Oldies on 1330?

[Schroedingers Cat]

I add in "You Light Up My Life" and "Feelings".

I've always been a button pusher.

It annoys my passengers a lot in the car. That and DXing. From the separate oscillator and antenna presets, to Delco's mechanical ones, to electronic digital memories. My second favorite radio feature, after signal strength indicators. If I don't like a song, it's on to the next preset. I rarely leave a song on for long that I don't care for. So I don't get tired of many, I just don't listen.

 

[Schroedingers Cat]

On a Boogie Check, John fawned over a caller once who agreed with him, and called her "Debby Baboon".

 

[boombox4]

You Light Up My Life was a good song, actually. It was probably a hit mostly among women, though.

Definitely not my cup of tea, naturally.

 

[Schroedingers Cat]

You Light Up My Life was a good song, actually. It was probably a hit mostly among women, though.

Definitely not my cup of tea, naturally.

I liked the Retro aspect of the Warner/Curb and other Curb Labels, revitalizing previously established artist careers, etc. I also like early Rhino compilations. Warner has them all over the road now though, kind of like the RRHOF. Eminem in the RRHOF????

 

[cyberdad]

I add in "You Light Up My Life" and "Feelings".

I actually thought about "Light Up". "Feelings" hadn't crossed my mind, but probably should have. As well as "Honey". One Saturday night in college radio, a couple of our guys (who had obviously been partying) decided to hold an on-air seance for Honey. ... I wish had taped it!

 

[radioman148]

I actually thought about "Light Up". "Feelings" hadn't crossed my mind, but probably should have. As well as "Honey". One Saturday night in college radio, a couple of our guys (who had obviously been partying) decided to hold an on-air seance for Honey. ... I wish had taped it!

"Honey" is DEFINITELY near the top of my dislike list. How did that record ever get so popular. YIKES!

 

[cyberdad]

I actually thought about "Light Up". "Feelings" hadn't crossed my mind, but probably should have. As well as "Honey". One Saturday night in college radio, a couple of our guys (who had obviously been partying) decided to hold an on-air seance for Honey. ... I wish had taped it!

Back on topic....

I woke up around 2:00an CDT this morning and dialed up 1330. Almost as dead as it had been yesterday morning, but I did hear a bunch of faint signals sounding like a really weak graveyard channel mix. Went back to sleep, reawoke a little more than two hours later, and 1330 had sprung to life! First I was hearing CBS sports with Amy Lawrence fading in and out but on top more often than not. I never did get a positive ID, but my guess was WTRX from Flint, MI. After about 15 minutes of that, KPTY from Waterloo, IA took over the channel with a stronger signal than WTRX. Country music, and I did get a KPTY positive ID. Both are 5kw days. KPTY iis also 5kw nights, while WTRX is 1kw. Neither pattern exactly favors my location, but WPTY does have a smaller lobe aimed in my general direction. I'm unable to access my distance calculating website at the moment, But I'll estimate each station at between 150-200 miles. Radio was the C. Crane Skywave (barefoot).

Finally, the intriguing moment came before KPTY took over the channel. Another song fragment, and another oldie. "Up on the Roof: by the Drifters. In the clear forr about 30 seconds, then completely vanished. I don't think that would have fit the CJYM playlist. So the search for the mystery station on 1330 continues.....and I'll be spending more time trying to unravel it.

 

[Schroedingers Cat]

WTRX has reportedly been having problems with their phasor, and may be on nondirectional STA at times. WFIN 1330 Findlay also has some of the CBS Sports Programming, and is 1000 watts Day and 79 watts Night nondirectional. It's always been confusing with WTRX and WFNN having similar formats, from Top 40 as WRIE in the 1960s, and Fox Sports now as WFNN.

 

[cyberdad]

WTRX has reportedly been having problems with their phasor, and may be on nondirectional STA at times. WFIN 1330 Findlay also has some of the CBS Sports Programming, and is 1000 watts Day and 79 watts Night nondirectional. It's always been confusing with WTRX and WFNN having similar formats, from Top 40 as WRIE in the 1960s, and Fox Sports now as WFNN.

