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Oldies 103.3: Dale and June

530am:

Oldies website says Dale Dorman and The Breakfast Club is on the air. Nope.

JJ Wright is in this morning. June Knight is in this morning. Mauzy Stafford is not in this morning (some other woman with traffic) but Mauzy's pic is still on the site. Mauzy tends to take the week off following a June Knight week off anyway.

No Christmas music (yet).
 
WMC2006 said:
No Christmas music (yet).

Around 6:20, JJ mentioned the Secret Santa promo later on around 7:40 and also said "And, no, we won't be playing Christmas music...yet." :D

Meanwhile, as I mentioned him earlier in the thread, Bruce Palmer is back on The Pike this morning but still no sign of Chris Engel who has completely disappeared. Adam Webster from Oldies 98-9 had the 6:25 news update for Bruce's show while, moments earlier, Jen Carter of WXLO's Zito and Jen had the news update for Adam's show. I don't know who is doing the news on WXLO.

I'm heading to work now. Goodbye. 8)
 
paul edwards said:
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I can see them putting Karen Blake in mornings...and maybe JJ in middays (although I think he would have to tone down his energy level)


I had to turn the volume down this morning.
 
I could actually see Chris Zito and Jen Carter on Oldies103.3.Think about it.The station is going to keep updating its library to include more 80s music.They both seem to be 40-ish give or take.They would have to ditch the pop culture talk but they're not really a cutsey type pairing.It's hard to compare who would take over due to Dale Dorman's act but I doubt they want a Dale Dorman act.There's a Jay Beau Jones connection with those two and sooner or later someone has to rescue them from Worcester and Citadel.Frankly the morning Boston competition is strong due to people on air with a history in the market so unless WODS is going to steal someone with a history in the market or move someone up to that shift there's no alternative but to bring in new faces that will be there for a longer run as the music changes.
 
Weird not having Dale on... I read another post that said he more of less went out with "Okay Gang..we...won't see you Monday" in a quiet, unceremonious voice(as if the security guards were standing right over him type feeling).Was anything else said? Wonder if a soundbyte will surface? Whatever.


Dale is a real pro, and has a long history with Boston radio. In fact not long ago they were pumping the fact it was "Home of Dale Dorman and his 40th year on the radio in Boston!". There was some mention of a large party in the Fall too, I guess not now. He grew more quiet and restrained in the last couple of years. In fact, in the morning they'd do 20 minutes of music and June Knight and you'd be hard pressed at first to realize he was even there. Weren't they like #1 Arbitron ratings in the last two years and then fell off precipitously(and underdog WZLX shot from the teens to #3 or 4 recently doing lots better whereas Oldies fell into the teens)? And I felt-having been an avid follower of Dale's, that he sometimes talked like a gun was at his head, almost scripted within the last two years. In the start I remember him having this hilarious banter with Paula Street about her visit to the town of "Athol" Mass, with him going "Wha? Say that again Paula? Without the lisp?..etc etc". That's Dale's quickness and wit he was known for. All that just kind of stopped in the last two years.

Also, remember Dale was out for the count with some undisclosed condition for a chunk of summer in July and August. They juggled Blake, Wright and others in the morning just saying "Dale is out and will be back when he's feeling better, which will be real soon"(which went on for about five weeks or so)

This morning it was, as noted JJ Wright and June Knight("Wright and Knight! Mornings!"?) and JJ signed off (and you could tell something was up and they grinned all the way through it) going "We'll see you tommorrow. I guess?" and trailed off with his trademarked chortle. June was talking through her teeth and acting very forced. Being "happy-while-pissed-off sound". No mention at all of Dale. Paula Street comes on and again, missing that usual handover from Dale.

The station is too repetitive and some former favorite standards are just not played anymore. One thing that rankled me, alot was during one of their "Top 500" countdowns, they played the song "Proud to Be An American" by Lee Greenwood. VERY shmaltzy in my own opinion, I got tired of it fast but I could see it's appeal. And next,oddly, was John Lennon's "Give Peace a Chance". The weekender DJ, just CUT it off after maybe 5 or 6 seconds and said quietly "That was John Lennon at number 61" and didn't even mention the name of the song. It *seemed* so damn PC it was scary. I emailed them about it and was told it was a "mistake". Hmmmm. In fact, they did it twice because it was one of those count A-Z one way and then the other way Z-A back.

