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OldiesCat
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Cumulus and their Oldies WRQQ PD part ways. No surprise. New PD is from Myrtle Beach, SC, Al Brock.
This should be a big improvement.
This should be a big improvement.
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digitaldevil23
Guest
> Cumulus and their Oldies WRQQ PD part ways. No surprise.
> New PD is from Myrtle Beach, SC, Al Brock.
>
> This should be a big improvement.
>
Do you have any info on Mr. Brock or know his history?
-A<P ID="signature">______________
Album 88 - 88.5FM
Psychobilly Freakout Mondays from 8-10pm</P>
> New PD is from Myrtle Beach, SC, Al Brock.
>
> This should be a big improvement.
>
Do you have any info on Mr. Brock or know his history?
-A<P ID="signature">______________
Album 88 - 88.5FM
Psychobilly Freakout Mondays from 8-10pm</P>
> > Cumulus and their Oldies WRQQ PD part ways. No surprise.
>
> > New PD is from Myrtle Beach, SC, Al Brock.
> >
> > This should be a big improvement.
> >
>
> Do you have any info on Mr. Brock or know his history?
>
> -A
>
Al used to be PD at KLOU in St.Louis. I hear good things about him
>
> > New PD is from Myrtle Beach, SC, Al Brock.
> >
> > This should be a big improvement.
> >
>
> Do you have any info on Mr. Brock or know his history?
>
> -A
>
Al used to be PD at KLOU in St.Louis. I hear good things about him
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OttoM
Guest
> > > Cumulus and their Oldies WRQQ PD part ways. No
> surprise.
> >
> > > New PD is from Myrtle Beach, SC, Al Brock.
> > >
> > > This should be a big improvement.
> > >
> >
> > Do you have any info on Mr. Brock or know his history?
> >
> > -A
> >
> Al used to be PD at KLOU in St.Louis. I hear good things
> about him
>
He's been at the former WKLR/Indy, WKLX/Rochester, and WWKL/Harrisburg, among other places. 97.1 will be in good hands.
> surprise.
> >
> > > New PD is from Myrtle Beach, SC, Al Brock.
> > >
> > > This should be a big improvement.
> > >
> >
> > Do you have any info on Mr. Brock or know his history?
> >
> > -A
> >
> Al used to be PD at KLOU in St.Louis. I hear good things
> about him
>
He's been at the former WKLR/Indy, WKLX/Rochester, and WWKL/Harrisburg, among other places. 97.1 will be in good hands.
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OldiesCat
Guest
Oldies PD
Really good guy- adequate programmer. A marked improvement.
> > Al used to be PD at KLOU in St.Louis. I hear good things
> > about him
> >
>
> He's been at the former WKLR/Indy, WKLX/Rochester, and
> WWKL/Harrisburg, among other places. 97.1 will be in good
> hands.
>
Really good guy- adequate programmer. A marked improvement.
> > Al used to be PD at KLOU in St.Louis. I hear good things
> > about him
> >
>
> He's been at the former WKLR/Indy, WKLX/Rochester, and
> WWKL/Harrisburg, among other places. 97.1 will be in good
> hands.
>
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NotSoSilentBob
Guest
Re: Oldies PD
> Really good guy- adequate programmer. A marked improvement.
I agree. The station's sound has been getting complacent lately. I know it's only nine months old, but it needed a breath of fresh air already.<P ID="signature">______________
Bob
Moderator, Nashville board
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"I don't spread rumors, but I sometimes make outrageous speculations with no factual basis."</P>
> Really good guy- adequate programmer. A marked improvement.
I agree. The station's sound has been getting complacent lately. I know it's only nine months old, but it needed a breath of fresh air already.<P ID="signature">______________
Bob
Moderator, Nashville board
Radio-Info.com--Always Tuned In
"I don't spread rumors, but I sometimes make outrageous speculations with no factual basis."</P>
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digitaldevil23
Guest
Re: Oldies PD
> > Really good guy- adequate programmer. A marked
> improvement.
