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OH NO, NOT AGAIN!!!!

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yonkstur

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I went out for a ride this afternoon and caught the tale end of the New York Buckleys on WARM. I know, I know, WARM again. But obviously, someone seems to be at least trying and paying attention up there. They have a website, here's the link:
http://citadelwilkes-barre.com/warm590/index.htm
and when they went into the recap, they played an old WARM jingle from the early 60s, maybe late 50s, "In the good old summertime, we listen to WARM". Someone is at least making the effort. If the suits at Citadel (by the way I've become a stockholder because I used to have Disney stock and it rolled over or something like that-my wife handles all that financial stuff, if left to my devices I'd be in a gutter somewhere) just dropped Junior and put WARM on 93.7, then that would be great. You'd have another FM Oldies station as well as Sports, (The Buckleys) on FM.

Yonkstur
 
True oldies channell ranks well in chicago and might do well here if given half a chance.Yeah right citadel put it on an am station with transmitter issues and leave nepa with two country stations.Are we the only market with two country stations?Both seem to be on the decline ratings wise.
 
ceaser said:
True oldies channell ranks well in chicago and might do well here if given half a chance.Yeah right citadel put it on an am station with transmitter issues and leave nepa with two country stations.Are we the only market with two country stations?Both seem to be on the decline ratings wise.
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Are you KIDDING... the only market with 2 country stations? Maybe you don't like country, if so it doesn't mean the rest of the world doesn't.. See who has the 2 biggest shows this summer at Montage.. it's not Breaking Ben, or any other act.. It'll be Kenny Chesney (current top show) and Toby Keith, mark it down. All formats have down books at times, doesn't mean the format is in a decline.

Here are some other backwards markets that for some strange reason have TWO country stations.. (and SOME - gasp - 3 or 4!) This is by no means all of the markets with 2 country stations...but you'll get the idea. YEE HAW!

Albuquerque
Atlanta
Augusta
Bakersfield
Baton Rouge
Birmingham
Boise
Charlotte
Cincinatti
Columbus
Dallas
Denver
Detroit
Harrisburg
Houston
Indianapolis
Jacksonville
Kansas City
Las Vegas
Mobile
Nashville
New Orleans
Oklahoma City
Pittsburgh
Richmond
Rochester
Salt Lake City
San Antonio
San Diego
Seattle
Spokane
St. Louis
Tampa
Wichita
 
Dang Raleigh-Durham has 3 FN I mean FM country stations just here, probably ten regional you could hear, I would say on a good day (if that's what makes it a good day for ya). One of the locals is changing to sports in a month, but still, there's 9 to take your pick from.
 
First of all i never recalled giving my personal taste in music on my message.Whether i like it or not doesn't matter,declining books are just that. Froggy is down several books now in a row.
 
raydeyo said:
Add Williamsport to the list of markets with two country stations!
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Despite the continued dominance of The Chrisman Show in morning drive on WSKB, WILQ still rules that market. It's been that way for over 30 years, probably closer to 35.
 
Dang Raleigh-Durham has 3 FN I mean FM country stations just here, probably ten regional you could hear, I would say on a good day (if that's what makes it a good day for ya). One of the locals is changing to sports in a month, but still, there's 9 to take your pick from.

Dang indeed!

Yonkstur
 
lifetimedj said:
...Maybe you don't like country...biggest shows this summer at Montage.. it's not Breaking Ben, or any other act.. It'll be Kenny Chesney (current top show)...
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Why do you think gay cowboys sell?

Far as the format, seems to be cyclical. I don't mean a "down book." I mean dead or dying until it's next revival, give it five years.
 
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Why do you think gay cowboys sell?

Far as the format, seems to be cyclical. I don't mean a "down book." I mean dead or dying until it's next revival, give it five years.
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I don't know... why don't you ask the thousands of hot girls who go to these country concerts? "gay cowboys"? Boy your dislike of country is painfully obvious when you have to resort to a false rumor about someone - it deserves no comment. "Give it five years"? til a "revival"? Have you seen how long country's been popular? Oh that's right, you haven't, because you don't like it.

Money talks. If country didn't a) draw more listeners than other formats, b) get advertisers results, and c) make the radio stations money.... the owners of these stations would switch formats in a heartbeat. And as you can see, that isn't happening.

I realize many NEPA posters would like to live in the past, that's your choice. I for one am happy I don't, and am quite happy listening to country music, rather than the same old "oldie" for the 1000th time. It must kill you guys that country has done so well in NEPA (and the U.S.) for years.
 
Coupla things...

Renee Zellwegger (sp?), explain that.

You don't have to be gay to have "gaydar". Take a look at Kenny Chesney. Take a look at the ambiguous song titles. Barefeet, puka shell, Key West, immaculately groomed, bald head. Personally, I don't care if he's straight, gay, bi, asexual, whatever. Ask yourself why it bothers you so much that someone thinks he might be gay.

NEPA behind the times? Right you are. Take about two seconds to research country formats. Plainly dying in urban markets and we are behind the times in regard to urban markets. Accounts for the down trend in country locally? Not dead. Just slipping. But we'll get there.

