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OMG!.....Classic Seattle Radio Compilations From 1988.....

I agree, the late 80's was a nice era in Seattle radio. Most stations were "in it to win it", no doubt. And there was a lot of nice jingle imaging going here, too. When you combine this era with the 1960's KJR-KOL battles, and even the 70's KING-KJR battles, plus some of the "personality" rockers, you realize that Seattle was a very rich radio market indeed.
 
searadiofreak said:
I agree, the late 80's was a nice era in Seattle radio. Most stations were "in it to win it", no doubt. And there was a lot of nice jingle imaging going here, too. When you combine this era with the 1960's KJR-KOL battles, and even the 70's KING-KJR battles, plus some of the "personality" rockers, you realize that Seattle was a very rich radio market indeed.
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Although it's a great sample, it's kinda sad whoever put this up missed KISW, KMPS, KVI (still playing oldies!), KJET (which didn't depart us until September of '88), early KNUA, KEZX (which had changed to the slightly more upbeat "The Northwest Progressive" AAA format around this time.), KOMO (full service AC), and even B/EZs KSEA and KBRD in their last days. KEZX-AM 1150 was still "The Oasis" new age format (by day.), 1250 was still KKFX (K-Fox), and KJR-AM was oldies. Hopefully he/she has them on tape still and will roll them out eventually.....No picture of Seattle radio of that time would be complete without them......

Seattle was truly a very rich radio market back then. Sure beats what we have today to a pulp. There was something for everybody - even on AM! I feel kinda bad now that I took what we had back then for granted......

Yet somehow, I take comfort in knowing if somebody came from 2010 and played recordings of Seattle radio today and told them of the computer automation, Telecom '96, the consolidation, downsizing and job losses and other BS that happened to radio since, they'd have all united and formed a lynch mob, set him/her on fire and chased him/her back into whatever he/she came from and personally see that none of that EVER happened invested in Microsoft stock.......
 
So let me get this straight... In the good old days there were lots of bad jingles with jocks reading liners and doing time-and-temp over song intros? To be honest, I've never seen any listener research that's made any positive comments that they listened because of jingles, time and temp announcements, or blabby jocks going on and on about how many differrent ways one could spell Terry. I'm sure there was NO tune out during that little bit of radio history! :D
 
TVradioguru said:
So let me get this straight... In the good old days there were lots of bad jingles with jocks reading liners and doing time-and-temp over song intros? To be honest, I've never seen any listener research that's made any positive comments that they listened because of jingles, time and temp announcements, or blabby jocks going on and on about how many differrent ways one could spell Terry. I'm sure there was NO tune out during that little bit of radio history! :D
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Sure beats what we have today to a pulp......
 
TVradioguru said:
So let me get this straight... In the good old days there were lots of bad jingles with jocks reading liners and doing time-and-temp over song intros? To be honest, I've never seen any listener research that's made any positive comments that they listened because of jingles, time and temp announcements, or blabby jocks going on and on about how many differrent ways one could spell Terry. I'm sure there was NO tune out during that little bit of radio history! :D
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No, there were lots of GOOD jingles with jocks who were able to be real personalities over song intros. Agreed, listeners never made any positive comments that they listened because of jingles, etc., but listeners did have a subliminal "like" of the sound of a radio station, and that included the jingles, the jock talk, the music, and the whole package. There was certainly more passion for radio during this "little bit of radio history", and it was because radio stations put together an entire package of entertainment, imaging, music, promotions, etc. THAT is what is lacking today.
 
Yup, freak you nailed it. Sure the business drives everything ... but the fact is the content supremely sucks. Even if you turn to satellite -- 70's channel, for example -- you get Barry Williams (Brady Bunch) who has been coached to read a handful of newspaper bits and a producer lays those over/between songs as raw tracks. Result is it is SUPPOSED to be "personality" radio, but done by someone who is not even there to TRY to "tie the pieces together". At least in the window we're talking about here, that was still an EFFORT. Sure, some listened for countdowns, dedications, jocks, to hear their fave come back in rotation ... but ultimately it was the whole package that drove loyalty. KXRX was masterful at it, Charlie/Ty, many more.

But rules of today not driven so much by business needs that say we can't DO any of those things, it's that powers that be are apparently scared s%%tless to let anyone have any HINT of control of the asylum, so everything is pre-canned (even live talent limited to pre-scripted liners, promos and music rotations).

For the grumpier folks on the board, though .... we have PLENTY of talent available here who can help you chase the kids off your lawn. Even THAT exercise will give us more flexibility than we would have in the biz.
 
searadiofreak said:
No, there were lots of GOOD jingles with jocks who were able to be real personalities over song intros. Agreed, listeners never made any positive comments that they listened because of jingles, etc., but listeners did have a subliminal "like" of the sound of a radio station, and that included the jingles, the jock talk, the music, and the whole package. There was certainly more passion for radio during this "little bit of radio history", and it was because radio stations put together an entire package of entertainment, imaging, music, promotions, etc. THAT is what is lacking today.
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So if SO wonderful and popular, how many of those same stations in "the good old days" are still formatted the same today? I think you know the answer. The fact is that unlike those "good old days', we can actually measure what listeners want in almost real time. What they want? Lot's of music for free with minimal interruption. What they don't want? Blabby DJ's giving time and temps or talking just to hear themselves, to which I suspect many of you were guilty of when you worked in radio.

It seems to me as well there were many instances of positioning liners being read in that little montage. Haven't I read several of you railing against liners?