>
> I agree. The station's sound has been getting complacent
> lately. I know it's only nine months old, but it needed a
> breath of fresh air already.
>
Well, I wish the best for the old PD. I hope he finds his niche. <P ID="signature">______________
Album 88 - 88.5FM
Psychobilly Freakout Mondays from 8-10pm</P>
> > Really good guy- adequate programmer. A marked
> improvement.
>
> I agree. The station's sound has been getting complacent
> lately. I know it's only nine months old, but it needed a
> breath of fresh air already.
>
Well, I wish the best for the old PD. I hope he finds his niche. <P ID="signature">______________
Album 88 - 88.5FM
Psychobilly Freakout Mondays from 8-10pm</P>
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OldiesCat
Guest
Oldies PD
All good Programmers do this continuously. Mediocre programmers get their stations to a certain point, then kick back, set it on auto-pilot and hope for the best.
Ugh.
>
> I agree. The station's sound has been getting complacent
> lately. I know it's only nine months old, but it needed a
> breath of fresh air already.
>
All good Programmers do this continuously. Mediocre programmers get their stations to a certain point, then kick back, set it on auto-pilot and hope for the best.
Ugh.
>
> I agree. The station's sound has been getting complacent
> lately. I know it's only nine months old, but it needed a
> breath of fresh air already.
>
> > Cumulus and their Oldies WRQQ PD part ways. No surprise.
>
> > New PD is from Myrtle Beach, SC, Al Brock.
> >
> > This should be a big improvement.
> >
>
> Do you have any info on Mr. Brock or know his history?
>
he knows his stuff. successfully programmed in much bigger markets
as well as smaller ones.
>
> > New PD is from Myrtle Beach, SC, Al Brock.
> >
> > This should be a big improvement.
> >
>
> Do you have any info on Mr. Brock or know his history?
>
he knows his stuff. successfully programmed in much bigger markets
as well as smaller ones.
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Evangelist
Guest
Re: Oldies PD
> > > Really good guy- adequate programmer. A marked
> > improvement.
> >
> > I agree. The station's sound has been getting complacent
> > lately. I know it's only nine months old, but it needed a
> > breath of fresh air already.
> >
>
> Well, I wish the best for the old PD. I hope he finds his
> niche.
>
The old PD is a good guy and did a creditable job, but in this business, turnover is a way of life. Doesn't mean it will be better or worse, though. It's just the way things are done.
> > > Really good guy- adequate programmer. A marked
> > improvement.
> >
> > I agree. The station's sound has been getting complacent
> > lately. I know it's only nine months old, but it needed a
> > breath of fresh air already.
> >
>
> Well, I wish the best for the old PD. I hope he finds his
> niche.
>
The old PD is a good guy and did a creditable job, but in this business, turnover is a way of life. Doesn't mean it will be better or worse, though. It's just the way things are done.
Re: Oldies PD
> > > > Really good guy- adequate programmer. A marked
> > > improvement.
> > >
> > > I agree. The station's sound has been getting complacent
>
> > > lately. I know it's only nine months old, but it needed
> a
> > > breath of fresh air already.
> > >
> >
> > Well, I wish the best for the old PD. I hope he finds his
>
> > niche.
> >
>
> The old PD is a good guy and did a creditable job, but in
> this business, turnover is a way of life. Doesn't mean it
> will be better or worse, though. It's just the way things
> are done.
>
Any word on where he is going?? I have seen in several post he will stay with the company.
> > > > Really good guy- adequate programmer. A marked
> > > improvement.
> > >
> > > I agree. The station's sound has been getting complacent
>
> > > lately. I know it's only nine months old, but it needed
> a
> > > breath of fresh air already.
> > >
> >
> > Well, I wish the best for the old PD. I hope he finds his
>
> > niche.
> >
>
> The old PD is a good guy and did a creditable job, but in
> this business, turnover is a way of life. Doesn't mean it
> will be better or worse, though. It's just the way things
> are done.