Finally, I don't hate any kind of music at all. Even modern country which is arguably the most slickly, consumer-minded, non-genuine music being produced today followed by the Kelly Clarkson genre. Garth Brooks was big until he had his fill. Garth never owned a cowboy hat until the day the record company signed him and took his cranial measurement. Modern country is nothing but a product of the focus group test-audience earnings maximizing record companies. Can you say "baa-baa-baa-a-a?" You like it, fine. Fact is like big cars, small cars, long skirts, short skirts, it comes and goes. And right now, it's going.
 
Take a look at the ambiguous song titles. Barefeet, puka shell, Key West, immaculately groomed, bald head
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Sounds like you're describing Jimmy Buffet to me. What's your point about being groomed and Key West? Ever been to Key West? It's paradise. We should all be so lucky as to live there.

Garth Brooks started wearing a cowboy hat because he lost his hair at an early age.

I don't know... why don't you ask the thousands of hot girls who go to these country concerts?
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I wasn't there, couldn't much care about Kenny Chesney, but from what some fans told me, the mountain was heavy with gorgeous women that night. Brooks used to draw the exact same type crowds - tens of thousands of females who adored him, despite the fact that he was a pudgy, short, bald guy.

I will totally agree with one thing; country music people are among the greediest on the planet. After spending time over the years in Nashville, you can't help but notice that everything is about money with these people, EVERYTHING. The good ole and down home routines are pure BS. It's the hypocrisy that bothers me. Rock/Pop/Grunge, etc. performers make no pretense about what they're chasing, and it's money. Country folk are in it because, "Well, gosh, my Mama used to love this type of music." Gakkkkk....
 
I don't care either way but to clarify, Key West, gorgeous though it may be, is a gay paradise and step into any bar to find that out. Ever been to all nude night? Have to be naked to get in? Men and women allowed, guess though which predilection dominates?

Garth Brooks used to wear a hat when he started to go bald. He stared wearing a Stetson when he signed a contract.

Gay or straight, cowboys draw women because of the fantasy. How many of them end up backstage with Chesney? Can't argue with the fact that he's the #1 country draw. But like Dean Martin's rock glass full of apple juice, it's not all what it appears.
 
Gay? Didn't some gay looking country guy marry that woman (Nicole Kidman) who was married to the so-called gay superstar Tom Cruise?

As per Garth, being in country when he broke, my view is this. Remember this is my opinion.
Garth wanted to be a pop/rock star.
His favorite band of all time was KISS.
His sound was great, but his image was no where near being "HIP" (he was too fat).
Pop labels denied him.
Somebody at a country label loved him.
He got picked up.
He brought fun music and exciting kiss-based shows to country.
It was Urban Cowboy all over again. This time though, THERE WAS NO CROSS OVER TO POP! The record company would not release "friends" to CHRs. With the advent of homogonized (sp?) programming, only the adventurous pop MD's played Garth. Otherwise "HOT COUNTRY" owned him.
His favorite musicians became "the two Georges" (Strait and Jones).
Country became the new top 40 pop for older, non urban women.
And has continued thru today.
Oh and Garth finally recorded a Kiss song (Hard Luck Woman on Kiss My A$$ tribute album)

Just my opinion
 
Nokmo True said:
Take about two seconds to research country formats. Plainly dying in urban markets and we are behind the times in regard to urban markets. Accounts for the down trend in country locally? Not dead. Just slipping. But we'll get there.
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I'd recommend that YOU research country. Go to www.allaboutcountry.com - their Arbitron section, market by market, shows the total country share for each market, 4-book trend. Go ahead, check it out, then tell me how country is "dying", in urban markets or otherwise (and what urban markets have to do with NEPA is beyond me anyway.) You WILL find SOME markets down (as you will when checking ANY format). Hardly enough to say things are down. And if things were so bad you wouldn't have:

#1 cd in sales last year - Rascal Flatts (sorry rock and hip-hop fans... needless to say no "oldies" collection is anywhere near the top)

#1 tour of last year - Kenny Chesney, and so far this year too. And Tim McGraw/Faith Hill very close to the top tour.

and it's the same deal here in NEPA. Hardly a hurtin' format.
 
Wanderlust...you have a handle on this.

Lifetimedj? Yeah, yeah, okay...jeez, I wonder what picture www.allaboutcountry.com is going to paint?

You're right, country is great, it's not a homogenized, focus group pile of treacle on the downturn. Rascal Flatts, #1, nothing like sticking a steel guitar into a pop band and giving them big belt buckles.

Kenny Chesney, obviously heterosexual.

Thanks for the enlightening update. I'm switching to country. So what if Johnny Cash used to hork up lungers that had more talent and soul than Kenny Chesney and Peter, Davey, Mickey and Mike from Rascal Flatts combined?!?

I DO like Carrie Underwood but it has to do with her face, hair, and legs long before it does "Jesus Take the Wheel."

Good luck.
 
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