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Omnia.fm (original) vs Omnia-3fmt
- Thread starter gtomas
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Goran:
In some ways I would agree. We started with an Omnbia 3, then installed the "turbo" upgrade which added the split band AGC.
Comes down to processing philosophies. Our format is lite rock. Original Omnia had a very open sound & I liked the ability to adjust the EQ without adding to the compression.
However, my partner--ex top 40 jock, is of the "Phil Spector'Wall of Sound/VU meters don't move school" More Compression! More Compression! (I canna give you more compression Captain, the warp enginess won't stand the strain.....)
This is what the turbo version gives you.
The "standard" settings in the 3 and the 3-T are also very different in their results.
Of course, with tinkering, one could always make the turbo behave like the 3.
It's the tinkering time that is difficult to find.
In some ways I would agree. We started with an Omnbia 3, then installed the "turbo" upgrade which added the split band AGC.
Comes down to processing philosophies. Our format is lite rock. Original Omnia had a very open sound & I liked the ability to adjust the EQ without adding to the compression.
However, my partner--ex top 40 jock, is of the "Phil Spector'Wall of Sound/VU meters don't move school" More Compression! More Compression! (I canna give you more compression Captain, the warp enginess won't stand the strain.....)
This is what the turbo version gives you.
The "standard" settings in the 3 and the 3-T are also very different in their results.
Of course, with tinkering, one could always make the turbo behave like the 3.
It's the tinkering time that is difficult to find.
>(I canna give you more
> compression Captain, the warp enginess won't stand the
> strain.....)
LOL
Good one!
> Of course, with tinkering, one could always make the turbo
> behave like the 3.
> It's the tinkering time that is difficult to find.
I hear you. Besides chasing computer bugs and problems, adjusting processors can really be time consuming...
Regards,
Goran Tomas
> compression Captain, the warp enginess won't stand the
> strain.....)
LOL
Good one! > Of course, with tinkering, one could always make the turbo
> behave like the 3.
> It's the tinkering time that is difficult to find.
I hear you. Besides chasing computer bugs and problems, adjusting processors can really be time consuming...
Regards,
Goran Tomas
> Goran:
>
> In some ways I would agree. We started with an Omnbia 3,
> then installed the "turbo" upgrade which added the split
> band AGC.
>
> Comes down to processing philosophies. Our format is lite
> rock. Original Omnia had a very open sound & I liked the
> ability to adjust the EQ without adding to the compression.
>
>
> However, my partner--ex top 40 jock, is of the "Phil
> Spector'Wall of Sound/VU meters don't move school" More
> Compression! More Compression! (I canna give you more
> compression Captain, the warp enginess won't stand the
> strain.....)
>
> This is what the turbo version gives you.
>
> The "standard" settings in the 3 and the 3-T are also very
> different in their results.
>
> Of course, with tinkering, one could always make the turbo
> behave like the 3.
> It's the tinkering time that is difficult to find.
> The O3T is a dramatic improvement over the O3.i found the smooth preset worked great for oldies.some rock users like the urban with the bass backed off.even know a country station using this setting and they really like it.when you land on a preset leave it for awhile and listen to a lot of material (songs & voice) before changing it.let it mellow....and if all fails call Mark at Omnia,he'll be glad to assist.
>
> In some ways I would agree. We started with an Omnbia 3,
> then installed the "turbo" upgrade which added the split
> band AGC.
>
> Comes down to processing philosophies. Our format is lite
> rock. Original Omnia had a very open sound & I liked the
> ability to adjust the EQ without adding to the compression.
>
>
> However, my partner--ex top 40 jock, is of the "Phil
> Spector'Wall of Sound/VU meters don't move school" More
> Compression! More Compression! (I canna give you more
> compression Captain, the warp enginess won't stand the
> strain.....)
>
> This is what the turbo version gives you.
>
> The "standard" settings in the 3 and the 3-T are also very
> different in their results.
>
> Of course, with tinkering, one could always make the turbo
> behave like the 3.
> It's the tinkering time that is difficult to find.
> The O3T is a dramatic improvement over the O3.i found the smooth preset worked great for oldies.some rock users like the urban with the bass backed off.even know a country station using this setting and they really like it.when you land on a preset leave it for awhile and listen to a lot of material (songs & voice) before changing it.let it mellow....and if all fails call Mark at Omnia,he'll be glad to assist.
> I hear you. Besides chasing computer bugs and problems,
> adjusting processors can really be time consuming...
