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Ok Seattle....

So you are saying that 8% of the population probably make up the group of people who want to hear smooth jazz, real oldies, classical or AAA?

I'm saying about 8% of the population is willing to "go to great lengths," as you said. A lot more simply don't care. Fir most people, music isn't a big issue. If it's easy and free, that's great. If it's not, then that requires a decision. Sometimes they go to great lengths, and sometimes they don't. Most don't.
 
I'm saying about 8% of the population is willing to "go to great lengths," as you said. A lot more simply don't care. Fir most people, music isn't a big issue. If it's easy and free, that's great. If it's not, then that requires a decision. Sometimes they go to great lengths, and sometimes they don't. Most don't.

Unfortunately, you are absolutely right. In real life, I tend to complain a lot about the direction of modern music as well. I understand the need for CHR radio. Historically, we have always had multiple CHR radio stations serving our market (i.e, KJR-AM, KOL, KTAC, etc.). What stumps me, however, is the explosion of country music and the thinning of oldies and classic hits. I'm sure that most of us have never even considered the possibility of having a third country music station serve the Seattle market directly, along with the out-of-town signals that serve the suburbs. At the same time, radio stations like KJR-FM are now acting as a condensed jukebox of the rock, CHR and album stations that once served Seattle. Its sort of like going to Walmart... not particularly enjoyable, but it gets the job done. Not to mention, you're guaranteed to see someone in their pajamas when you shop at walmart (which correlates to hearing "In the Air Tonight" by Phil Collins).
 
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Simple: The country audience is the new rock. It's young and growing. Go to a country concert, and you'll see.

Its a shame that KKWF and KMPS have dropped the music that kept traditional country music fans remotely satisfied. Its all about the young people.....

I was almost forced to go to one at one time. If modern country music were a motorcar, it would be a Geo Metro.
 
Getting back to AC, to me it has always seemed that most of the songs on the chart are reasonable, but there's always that one that doesn't belong. Right now it's Katy Perry's Dark Horse, before that it was Blurred Lines, and before that it was DJ Got Us Fallin' In Love.
 
Simple: The country audience is the new rock. It's young and growing. Go to a country concert, and you'll see.

Another comment on the topic of country music; its a fact that modern country is the new Rock and CHR. From my own experiences (as I have said in this board multiple times), I see people belonging to the young demographic every day listening to country music. It seems like a pretty radical shift. I would be sitting in my high school parking lot and hear too many radios to count locked onto country music (either from radio or other mediums).
 
One horrible example - Florida Georgia Line. First, they had to have Nelly do a rap mix of "Cruise" for CHR/Adult Top 40. Then in their song "This is How We Roll" *THEY* rap! Can you believe how bad country music is nowadays? I would take Garth Brooks singing about "If Tomorrow Never Comes" over this BS!

-crainbebo
 
One horrible example - Florida Georgia Line. First, they had to have Nelly do a rap mix of "Cruise" for CHR/Adult Top 40. Then in their song "This is How We Roll" *THEY* rap! Can you believe how bad country music is nowadays? I would take Garth Brooks singing about "If Tomorrow Never Comes" over this BS!

-crainbebo
What is even more hilarious is the fact that young country listeners are completely oblivious to what "country music" really is. I knew a girl who contended that "FGL", Luke Bryan, Jason Aldean, and all of the rest of those people represent true country music. I tried to introduce her to real country musicians like Rick Trevino, Shanendoah, Sawyear Brown, Trish Yearwood (along with all of the real classics like Williams, Jennings Twitty, Cline, etc.) and she disliked all of it. She contended that such music (even with half of the musicians/groups I listened belonging to the 80's and 90's) are for old people because they don't make party music.

Its an unfortunate fact that today's youth have set the course for country music. Its all party songs, and songs about driving to rivers in a truck with some bimbo.

By the way, crainbebo, have you ever run across the new country song "Bottoms Up" by "Brantly Gilbert"? I contend that its made only to please angry high-schoolers.
 
One thing to take into consideration concerning modern country music, is that a lot of the modern country audience is more suburban and urban in lifestyle, especially in the larger metro areas.

The older country songs about shoeing horses and working on the farm aren't exactly going to connect as well with the young, urbanised country audience as a song about slashing your ex's leather seats and lighting their truck on fire after the keg party.
 
One thing to take into consideration concerning modern country music, is that a lot of the modern country audience is more suburban and urban in lifestyle, especially in the larger metro areas.

The older country songs about shoeing horses and working on the farm aren't exactly going to connect as well with the young, urbanised country audience as a song about slashing your ex's leather seats and lighting their truck on fire after the keg party.

People always talk about how country songs contain great and deep rooted messages about how to live life. However, I think the opposite is true when it comes to modern country. Defacing other peoples property, engaging in inappropriate activities in the bed of a pickup truck, and being a frequent heavy drinker do not speak as a positive testament to society.

There is the "country checklist"~
1. A country song must contain references to jacked up trucks.
2. A country song must contain references to tailgates.
3. A country song must contain references to moonlight.
4. A country song must contain references to a river (likely the dump-site for the local yokels).
5. A country song must contain references to an overly tan girl (who may or may not resemble a carrot).
6. A country song must contain mildly religious overtones.
7. A country song must have a reference to having your windows down.
8. A country song must have a reference to local wildlife (i.e, crickets).
9. A country song must have references to inappropriate activities that are disguised well enough to ensure that nobody becomes offended and complains.
 
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Ok I'm not sure whether you were being sarcastic or not on that checklist, but I love it! You've hit on just about everything I've heard in country music.
 
It's not Country music. It's Suburban Walmart music. I've stopped calling this crap "country" years ago.
 
How big of a percentage is the "demo"?

Today's modern country music is the #1 music format on radio today. It's being driven by music that's clearly not traditional. That's just the reality.

People in their 20s and 30s are looking for music they like, and for many, it seems to be called country. That's great, because from what I see, there's not much on OTA radio they like. So as long as they like it, radio will keep playing it.
 
I thought it was interesting to hear, 'you're not in the demo'. Critique is evidently like kryptonite to PD' and owners but then that is what brought KGO to barely a 1.0
 
I thought it was interesting to hear, 'you're not in the demo'. Critique is evidently like kryptonite to PD' and owners but then that is what brought KGO to barely a 1.0

I wasn't aware that KGO played country music. It might get better ratings if it did. Because the company that owns KGO is banking on country, and is spending millions on its country stations. However, they don't own any in Seattle.
 
Never mentioned country and KGO in my statement. Just the part about critique and how a once and mighty station is down....
 
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