Just stuff I've noticed. It amazes me how even a legend can be just, persona non grata. No goodbyes, no nothin'.

Oh, they're promoting "11 weeks until Xmas music!". So do the calendar math. Oooooh boy.
 
radioman1818
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BRING BACK JOHN POTTER!!!

(Not)

Wait.. Who?

Actually if you want to go back and look at the monthly trends for the time Potter was at Oldies you'll find that his was the last morning show on WODS to beat L&W in the ratings! Potter's plug was pulled because the PD wanted to hire his best friends and bring them up from Providence so he did.
 
Bakers_Bookstore said:
Actually if you want to go back and look at the monthly trends for the time Potter was at Oldies you'll find that his was the last morning show on WODS to beat L&W in the ratings!

Is this claim true? Anyone want to go back and look at the numbers to verify?

When was John Potter let go?

Bakers_Bookstore said:
Potter's plug was pulled because...

Potter's plug was pulled because he was bad.....and they thought they could easily do better. (It wasn't that easy.)

Bakers_Bookstore said:
...because the PD wanted to hire his best friends and bring them up from Providence so he did.

Was that Paul Perry?

How were his ratings?
 
zillasound said:
Dale is a real pro, and has a long history with Boston radio. In fact not long ago they were pumping the fact it was "Home of Dale Dorman and his 40th year on the radio in Boston!". He grew more quiet and restrained in the last couple of years. In fact, in the morning they'd do 20 minutes of music and June Knight and you'd be hard pressed at first to realize he was even there. Weren't they like #1 Arbitron ratings in the last two years and then fell off precipitously (and underdog WZLX shot from the teens to #3 or 4 recently doing lots better whereas Oldies fell into the teens)?

103.3 was never #1, especially not in the mornings. A couple of times a few years ago, WODS beat WMJX to be the #1 "adult music station" in Boston 12+, but they weren't #1 in the mornings. Lorin & Wally on WROR have blown away WODS (and also WZLX) in morning drive from long before Dale was hired five years ago.

WZLX hasn't seen ratings within the top five in ages. I'm sure it bills well for them, but they're generally below WROR and (co-owned) WODS.
 
a mea-culpa to the powers-that-be at WODS ...

my earlier post about Harry Nelson was errant. Harry did offer a month's notice, but was more than graciously treated by WODS in this regard, and was welcomed to work out his remaining shifts, but was told that covering those shifts wouldn't be a problem.

Harry does have a venture or two that require his attention, and his juggling of airshifts and these other responsibilities got to the point where he needed to focus on the primary (other venture) and had to step away from the fun stuff (airshifts).

my hopes are that wheverever the pieces fall in regards to WODS that it remains a Boston radio landmark. roast 'em, toast 'em and post 'em!
 
zillasound said:
Dale is a real pro, and has a long history with Boston radio. In fact not long ago they were pumping the fact it was "Home of Dale Dorman and his 40th year on the radio in Boston!". There was some mention of a large party in the Fall too, I guess not now. He grew more quiet and restrained in the last couple of years. In fact, in the morning they'd do 20 minutes of music and June Knight and you'd be hard pressed at first to realize he was even there.
(snip)
That's Dale's quickness and wit he was known for. All that just kind of stopped in the last two years.

Also, remember Dale was out for the count with some undisclosed condition for a chunk of summer in July and August. They juggled Blake, Wright and others in the morning just saying "Dale is out and will be back when he's feeling better, which will be real soon"(which went on for about five weeks or so)


Fybush.com reports that he left of his own accord. http://www.fybush.com/nerw.html
If as you say, he sounded like he was losing interest in playing radio anymore, maybe that was indeed the case. 40-odd years behind the mic is a long time, and if he's also having health problems maybe he thought it best to hang up the old headphones and call it a career.
 
If he left completely on his own, wouldn't he have been given more of a proper send off though? There was no notice that I know of that Friday was going to be his final show, until his final break.
 
Oldbones said:
zillasound said:
Dale is a real pro, and has a long history with Boston radio. In fact not long ago they were pumping the fact it was "Home of Dale Dorman and his 40th year on the radio in Boston!". There was some mention of a large party in the Fall too, I guess not now. He grew more quiet and restrained in the last couple of years. In fact, in the morning they'd do 20 minutes of music and June Knight and you'd be hard pressed at first to realize he was even there.
(snip)
That's Dale's quickness and wit he was known for. All that just kind of stopped in the last two years.