I heard WTRX dahere a few times back in the '60s. Back when the former WTAQ/1300 in La Grange, IL was a daytimer (IIRC). So that's why WTRX would be my first guess, if I'm hearing CBS sports. As for WFIN....that's on sort of a "secondary want list for me". But I've never heard it.

 

[Schroedingers Cat]

I tried numerous times in the NWC/ORD area to hear WTRX 1330 over the years, when WEAW was a Daytimer, and never did. WILS 1320 at 1 kW Night then, and WKMI 1360 at 1 kW Night came in easily and unexpectedly. Only recently, I found out that I should have been trying for WAMM/WFLT 1420, which I most likely heard Pre Sunset at least once but dismissed because it was just 500 watts, but more than the DA equivalent of 1000 watts in that direction. I had just heard WPON 1460 identify when 1000 watts nondirectional Days, Pre Sunset, before reducing to 500 watts DA. WBBM was overwhelming there, so I couldn't believe when someone who lived near U of I Circle Campus listened to Minor League Local Sports PBP fairly regularly on WSGW 790.

 

[cyberdad]

I tried numerous times in the NWC/ORD area to hear WTRX 1330 over the years, when WEAW was a Daytimer, and never did. WILS 1320 at 1 kW Night then, and WKMI 1360 at 1 kW Night came in easily and unexpectedly. Only recently, I found out that I should have been trying for WAMM/WFLT 1420, which I most likely heard Pre Sunset at least once but dismissed because it was just 500 watts, but more than the DA equivalent of 1000 watts in that direction. I had just heard WPON 1460 identify when 1000 watts nondirectional Days, Pre Sunset, before reducing to 500 watts DA. WBBM was overwhelming there, so I couldn't believe when someone who lived near U of I Circle Campus listened to Minor League Local Sports PBP fairly regularly on WSGW 790.

I was back at it on 1330 early this morning (about an hour before local sunrise). Conditions were pretty decent. WTRX was mostly on top, but quite fade-prone. 1kw non-directional due to antenna issues seems plausible, but who knows. KPTY also surfaced a couple of times, but not as strong as WTRX nor as strong as when it barreled in two nights previous. I also heard a faint signal a few times with some type of music that I was unable to identify. Could have been CJYM, but I doubt it

As for the others, WILS used to be common in the 60s. Not so much anymore, except around sunrise. Have never heard WKMI here. Since semi-local WLBK (DeKalb, IL) started nighttime operations, they're on top of 1360 locally night...albeit with a signal that's only fair at best. I've Never heard WAMM/WFLT or (although, I've driven by their TX site). Also never heard WPON around here. 1460 has always usuqlly been KXNO on top. As you may have heard, KXNO is trying to get it's original KSO call letters back.....so they can move them over to what's now KRNT on 1350 (which is co-owned). So far, the FCC seems to be having none of it.

 

[Schroedingers Cat]

I've Never heard WAMM/WFLT or (although, I've driven by their TX site).

When the station signed on, the Offices were Downtown but the Studios were in a small trailer at the transmitter site. I remember that trailer. None other than Casey Kasem told me he worked at WAMM in the trailer Studio on Averill Ave. in 1957, which after vocal play acting and news roles at WDET at Wayne State university, he regarded WAMM as his first Top 40 gig. Later that same year, he also worked at WJBK, in the same time slot as the "Jack The Bellboy" DJs, but didn't used the moniker. Some say he still used Kemal Kasem on his first few shifts at WAMM, after which he adopted his nickname Casey on the air.

 

[joebtsflk1]

1460 has always usuqlly been KXNO on top. As you may have heard, KXNO is trying to get it's original KSO call letters back.....so they can move them over to what's now KRNT on 1350 (which is co-owned). So far, the FCC seems to be having none of it.

