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OKC Pirates??

Geez. Come on guys. If the pirate is not causing any interference, whats the big deal? I know what the law is but PLEEZ. There are far more important things in broadcasting than for Uncle Charlie to track down a couple of kids with a 2 watt xmitter.

There have been pirate stations since radio has been around. I had an unlicensed station while in High School on 670Khz around 63rd and Portland in the mid-60's when my family lived in OKC. I got interested in radio during that time.

Besides, be careful of what you say, you maybe working for these guys some day!
 
> Geez. Come on guys. If the pirate is not causing any
> interference, whats the big deal? I know what the law is but...

Nope...no "but." You can stop right there, and you already have your answer.


> Besides, be careful of what you say, you maybe working for
> these guys some day!

Ha....no, no chance of that. People on the third-grade level are never going to be over me!
 
Neutral:

I can say that when I was entering the Broadcastin business, nearly every one that I knew had at one time a pirate station. Many of these same folks went on to own "real" stations in Missouri, Oklahoma, Kansas, Colorado, etc. One went on to have leadership role with the NAB. Another became a major force in reshaping multiple mid-sized markets.

One doesn't know what the future holds so as Sean Connery has said "Never say never again".
 
>WHOA WHOA WHOA HOLD UP!!!!!
please.
major confusion going on here.
I think Todd failed to mention something here.
there are in deed TWO, yes 2, unlicensed transmitters operating
on 101.1fm, independently.
The first website listed here was ours, www.pirateaudio.org.
We are in NO relation to Todd Roberts or Hot fm...www.hot101fm.net.
Parasite 101.1 fm is not a station, its just a small xmitter, a peice of eqipiment
just like a drum machine or sequencer, to us.
We are a small collective of oklahoma artists and musicians who use the 101.1 fm frequency
as an outlet for our creativity.
We operate a small 10 watt fm transmitter by the Penn Square mall area.
Our signal can be picked up from nw 40th to nw 63rd, and from nw Shartel to nw Penn,
We are a very small signal and have been transmitting since last summer.
We have never been really too afraid of the big bad fcc til just recently because we have
been so unnoticeable to most but our fans and friends in the area.
We couldnt hide ourselves if we tried from internet searches so bother?
We know exactly how the fcc goes about there confiscations etc, and we are quite fine with that.
Someone has to complain or one of you vigelante types needs to tip them off about us,
or unless we are using substandard (im talking southenr engineered) that creates bleed or interferrance.
we are fully aware of the law, so please dont start that "irelevant - your going to jail" smart ass loop.
we know exactly the nature of the fcc and the whole corporate industry game, no one here wants or desires to work for a radio station, we merely want to play our music on a signal that isnt being used, what happens next, happens next, we are quite prepared to play the game.

a. They will issue a notice to the home of the xmitter, stating to cease operations in 30 days.
for us, thats game over, til then, we will continue.
b.When they arrive to take the candy jar, they will have a warrent for the location of the radio station, and will ask them where its at,well, since the coaxe cable is only long enough to run 5 feet from the tree with the antanae, our "station" is in a shoebox in someones backyard.
so if they bypass step one, scenario 2 isnt so bad.
c.Our transmitter was a gift, it was hand made by a tech who makes and sells kits, who will replace it when/if it goes.
d.An fcc raid will only make our next cd sales fly and we wil fully exploit it to our benefit..
e. Considering all the above, i doubt they will even issue a fine or confiscate non station equipment...if we cooperate.
so all was cool with our lil private fm radio world till....
2 weeks ago we noticed our transmissions were being wiped out by Todd's station.
Our signal when they broadcast is knocked down to a city block.
Let me state once again, we are not affiliated.
After some confusion, Todd and I made contact and we were in the midst of negotiating
the frequency between us when all this erupted on here.
Until Hotfm hit hard, we were operating rather openly but not in an agressive manner.
Our name itself is often associated with piracy, though it had more to do with throwing renegade concerts back in the 90's and not music/art piracy. We do not endorse theft of any sort, wether its frequency or
music, copyright is copyright, and being musicians, (we dont have radio djs or personalitys, just music or the occasion interview with select artists), we respect other artists rights.
There have been 2 other fm micropower broadcasters in the Oklahoma/Moore area and we have created a good support group of techs. We all pretty much felt we were community voices in our areas, local musicians and listeners heavily support us because they know our content is truly unique and original.
Each of us play a unique sound that generally does not get attention in the city.
there are now 4 including Hot fm.
Hotfm on the otherhand plays a more contemporary urban kj/the buzz/the spy/ style party jam sound, so that it does compete, though not on purpose i believe, with the other stations listeners,thus bring the heat of those supporters and backers.
We doe not think of ourselves as a " radio station".