"The world is full of people whose notion of a satisfactory future is, in fact, a return to the idealized past." Robertson Davies, A Voice from the Attic
 
LITTLEBOYBLUE said:
For the grumpier folks on the board, though .... we have PLENTY of talent available here who can help you chase the kids off your lawn. Even THAT exercise will give us more flexibility than we would have in the biz.
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So, Blue - to you, "grumpy" is your derogatory term for those who actually still work in the radio industry. That's a laugher - being called "grumpy" because we are realists rather than fantasizers.
 
No...grumpy to me is peppering everyone who steps forward with an observtion with put-downs because they don't agree with your perspective. It's a freaking pigeon looking for a statue so it can deliver a similarly welcome substance. Give people a freaking break ... the disgareement is cool, the attitude can go anytime.
 
LITTLEBOYBLUE said:
... the disgareement is cool, the attitude can go anytime.
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Totally agree, LBB. I would LOVE it if the vitriol on this board went away and the Seattle forum would become much like other R-I boards.

But if you look at the VAST MAJORITY of these threads the attitude starts with the original poster - and that's rarely AQH, the Guru or other radio pros. I do start a few topics and yes, they may be sarcastic at times and I promise to tone that down in the future.

Now, let's have a civil discussion!
 
LITTLEBOYBLUE said:
No...grumpy to me is peppering everyone who steps forward with an observtion with put-downs because they don't agree with your perspective. It's a freaking pigeon looking for a statue so it can deliver a similarly welcome substance. Give people a freaking break ... the disgareement is cool, the attitude can go anytime.
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Interesting! Please point out in this thread where I, or anyone used put-downs to make an opposing point. So it's okay to pigeon-hole someone as grumpy then, if they disagree with you or have an opposing view? Or is that only if it's you or Bong? I'm trying to understand the rules.

"Nothing is more responsible for the good old days than a bad memory." Franklin Pierce Adams
 
TVradioguru said:
searadiofreak said:
No, there were lots of GOOD jingles with jocks who were able to be real personalities over song intros. Agreed, listeners never made any positive comments that they listened because of jingles, etc., but listeners did have a subliminal "like" of the sound of a radio station, and that included the jingles, the jock talk, the music, and the whole package. There was certainly more passion for radio during this "little bit of radio history", and it was because radio stations put together an entire package of entertainment, imaging, music, promotions, etc. THAT is what is lacking today.
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So if SO wonderful and popular, how many of those same stations in "the good old days" are still formatted the same today? I think you know the answer. The fact is that unlike those "good old days', we can actually measure what listeners want in almost real time. What they want? Lot's of music for free with minimal interruption. What they don't want? Blabby DJ's giving time and temps or talking just to hear themselves, to which I suspect many of you were guilty of when you worked in radio.

It seems to me as well there were many instances of positioning liners being read in that little montage. Haven't I read several of you railing against liners?

"The world is full of people whose notion of a satisfactory future is, in fact, a return to the idealized past." Robertson Davies, A Voice from the Attic
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You have got to be kidding....

Of course your "listeners" (and the only ones remaining that would willingly listen to the crap on Seattle commercial radio these days are the carefully selected few with PPMs) don't care about personality or depth. Probably because nobody who has a PPM has any either.

The rest of us (and that's roughly some 99.99999999999999% of us) have found better things to listen to....... ;D
 
bongwater is being excessively grumpy, and exagerating the facts. its only 99.9999999999999% of the rest of us that have found better things to listen to. not 99.99999999999999%. your off by .00000000000009%.
 
Good to see that people are still passionate about the business.

The reason why everybody/everything is so safe is because the industry is operated either by guys who have been around long enough to have seen both the upside and downside to radio people with passion or by those who have heard the stories.

The great talents in our industry have been and, for the most part, still are artists. They are high-strung and high-maintenance. They are high achievers with high intellects. And, yes, many of them have just been...high.

The FCC's 80-20 docket hastened the demise of the industry by introducing too many non-competitive properties owned by too many non-broadcasters.
A shakeout and shrinkage is long overdue if economic history is to be believed. Now, we have to deal with the ultimate wildcard--the PPM.

Radio today is a high risk business and savvy money guys are risk-averse. There is very little capital out there and it is very nervous money. Even the hint of deviation from "the plan" or aversion to what the consultant says is "safe" will get you fired.
 
Dusty Dale Brooks said:
Good to see that people are still passionate about the business.

The reason why everybody/everything is so safe is because the industry is operated either by guys who have been around long enough to have seen both the upside and downside to radio people with passion or by those who have heard the stories.

The great talents in our industry have been and, for the most part, still are artists. They are high-strung and high-maintenance. They are high achievers with high intellects. And, yes, many of them have just been...high.

The FCC's 80-20 docket hastened the demise of the industry by introducing too many non-competitive properties owned by too many non-broadcasters.
A shakeout and shrinkage is long overdue if economic history is to be believed. Now, we have to deal with the ultimate wildcard--the PPM.

Radio today is a high risk business and savvy money guys are risk-averse. There is very little capital out there and it is very nervous money. Even the hint of deviation from "the plan" or aversion to what the consultant says is "safe" will get you fired.
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100,000% PERFECT Dusty, I commend you well.
 
Just listened to Part I & heard Erik Funk on KPLZ. He is now here in Whitfish, Mt. They sure did alot of weather back in the late 80's...
 
Better be careful Mr. Magic, you're talking about the creative good old days!

Go back and listen to those forecasts and you'll find all kinds of creative personality
in them.

You also have Robin and Dave, talent from the Robin and Maynard show there in Whitefish.

What little I knew of Eric was that he was a fairly quite, mellow, good guy!
I think he was replaced by Greg Thunder, who was a wild man, once married to
Walter Mondale's daughter, and for a couple of years replaced Icky on KMPS.
Where's Greg now?
 
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