>
Any word on where he is going?? I have seen in several post he will stay with the company.
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OldiesCat
Guest
Oldies PD
He may have been a good guy and Nobel Prize winner and all that jazz but his station did NOT get any better much past day 1. Great programmers do everything they can to make their station sound better and more interesting every day. This guy got the format on and did basic nuts & bolts but not much past that.
>
> The old PD is a good guy and did a creditable job, but in
> this business, turnover is a way of life. Doesn't mean it
> will be better or worse, though. It's just the way things
> are done.
>
He may have been a good guy and Nobel Prize winner and all that jazz but his station did NOT get any better much past day 1. Great programmers do everything they can to make their station sound better and more interesting every day. This guy got the format on and did basic nuts & bolts but not much past that.
>
> The old PD is a good guy and did a creditable job, but in
> this business, turnover is a way of life. Doesn't mean it
> will be better or worse, though. It's just the way things
> are done.
>
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Evangelist
Guest
Re: Oldies PD
> He may have been a good guy and Nobel Prize winner and all
> that jazz but his station did NOT get any better much past
> day 1. Great programmers do everything they can to make
> their station sound better and more interesting every day.
> This guy got the format on and did basic nuts & bolts but
> not much past that.
> >
> > The old PD is a good guy and did a creditable job, but in
> > this business, turnover is a way of life. Doesn't mean it
> > will be better or worse, though. It's just the way things
> > are done.
> >
>
I disagree. Once the format went to Cumulus, there was definitely an improvement. The music was updated and the air talent seemed a bit less constricted. The promotions and community involvement have also been solid. People I have talked to in and out of the business have almost, to a person, said Oldies 97.1 is an improvement over Oldies 96.3. Maybe some consultant sees it differently, but broadcast consultants tend to have lower ethical standards than politicians, and I know, because I've had to deal with both over more than two decades in media.
> He may have been a good guy and Nobel Prize winner and all
> that jazz but his station did NOT get any better much past
> day 1. Great programmers do everything they can to make
> their station sound better and more interesting every day.
> This guy got the format on and did basic nuts & bolts but
> not much past that.
> >
> > The old PD is a good guy and did a creditable job, but in
> > this business, turnover is a way of life. Doesn't mean it
> > will be better or worse, though. It's just the way things
> > are done.
> >
>
I disagree. Once the format went to Cumulus, there was definitely an improvement. The music was updated and the air talent seemed a bit less constricted. The promotions and community involvement have also been solid. People I have talked to in and out of the business have almost, to a person, said Oldies 97.1 is an improvement over Oldies 96.3. Maybe some consultant sees it differently, but broadcast consultants tend to have lower ethical standards than politicians, and I know, because I've had to deal with both over more than two decades in media.
Re: Oldies PD
> I disagree. Once the format went to Cumulus, there was
> definitely an improvement.
The discussion here in the past and that around town also supports you in this. The change really freshened the format. And yes, the station did get better after day 1, because all of the elements weren't in place then. The PD was an AC programmer though, although he did a decent job with Oldies. New PD is an Oldies guy.
> I disagree. Once the format went to Cumulus, there was
> definitely an improvement.
The discussion here in the past and that around town also supports you in this. The change really freshened the format. And yes, the station did get better after day 1, because all of the elements weren't in place then. The PD was an AC programmer though, although he did a decent job with Oldies. New PD is an Oldies guy.
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OldiesCat
Guest
97.1
Here's how you judge a radio station's success- number of listeners. And, since their first few months on-the-air with oldies, the number of listeners has decreased. They tried it, felt OK somebody brought Oldies back, then decided it wasn't so great after all.
And, noo offense intended, but you are so full of it about consultants and "lower ethical standards". What a bitter, small market mindset cheap-shot. This has NOTHING TO DO WITH CONSULTANTS, yet the oh-so-easy "consultants all suck" card gets pulled out. You obviously worked somewhere where management blamed "the consultant" for them being screw-ups and continue to carry your sour grapes about it.