Noun 1. radio station radio station - station for the production and transmission of radio broadcasts
station - a facility equipped with special equipment and personnel for a particular purpose; "he started looking for a gas station"; "the train pulled into the station"

we are neither of those.
we have a small transmitter we plug a mp3 player into, and leave next to a tree in one of our members yards.
that is no station.

Our main goal transmitting is to bump our music and our friends music in the inner city area.
The local stations wont play our music, top 40 radio is not open, and local shows that do exist are locked up, so this is our voice.
the whole "stations spend loads on finding out what the majority wants" is shite....and really meaningless when it concerns us.

We play 60% original content by our collective group, 30% local artists, and 10% outside artists who have submitted content.
The outside artists who have submitted are internationally recognised pioneers in the electronic music industry and give us unreleased material.
We represent a voice that does not get support from local radio and we offer electronic music
culture to oklahomans in the inner urban area.
So really, are we pirates or just citizens using there voice.
the law may be the law, but it takes rightous citizens to stand up and break unjust laws.
we believe in regulation, but not the way the fcc runs things and we will continue to do our thing until they come to take it from us.
 
Well, with that much "pirating" going on in the Oklahoma City market, why not join forces to file for an LPFM station? You'd need to go off the air for a while but a mutual filing might meet everybodies needs.

Let's face it, the commercial stations (that dominate a market which are mostly owned by the large corps) find serving the community is far from their(and their shareholders) minds.
 
> Neutral:
>
> I can say that when I was entering the Broadcastin business,
> nearly every one that I knew had at one time a pirate
> station. Many of these same folks went on to own "real"
> stations in Missouri, Oklahoma, Kansas, Colorado, etc. One
> went on to have leadership role with the NAB. Another became
> a major force in reshaping multiple mid-sized markets.
>
> One doesn't know what the future holds so as Sean Connery
> has said "Never say never again".
>

It's still a pirate station....
 
and honestly,
what does it matter to anyone on this board whether we are
legal or not?
i have yet to hear one reason why we are soooooo bad.
obnoxious, i may agree, but "bad"? aside from being unlicensed?
what makes us so "bad"? that some of you would want to turn us in?
 
> Let's face it, the commercial stations...find
> serving the community is far from their(and their
> shareholders) minds.

That's just not true. Period. Period.

Here's a question for you: When you could just say something true like "I don't like it," why do you people say truly ignorant things like the above? You leave the realm of your preferences and opinions and enter a world of objective truth...a world which can completely refute your statements.
 
> and honestly,
> what does it matter to anyone on this board whether we are
> legal or not?

I don't think it does. You came here, admitted you were a pirate, and you received the predictable response. That's your problem, not ours.

> i have yet to hear one reason why we are soooooo bad.
> obnoxious, i may agree, but "bad"? aside from being
> unlicensed?
> what makes us so "bad"? that some of you would want to turn
> us in?

I wouldn't turn you in. That would be a waste of my time, and I wouldn't get anything out of it anyway. And you already answered your own question on why running a pirate station is so bad, "aside from being unlicensed". Aside from being unlicensed, it's illegal. It isn't as bad a running a meth lab, but it is illegal. No debating that.
 
> and honestly,
> what does it matter to anyone on this board whether we are
> legal or not?

Criminals are bad and deserve punishment.

Seriously, your question is perhaps the dumbest ever.



> aside from being unlicensed? what makes us so "bad"? that
> some of you would want to turn us in?

Your grammar is a massive crime, too. Wow. How come all you guys have low IQ's and incredibly bad grammar in common????

Anyway, are you guys just trying to take a page from the illegal aliens' playbook? The left's use of euphemisms when using the long-used terms will get them caught trying to scam the American people and rejected?

"Unlicensed?" No...."pirate!" "Lawbreaking!" "Illegal!"

You get turned in and caught because you're criminals. You're breaking the law. What part of that don't you understand?
You...are...breaking...the...law...and...making...yourselves...criminals...because
...you..."feel"...like...it!
 
> Here's a question for you: When you could just say
> something true like "I don't like it," why do you people say
> truly ignorant things like the above? You leave the realm
> of your preferences and opinions and enter a world of
> objective truth...a world which can completely refute your
> statements.

Pravda...Truth. The difference between fact and truth: A fact is a fact but truth is one's perception of a fact. I believe your perception may be just as skewed as mine.

