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Oldies Radio: Dead In S.F.

landtuna said:
Unless you're pulling my chain.....no. Be-Bop was coined in the mid/late 50's to describe the type of music being played by Elvis, Rick Nelson, et al, and the Doo Wop crossover acts.
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No, "be-bop" was the term that old people and squares used to refer to rock'n'roll, as a disparaging term. ("You kids turn off that loud be-bop garbage!")

If anyone has evidence that any kids in the late 1950s ever said "For joy! The latest be-bop hit by the famed be-bop singer Elvis Presley has been released! Shall we hasten to the phonograph record shoppe to procure a copy?" then I'll sautee my chapeau and make a meal of it.

Be-bop, for those of us that are jazz aficionados, is jazz. Period.

With all due respect to the late, great Ricky Nelson, just because he did a song called "Be Bop Baby" doesn't make him a be-bop artist by any stretch of the imagination.

...What was the topic again?
 
David, you're a very bright man with a wealth of information and noteworthy background, but you'll have to "trust me" on the Freed-Lorenz connection. It comes from conversations with Lorenz' son Frank, talking to old-timers and radio vets who worked with the Hound in Buffalo. Yes, WKBW has (had) a massive pattern to the east and barely got into Chatauqua County and Dunkirk-Fredonia back in the day, but as I am told, both the Hound and Freed were well aware of each other thanks to the miracle of recording tape and Wollensaks. Interestingly enough, KB was CapCities' flagship back in the day and its sykwave at night roared into NYC.

-Regards, Mike Radknowski, Buffalo Board
 
Oldies On KYCY?

There is a RadiOldiez show on KYCY-1550 from 3:pM-6:pM after CASEY KASEM's AT40. Does anyone know what type of OLDIES they play?
 
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Madmansam said:
There is a RadiOldiez show on KYCY-1550 from 3:pM-6:pM after CASEY KASEM's AT40. Does anyone know what type of OLDIES they play?
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That show is hosted by "Wild" Bill Scott!! I remember listening to him on WABX in Detroit when I was a kid and I worked with him at KFOG in the '80's. He's an "old school" jock who had the funniest radio stories I've ever heard. I've only heard his podcast a few times mostly 50's stuff...
 
BossRadioDJ said:
But Tuna ... isn't Be-Bop a variation of Jazz?
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An argument can be made that bebop is an outgrowth of late Western swing (of the Billy Jack Wills, Vance Terry, Jimmie Rivers era), and it can also be argued that rock and roll was also an outgrowth of that genre. A good listen is Brisbane Bop, a CD released by Joaquin Records a few years ago, recorded at DeMarco's 23 Club in Brisbane (just south of SF).

Here's a link to reviews of the CD and of the genre itself:
http://www.amazon.com/Brisbane-Bop-Jimmie-Rivers/dp/B0000009DN

Here are samples from all the cuts; Jammin' with Jimmie is a good example where you can hear that this music is on the cusp of Western, bebop, and rock:
http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/music/pid/1011092/a/Brisbane+Bop.htm
 
landtuna said:
Unless you're pulling my chain.....no. Be-Bop was coined in the mid/late 50's to describe the type of music being played by Elvis, Rick Nelson, et al, and the Doo Wop crossover acts. I've never heard the term Be-Bop applied to any form of jazz.
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Well, indeed, bebop is a form of jazz in that it's an improv where the riffs are based not so much on the melody as on the chord structure. My contention is that its roots are in Western swing, a vastly overlooked genre that was hugely popular in the Southwest and West from the late 30s until about 1965, but is all but unknown today. Catch the other thread where I refer to Jimmie Rivers & the Cherokees and have links to his music. You can hear that this music is distinctly Western (as in "country & Western") and yet it strong in bebop and rock as well.
 
Is Family Radio coming to 1170 AM and Salem coming to 610 AM? Could beeeeeeeeeee! Just watch the tea leaves and the sun spots for the answer.......lol lol...this implies no insider info at all.
 