Also, remember Dale was out for the count with some undisclosed condition for a chunk of summer in July and August. They juggled Blake, Wright and others in the morning just saying "Dale is out and will be back when he's feeling better, which will be real soon"(which went on for about five weeks or so)


Fybush.com reports that he left of his own accord. http://www.fybush.com/nerw.html
If as you say, he sounded like he was losing interest in playing radio anymore, maybe that was indeed the case. 40-odd years behind the mic is a long time, and if he's also having health problems maybe he thought it best to hang up the old headphones and call it a career.

AllAccess is saying that he'll still be on Saturday mornings. Sounds like a case of someone cutting down on the everyday grind and not going past the expiration date. Not a bad way to exit gracefully.

I didn't hear JJ today but I am sure he was great. He's a true pro. If I was programming Oldies, I'd add more music and less chatter to mornings. WROR has L&W who can't stop yakking. WODS should do the opposite by being more music-focused.
 
jlehmann said:
If he left completely on his own, wouldn't he have been given more of a proper send off though? There was no notice that I know of that Friday was going to be his final show, until his final break.

There's no proper send off for semi-retirement. He'll still be on Saturdays.
 
Boston Radio Watch reports on the cuts by Metro Networks last Friday and the cuts included WODS's Mauzy Stafford so that's why she wasnt there this morning. Mauzy, however, remains on the WODS website. She usually does her own Sunday afternoon show (leading into Lost 45's) although she wasn't on yesterday. I would assume, with her own show, that she was also employed by WODS so, even though Metro cut her, she may still be employed at Oldies.
 
Quote from: Lou Bertoni
When was John Potter let go?


Quote from: Bakers_Bookstore on Today at 12:14:16 pm

Potter's plug was pulled because...

Potter's plug was pulled because he was bad.....and they thought they could easily do better. (It wasn't that easy.)


Quote from: Bakers_Bookstore on Today at 12:14:16 pm

...because the PD wanted to hire his best friends and bring them up from Providence so he did.


Was that Paul Perry?

How were his ratings?

I didn't realize that you were privy to decision making back then. Of course if you were privy to those decisions you would know that indeed it was Paul Perry and it was at the end of '98. Potter had been there about a year. To my knowledge Perry never drew the ratings Potter did.
 
Bakers_Bookstore said:
I didn't realize that you were privy to decision making back then.

I didn't have to be privvy to the decision making. I was privvy to listening to him...and the fact that he was showing up in our research...and not in a positive light.

If he was showing up in our research...then I assume he was shoing up in CBS' research too.

Bakers_Bookstore said:
...you would know that indeed it was Paul Perry and it was at the end of '98. Potter had been there about a year.

I did say Paul Perry. However, I knew nothing about the "PD's best friend".

Bakers_Bookstore said:
To my knowledge Perry never drew the ratings Potter did.

So you've stated. I don't know that to be true.
 
DJbobo said:
I didn't hear JJ today but I am sure he was great. He's a true pro. If I was programming Oldies, I'd add more music and less chatter to mornings. WROR has L&W who can't stop yakking. WODS should do the opposite by being more music-focused.

That's what they tried to do. When Dale was hired in 2003, he promoted that the show was going to be more music-focused (than L&W), and it DID play a lot more music per hour than L&W on WROR.

But, it didn't work (well enough). That demographic in Boston still seems to go for L&W's gags on WROR after all these years.
 
Here's another wild thought.Could Ed McMann possibly be a candidate for mornings at WODS?He is voicetracking a few stations including B101 in Providence and long ago someone posted that it's a matter of survival along with any other ventures he has.Personally I never considered him anything more than a good set of pipes who played his career cards the right way but he is a known name in Boston.He's not known for bits and most of his talk is music and artist related but it may be the direction the station wants to go.If nothing else it would get him out of Providence but then again B101 would just replace him with another out-of-town voicetracker anyway.
 
John Potter did indeed beat L & W in the ratings, which is why I remember it as a surprise to us when he was let go. PD John Morgan also fired morning news guy Dave Faneuf, and that may also account for the ratings drop after they left.
I don’t doubt the research was negative when he started, Lou. He replaced 9-year morning man Austin of Boston so it was a bit of a shock to the diehards, but my parents grew to love Potter’s show. Besides all that, he was a super nice guy.
 
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