> I disagree. Once the format went to Cumulus, there was
> definitely an improvement. The music was updated and the air
> talent seemed a bit less constricted. The promotions and
> community involvement have also been solid. People I have
> talked to in and out of the business have almost, to a
> person, said Oldies 97.1 is an improvement over Oldies 96.3.
> Maybe some consultant sees it differently, but broadcast
> consultants tend to have lower ethical standards than
> politicians, and I know, because I've had to deal with both
> over more than two decades in media.
>
Here's how you judge a radio station's success- number of listeners. And, since their first few months on-the-air with oldies, the number of listeners has decreased. They tried it, felt OK somebody brought Oldies back, then decided it wasn't so great after all.
And, noo offense intended, but you are so full of it about consultants and "lower ethical standards". What a bitter, small market mindset cheap-shot. This has NOTHING TO DO WITH CONSULTANTS, yet the oh-so-easy "consultants all suck" card gets pulled out. You obviously worked somewhere where management blamed "the consultant" for them being screw-ups and continue to carry your sour grapes about it.
> I disagree. Once the format went to Cumulus, there was
> definitely an improvement. The music was updated and the air
> talent seemed a bit less constricted. The promotions and
> community involvement have also been solid. People I have
> talked to in and out of the business have almost, to a
> person, said Oldies 97.1 is an improvement over Oldies 96.3.
> Maybe some consultant sees it differently, but broadcast
> consultants tend to have lower ethical standards than
> politicians, and I know, because I've had to deal with both
> over more than two decades in media.
>
Re: 97.1
OC -
I have to say the music on Oldies 97 is a vast improvement
from 96.3 The imaging, etc. is not a lot different technically
from 96. I don't think they have spent anywhere close to what
SCC did on marketing, etc. That being said, the newness
and spike from the May flip has worn off and the numbers
are down to where Oldies, as a format, was headed in this
market anyway. Plus, some of the numbers have gone to Jack.
But, I think the Oldies format was destined to decrease here
quicker than markets with an older skewing demo like er we
say Detroit or Pittsburgh!!! Had to get you going on the
Detroit thing.
As for consultants, that's another discussion.
OC -
I have to say the music on Oldies 97 is a vast improvement
from 96.3 The imaging, etc. is not a lot different technically
from 96. I don't think they have spent anywhere close to what
SCC did on marketing, etc. That being said, the newness
and spike from the May flip has worn off and the numbers
are down to where Oldies, as a format, was headed in this
market anyway. Plus, some of the numbers have gone to Jack.
But, I think the Oldies format was destined to decrease here
quicker than markets with an older skewing demo like er we
say Detroit or Pittsburgh!!! Had to get you going on the
Detroit thing.
As for consultants, that's another discussion.
O
OldiesCat
Guest
97.1
You're right in that the traditional midwestern industrial-type markets like Detroit, Pittsburgh, Milwaukee, Cleveland, Cincinnati, etc., will have higher Oldies shares and other more transient and somewhat younger markets will not.
Nashville's somewhere between these two situations. All I can comment on is what I've heard on 97.1 and that has been very ordinary, average radio. Not terrible but not great. They do OK radio on a good day and some mediocre radio some other days- not drastically different than most Oldies stations in America today.
>
> I have to say the music on Oldies 97 is a vast improvement
> from 96.3 The imaging, etc. is not a lot different
> technically
> from 96. I don't think they have spent anywhere close to
> what
> SCC did on marketing, etc. That being said, the newness
> and spike from the May flip has worn off and the numbers
> are down to where Oldies, as a format, was headed in this
> market anyway. Plus, some of the numbers have gone to Jack.
>
> But, I think the Oldies format was destined to decrease here
>
> quicker than markets with an older skewing demo like er we
> say Detroit or Pittsburgh!!! Had to get you going on the
> Detroit thing.