RadioStarOne said:
Is Family Radio coming to 1170 AM and Salem coming to 610 AM? Could beeeeeeeeeee! Just watch the tea leaves and the sun spots for the answer.......lol lol...this implies no insider info at all.
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Salem is losing money right now.

Family Stations paid 35 million for KFRC and sold KEAR-FM for 95 million. I doubt if Salem is going to buy 610 even if they were to trade 1170 AM (presuming Salem is buying the station from Univision).
 
radio dx said:
What a waste of two powerhouse freq.
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Well...unfortunately AM radio is on life-support at this point. With the national trend (just starting in the Bay Area) of moving the big news and talk stations to FM, there isn't much hope for anything on AM other than fringe talk and religious formats.

Somebody else brought up the possibility of fringe music formats coming to AM. I don't think so. I loved AM radio as a kid and a young adult...up until about 25 years ago when the superiority of FM hi-fi stereo sound became obvious and FM reception improved. In an era when there are so many ways to get music with high quality sound (MP3 Players, terrestrial FM, HD-FM radio, satellite, Music Choice on cable at home, etc.), I can't imagine myself listening to music on AM - even it it was a format I liked.
 
I think media (being print or broadcast) is in ICU at this point but the AM side is on life support. I can tell you in talking to some folks at various media outlets the death watch is on.
 
Its time to trade the AM Radio Band in on an expanded FM radio service. BTW, in digital only and with 25,000 to 50,000 watt operation across the expanded band! And reserve 540 AM to 1000 AM for existing licensed 50,000 Watt stations only. Find another use for the rest of the band.
 
RadioStarOne said:
BTW, in digital only and with 25,000 to 50,000 watt operation across the expanded band!
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Digital only? Not unless you, or someone else who is positioned to gain from this idea, pays to replace my existing analog FM radios.

Now what was the advantage of digital FM?
 
landtuna said:
RadioStarOne said:
BTW, in digital only and with 25,000 to 50,000 watt operation across the expanded band!
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Digital only? Not unless you, or someone else who is positioned to gain from this idea, pays to replace my existing analog FM radios.
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Converter boxes! We'll start a new industry! Converter boxes to change your old-timey analog FM radio into a brand spankin' new digital (whoopee!) FM radio!

You can glue it onto the front of your antiquated 1990s-era FM radio, or Velcro* it for easy removal, or -- genius! -- they could supply matching rubber bands so you could rubber band it onto your terribly out of date (soooooo yesterday) analog FM radio.

If it worked for the TV fellas, it'll work for the radio folks, too. Right?

By the way, before my brain explodes (yet again), have you seen the KGO FM website lately. Go on. Have a look:

http://www.kgofm.com/


* "Velcro" is a trademark of Amalgamated Velcro Industries of Pierre, South Dakota. Used by permission.
 
BossRadioDJ said:
Converter boxes! We'll start a new industry! Converter boxes to change your old-timey analog FM radio into a brand spankin' new digital (whoopee!) FM radio!
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Nooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

By the way, before my brain explodes (yet again), have you seen the KGO FM website lately. Go on. Have a look: http://www.kgofm.com/
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How about they revert back to 1967? You know.....

F-MMMMMMM......103.7.....KAY-GEE-OOOOOOOO....STEREOOOOOOO....SAN FRANCISCOOOOOOOOO!!!
 
ABC had an owned and operated FM station back in the 1970's - KSFX-FM which was a great station - I beleive it was on 103.7 not sure.

LA has KLOS-FM 95.5 and I believe New York has WPLJ-FM 95.5
 
Newschannel4SF said:
ABC had an owned and operated FM station back in the 1970's - KSFX-FM which was a great station - I beleive it was on 103.7 not sure.

LA has KLOS-FM 95.5 and I believe New York has WPLJ-FM 95.5
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ABC Operated 103.7 for a long time. It was even KGO-FM in the early 80's. KSFX was Top 40 in the 70's, then it went disco, then back to Top 40 then AOR before becomein KGO-FM again in 1981. KGO-FM was at 106.1 in the (50's and 60's?) according to old Broadcasting Yearbook's I've looked at. David Eduardo has scanned the pages of many of them and placed them on his website.
 
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