I worked a few years in Des Moines, and the ownership chain of KXNO and KRNT is more confusing than I would have guessed. In short, Saga currently owns KRNT. iHeart currently owns KXNO. The last time KRNT and KXNO were co-owned was back in the 1940s when both were owned by the Cowles family who also owned the Des Moines Register and Tribune, the R 'n T in KRNT.

Went to the FCC History Cards to find out more, and will post that over on the KRNT-KSO thread here: https://www.radiodiscussions.com/th...-three-letter-call-sign-in-des-moines.749837/

 

[Schroedingers Cat]

Back when I heard WPON in the NWC/ORD area in the 1960s, it was 1000 watts nondirectional Days, with minimum efficiency. Around 1985, WPON 1460 moved their TL and went to a DA in the Daytime, with the equivalent of about 500 watts. They moved again, and is now less than the equivalent of 250 watts in that direction in the Daytime. The Night DA was/is much less than that. That's why you haven't heard it much lately. I used to hear KSO 1460 in SE Michigan in the 1960s and 1970s during the experimental period, probably a nondirectional DX test, when local WKMF 1470 signed off on Sunday and Monday mornings. It was pretty solid and pretty much always there when WKMF signed off. The late Peter Cavanaugh, author of "Local DJ", was at KSO for a short time, and they did nondirectional DX tests on co owned WTAC 600 to see if he could hear it during WMT 600 silent periods. He did hear it near Des Moines, and the engineers at WTAC also heard KSO in those silent periods.

 

[Schroedingers Cat]

KSO belongs on 1460. That should be possible. There was a very complicated series of changes, involving both FMs and AMs to get the WHK call letters on 1220, and then back to 1420. Never knew why they did that.

 

[cyberdad]

KSO belongs on 1460. That should be possible. There was a very complicated series of changes, involving both FMs and AMs to get the WHK call letters on 1220, and then back to 1420. Never knew why they did that.

Agree, and personally, I think that it would be very cool. But, after 33 years, as a practical matter, I think there'd have to be a very good branding reason for doing that.

 

[Schroedingers Cat]

When they were contemplating changing the call letters of 1050 when it became ESPN, it was suggested that they return to WHN. I guess it was debated, but turned down, in favor of WEPN, which is meaningless unless it became "1050 The Weapon", an all military manufacturers lobbying format. Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Raytheon, General Dynamics, and the rest could all "hawk" their wares on the air.

If old call letters meant anything anymore, WOV, WOW, and others should return to their rightful stations.

 

[cyberdad]

If old call letters meant anything anymore, WOV, WOW, and others should return to their rightful stations.

I'm pretty sure those WOV call letters once resided in Chicago, But if that's indeed true, I have no idea where they were on the dial nor what the time frame was (other than a long time ago).

 

[Schroedingers Cat]

Bartell Broadcasting changed WOV 1280 NYC to WADO in 1959. The closest to Chicago that they owned was WOKY. They also owned KCBQ and WDRQ, that were part of a bunch of stations who called themselves "Q". "The Motor City has a brand new Q". They would play "Maggie May" and splice in three more Qs, so it said, "or steal my daddy's cue (Q) Q Q Q and make a living out of playing pool". And here's a "Q Tip"...

 

[cyberdad]

Bartell Broadcasting changed WOV 1280 NYC to WADO in 1959. The closest to Chicago that they owned was WOKY. They also owned KCBQ and WDRQ, that were part of a bunch of stations who called themselves "Q". "The Motor City has a brand new Q". They would play "Maggie May" and 'inm thinking three more Qs, so it said, "or steal my daddy's cue (Q) Q Q Q and make a living out of playing pool". And here's a "Q Tip"...

The WOV that I'm thinking of as possibly being in Chicago would have been long before 1959. As for the "Q" branding, I remember WHBQ in Memphis using "56Q" for a brief time in the mid 70s". WOKY had/has call letters that are great branding in and of themselves. They branded themselves with either "WOKY in Milwaukee" or "Fun Lovin' WOKY" pronounced as the last two syllables of "Milwaukee". I understand that the Bartell family had something of a tough bunch to work for. But they sure did a great job with WOKY, which doesn't exactly have a great signal.