>
> As for consultants, that's another discussion.
>
You're right in that the traditional midwestern industrial-type markets like Detroit, Pittsburgh, Milwaukee, Cleveland, Cincinnati, etc., will have higher Oldies shares and other more transient and somewhat younger markets will not.
Nashville's somewhere between these two situations. All I can comment on is what I've heard on 97.1 and that has been very ordinary, average radio. Not terrible but not great. They do OK radio on a good day and some mediocre radio some other days- not drastically different than most Oldies stations in America today.
>
> I have to say the music on Oldies 97 is a vast improvement
> from 96.3 The imaging, etc. is not a lot different
> technically
> from 96. I don't think they have spent anywhere close to
> what
> SCC did on marketing, etc. That being said, the newness
> and spike from the May flip has worn off and the numbers
> are down to where Oldies, as a format, was headed in this
> market anyway. Plus, some of the numbers have gone to Jack.
>
> But, I think the Oldies format was destined to decrease here
>
> quicker than markets with an older skewing demo like er we
> say Detroit or Pittsburgh!!! Had to get you going on the
> Detroit thing.
>
> As for consultants, that's another discussion.
>
Re: 97.1
> >not drastically different than most Oldies stations in
> America today.
>
> that says it all!
> It does? How do YOU know what MOST Oldies stations do? Fact is, the format is still viable and if executed well..it can get great numbers. Some companies that bailed on the format had sales issues..not ratings issues. There are many mediocre Oldies stations, but that can be said for all formats.
Norman is checking O-U-T!!
> >not drastically different than most Oldies stations in
> America today.
>
> that says it all!
> It does? How do YOU know what MOST Oldies stations do? Fact is, the format is still viable and if executed well..it can get great numbers. Some companies that bailed on the format had sales issues..not ratings issues. There are many mediocre Oldies stations, but that can be said for all formats.
Norman is checking O-U-T!!
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Evangelist
Guest
Re: 97.1
No offense intended? Yeah, right.
You seem to have had it in for Oldies 97.1 almost since Day One. Your posts of about 2-3 weeks ago which were nothing more than a personal attack on a fine broadcaster and a good guy prove it.
Maybe you're carrying some sort of sour grapes--were you turned down for a job there once? Or is there some other factor?
Me--small market? Nah. I've worked for medium/larger market and national news outfits.
Oldies 97.1 has done a solid job since it came on the air. The music is better and the air talent sounds less constricted than they were at the previous location. And by the way, the talent is good--they have strong name recognition and are liked in the community.
Are there areas where the station could improve? Sure. But that is true of every station in every city. Overall, though, Oldies 97.1 is doing well. It's making money and that's what radio stations are supposed to do.
An aside--I stand by what I sad about consultants. In all my years in this business, I've met one or two who were credible and actually knew something about broadcasting; in the case of news consultants, journalism. But I've also seen how some of them are snakes and don't care who they smear or ruin just to justify themselves.
No offense intended? Yeah, right.
You seem to have had it in for Oldies 97.1 almost since Day One. Your posts of about 2-3 weeks ago which were nothing more than a personal attack on a fine broadcaster and a good guy prove it.
Maybe you're carrying some sort of sour grapes--were you turned down for a job there once? Or is there some other factor?
Me--small market? Nah. I've worked for medium/larger market and national news outfits.
Oldies 97.1 has done a solid job since it came on the air. The music is better and the air talent sounds less constricted than they were at the previous location. And by the way, the talent is good--they have strong name recognition and are liked in the community.
Are there areas where the station could improve? Sure. But that is true of every station in every city. Overall, though, Oldies 97.1 is doing well. It's making money and that's what radio stations are supposed to do.
An aside--I stand by what I sad about consultants. In all my years in this business, I've met one or two who were credible and actually knew something about broadcasting; in the case of news consultants, journalism. But I've also seen how some of them are snakes and don't care who they smear or ruin just to justify themselves.
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