I am not going to have a quarrel with you. I had spent several of my early years in broadcasting in places like OKC, Dallas, Tulsa, Wichita Falls and Washington DC. I worked for KOMA, long gone KELI (1430-Tulsa), WFAA, all news WTOP, Arbitron. Plus I spent most of my career with ATT; much of it serving the broadcast industry. I was deeply involved in the development of DS-3 technology for the delivery of video programming and deeply involved in the application of 900 service as a promotional or programming tool for broadcasters along with several other applicaions. (I share this if only to say I'm not a rube just off the boat or a 25 year old jock working for a "rim shot" station.)

One thing is certain over the years, the course of the industry has changed since de-regulation.

I will give you one example of what I mean when I suggest that the "bottom line" seems to overwhelm serving the public: A long time former client recently left a senior position with Clear Channel. The differences were about "service" versus "profit maximization". The stations under his domain had attempted cyber jocking but didn't seem to be as effective as local production so he dropped it (except for an AM'er that couldn't serve the entire market but it was a local decision-not from San Antonio). Never mind that he successfully consolidated all stations into one facility, never mind he successfully consolidated support staff (like engineering) that served all facilities. At the same time, his numbers were meeting their mark. Well, one of the first things that occurred with the new leadership was the reintroduction of cyberjocking. Shareholder equity you know.

Instances like this and I want "community radio" to succeed if in only the limited way it can. I believe these 101 guys should get together and apply for a LP license.

To me, radio is more than determining that the largest and most sought after market segment to reach is the 25-49 age group and the best way to reach them is to either start programming AC or contemporary country formats. News? NEWS? Maybe during morning drive if we can build a "zoo" type format with the news guy being a little zany. Credibility? Only if it sells. (That's consultant advice and I won't charge you for it!)

I know some of this sounds a little cynical but over the years, it happens.

As I had said, I think it's probably how we define "service".

Have a good day, I hope you won't get fired in a format shuffle.

Bruce
 
> > Here's a question for you: When you could just say
> > something true like "I don't like it," why do you people
> say
> > truly ignorant things like the above? You leave the realm
>
> > of your preferences and opinions and enter a world of
> > objective truth...a world which can completely refute your
>
> > statements.
>
> Pravda...Truth. The difference between fact and truth: A
> fact is a fact but truth is one's perception of a fact. I
> believe your perception may be just as skewed as mine.
>
> I am not going to have a quarrel with you. I had spent
> several of my early years in broadcasting in places like
> OKC, Dallas, Tulsa, Wichita Falls and Washington DC. I
> worked for KOMA, long gone KELI (1430-Tulsa), WFAA, all news
> WTOP, Arbitron. Plus I spent most of my career with ATT;
> much of it serving the broadcast industry. I was deeply
> involved in the development of DS-3 technology for the
> delivery of video programming and deeply involved in the
> application of 900 service as a promotional or programming
> tool for broadcasters along with several other applicaions.
> (I share this if only to say I'm not a rube just off the
> boat or a 25 year old jock working for a "rim shot"
> station.)
>
> One thing is certain over the years, the course of the
> industry has changed since de-regulation.
>
> I will give you one example of what I mean when I suggest
> that the "bottom line" seems to overwhelm serving the
> public: A long time former client recently left a senior
> position with Clear Channel. The differences were about
> "service" versus "profit maximization". The stations under
> his domain had attempted cyber jocking but didn't seem to be
> as effective as local production so he dropped it (except
> for an AM'er that couldn't serve the entire market but it
> was a local decision-not from San Antonio). Never mind that
> he successfully consolidated all stations into one facility,
> never mind he successfully consolidated support staff (like
> engineering) that served all facilities. At the same time,
> his numbers were meeting their mark. Well, one of the first
> things that occurred with the new leadership was the
> reintroduction of cyberjocking. Shareholder equity you know.
>
>
> Instances like this and I want "community radio" to succeed
> if in only the limited way it can. I believe these 101 guys
> should get together and apply for a LP license.
>
> To me, radio is more than determining that the largest and
> most sought after market segment to reach is the 25-49 age
> group and the best way to reach them is to either start
> programming AC or contemporary country formats. News? NEWS?
> Maybe during morning drive if we can build a "zoo" type
> format with the news guy being a little zany. Credibility?
> Only if it sells. (That's consultant advice and I won't
> charge you for it!)
>
> I know some of this sounds a little cynical but over the
> years, it happens.
>
> As I had said, I think it's probably how we define
> "service".
>
> Have a good day, I hope you won't get fired in a format
> shuffle.
>
> Bruce
>
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