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IIRC Citadel made some money with "True Oldies" on 106.7 too. IMHO True Oldies on 106.7 was most likely the only intelligent move Citadel did in the market after they took County off 106.7 which I thought was a mistake. No wonder Citadel went bankrupt, besides paying too much for the old ABC radio division.
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Electric bill probably cheap compared to...
the tower rent. They're down there on Richland's Tower. Now those are professional vertical real estate slumlords.
I bet they're paying between $5K and $10K a month.
Gone are the days of Clyde Shepards Discount TV Tower Rental.
"Son, how about $100 a month. Contract? We don't need no contract. We just shake hands around here."
Clyde was a very informal kind of guy.
the tower rent. They're down there on Richland's Tower. Now those are professional vertical real estate slumlords.
I bet they're paying between $5K and $10K a month.
Gone are the days of Clyde Shepards Discount TV Tower Rental.
"Son, how about $100 a month. Contract? We don't need no contract. We just shake hands around here."
Clyde was a very informal kind of guy.
Wasn't "Shepard's tower" the three pronged "candelabra" painted tower that you could see off of I 85 that use to have the old analogue 46 and 36 plus several FM's on it?
Yes, it was...and is. By the way, does anyone know if CC completed the move of 94.9 and 96.1 from the Shepards Tower to the Richland tower?
And don't forget channel 30 had a "stick" up there at one time too.
We used to have a 440MHz amateur radio repeater using channel 30's old transmission line, and the former transmitter supervisor at WATL-TV (who was a ham) had the tower crew mount an antenna for it on the candelabra. This was back in 1995/1996. It was up until the transmission line was needed for new DTV antennas.
That site kicks butt. I remember using a 2 watt portable radio from just about anywhere in the metro area from Kennesaw to Lilburn to south of Jonesboro and could access that repeater. Mobile radios could ping it from as far away as Tuscalosa, AL. We regularly had users in Jasper and Cartersville on the repeater. Sites like this are hard to come by these days.
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Old tower was taller than the new one.
That's important in this hilly terrain. I was surprised that the new one wasn't built as high or EVEN higher than the old one.
But there were probably some new construction codes in effect that the old one didn't have to meet.
I'm 10 miles out and I occasionally lose it when turning thru certain intersections.
That's important in this hilly terrain. I was surprised that the new one wasn't built as high or EVEN higher than the old one.
But there were probably some new construction codes in effect that the old one didn't have to meet.
I'm 10 miles out and I occasionally lose it when turning thru certain intersections.
Is the Shepard tower the one located at 1800 Briarcliff Road?
yes..It is the one with 3 candelabras.
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Does anybody know...
if they're running RDS?
I can't get them on my ADS Cadet tuner card on my PC at all.
Probably too much clock noise from the computer.
if they're running RDS?
I can't get them on my ADS Cadet tuner card on my PC at all.
Probably too much clock noise from the computer.
I could not get a RDS last week on either my Equinox or the company's Flex. Cumulus does maximizes their stations technically so RDS could come sometime in the future.
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kf4rca
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Have you noticed...
that TOC doesn't sound as distorted as when it was on 106.7?
Probably wouldn't notice it on a portable radio.
I thought it was in the compression used in the satellite transmission.
But now I think they just might have been hitting the STL a little too hard.
that TOC doesn't sound as distorted as when it was on 106.7?
Probably wouldn't notice it on a portable radio.
I thought it was in the compression used in the satellite transmission.
But now I think they just might have been hitting the STL a little too hard.
I am not an engineer but I have "covered" for some while they take a vacation. I have gotten a couple of stations back on the air after lightning has "visited" and the engineer was tied up at another station. I have been out of the business for many years so I am technically "behind" at least a decade so some of the active engineers please correct me if I am wrong.
IIRC there were issues with the 106.7 STL a couple of years ago. Citadel skimped or technical repairs to "save" money. It didn't work they went bankrupt anyways. There is a rumor that the audio adjustments for Cumulus are "corporate". Usually the local engineer can't make adjustments, they are "locked". A lot of the times the translators that run a HD channel will sound very good, because first the HD processing from the parent station will "level" out the audio then the translator's audio processing can really max the out audio not having to worry about any great audio peaks or valleys. I have always wondered why the primary signal "HD1" was never used to feed the analog processing. That would eliminate the "time delay circuit" that is required to the HD and analog "synced" up. Of course when the HD is down you would use the regular analog.
Both the old Shepard's and newer Richland are on that property.
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For a long time the Shepard tower was the only candlabra in town.
Candlabras have some technical problems besides the mechanical problem of being top heavy.
It was discovered after the first one was built in Baltimore in '58 that the adjacent antennas created reflection problems in the field.
This was discussed in technical journals of the time.
That was in B&W days. Nonetheless they proliferated into the color era.
Digital signals have the advantage of forward error correction in the transmission which should minimize the problem of reflections.
Candlabras have some technical problems besides the mechanical problem of being top heavy.
It was discovered after the first one was built in Baltimore in '58 that the adjacent antennas created reflection problems in the field.
This was discussed in technical journals of the time.
That was in B&W days. Nonetheless they proliferated into the color era.
Digital signals have the advantage of forward error correction in the transmission which should minimize the problem of reflections.
I've seen it written that Baltimore's candelabra tower in 1958 was the first, but I believe it was actually the second. I've also read in two different places that in 1954, when Dallas and Ft. Worth were about to become one market, WFAA-TV and KRLD-TV both set their sites on the same land on Cedar Hill. They fought to get the same spot, and the resolution was to build one tower with both of them on it in a candelabra arrangement.
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Its possible to mount two or more antennas without a candlabra...
using a method called "stacking". This works especially well if the upper antenna is a UHF or even a high VHF mounted on top of a low VHF. (The higher channel antennas are smaller than lower channel antennas.)
Alternatively, additional antennas (panel style) can be mounted around the periphery of the tower. In this case ,phasing is done externally rather than within the antenna itself.
As I recall, the first antenna installation ('38 or so) on the Empire State building was 4 panel antennas mounted on each of the four sides. Might even still be there.
using a method called "stacking". This works especially well if the upper antenna is a UHF or even a high VHF mounted on top of a low VHF. (The higher channel antennas are smaller than lower channel antennas.)
Alternatively, additional antennas (panel style) can be mounted around the periphery of the tower. In this case ,phasing is done externally rather than within the antenna itself.
As I recall, the first antenna installation ('38 or so) on the Empire State building was 4 panel antennas mounted on each of the four sides. Might even still be there.
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