news online. I can't see where either paper will be around in print editions in a few years. Too expensive to print, too expensive to buy.
 
I figure since I'll be in (Tarrant County) I'll at least buy the ST every day. Didnt the DMN raise to $3/Copy weekdays? Thats more then the Chicago Tribune and Chicago Sun Times on Sunday.
 
Eye Lipson said:
I think the demise of R&R has a LOT to do with the troubles in the radio and records business. It's not just another case of generic print media problems.
A publication like R&R has relied on ad dollars from the music business to influence local music directors. Well, guess what? Music is mostly being controlled nationally, so that pipeline of dollars has dried up. And with fewer independent decisions being made for jingles and syndicated specials, those ad dollars have dried up as well.
Take away a publication's advertising dollars and you take away the publication.
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Exactly! Nice insight.
 
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