>
>
> Regards,
> Goran Tomas
>
Especially when you are trying to get a setting the PD/GM/whatever wants, where said PM/GM is in his 40's or early 50's with a considerable amount of high frequency hearing loss from having the headphones too load over the years..
(That's why so many stations sound "mid-rangy")
> adjusting processors can really be time consuming...
>
>
> Regards,
> Goran Tomas
>
Especially when you are trying to get a setting the PD/GM/whatever wants, where said PM/GM is in his 40's or early 50's with a considerable amount of high frequency hearing loss from having the headphones too load over the years..
(That's why so many stations sound "mid-rangy")
> Comes down to processing philosophies. Our format is lite
> rock. Original Omnia had a very open sound & I liked the
> ability to adjust the EQ without adding to the compression.
Having re-read your post, are you talking about Omnia.3 vs Omnia.3fmt or are you talking about original Omnia.fm (you know, first Omnia processor, 4-bands) vs Omnia.3fmt?
That's the comparison I'm interested in.
Regards,
Goran Tomas
P.S. Original Omnia looks like this: http://gtomas.no-ip.org/Omnia/Omniafm.jpg
> rock. Original Omnia had a very open sound & I liked the
> ability to adjust the EQ without adding to the compression.
Having re-read your post, are you talking about Omnia.3 vs Omnia.3fmt or are you talking about original Omnia.fm (you know, first Omnia processor, 4-bands) vs Omnia.3fmt?
That's the comparison I'm interested in.
Regards,
Goran Tomas
P.S. Original Omnia looks like this: http://gtomas.no-ip.org/Omnia/Omniafm.jpg
I'm having great success with the FMt...alot more control than I had with the standard 3. My stations have plenty of presence and punch. I just modified a setting called Dense, and it is all good, and I have 4 FM stations running them.<P ID="signature">______________
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Legend Communications Of Wyoming, LLC.
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Zach Morton
Chief Engineer
Legend Communications Of Wyoming, LLC.
> > Comes down to processing philosophies. Our format is lite
>
> > rock. Original Omnia had a very open sound & I liked the
> > ability to adjust the EQ without adding to the
> compression.
>
> Having re-read your post, are you talking about Omnia.3 vs
> Omnia.3fmt or are you talking about original Omnia.fm (you
> know, first Omnia processor, 4-bands) vs Omnia.3fmt?
>
> That's the comparison I'm interested in.
>
>
> Regards,
> Goran Tomas
>
> P.S. Original Omnia looks like this:
> http://gtomas.no-ip.org/Omnia/Omniafm.jpg
>
We have 2 Brand new 3fmt units, one running Rock and one CHR, then a Solid Gold format (60's and 70's) Running the omnia.fm (4 band AGC low-mid-pres-high, 4 band Limiting low-mid-pres-high) I like the vocals on the omnia.fm but music isn't as natural as the 3fmt units, and you have to squash the (BLEEP) out of it to get it loud.
>
> > rock. Original Omnia had a very open sound & I liked the
> > ability to adjust the EQ without adding to the
> compression.
>
> Having re-read your post, are you talking about Omnia.3 vs
> Omnia.3fmt or are you talking about original Omnia.fm (you
> know, first Omnia processor, 4-bands) vs Omnia.3fmt?
>
> That's the comparison I'm interested in.
>
>
> Regards,
> Goran Tomas
>
> P.S. Original Omnia looks like this:
> http://gtomas.no-ip.org/Omnia/Omniafm.jpg
>
We have 2 Brand new 3fmt units, one running Rock and one CHR, then a Solid Gold format (60's and 70's) Running the omnia.fm (4 band AGC low-mid-pres-high, 4 band Limiting low-mid-pres-high) I like the vocals on the omnia.fm but music isn't as natural as the 3fmt units, and you have to squash the (BLEEP) out of it to get it loud.
We replaced a stock 8100 with the Omnia 3. (not the Omnia FM you show--similar display, and "menu wheel" on right, but not the "whatzit" on the left of the display
Very satisfied with the "loudness" (I know, that's not a word) of the Omnia compared with the 8100. Our light rock format uses lots of 80's material, as well as a scattering of 70's oldies. Depends on what you mean by "loud."
On both the 3 and the turbo I notice gravel on some voices. Also found early on, to keep the input as low as possible to avoid overdriving the A/D converter with voice peaks.
Very satisfied with the "loudness" (I know, that's not a word) of the Omnia compared with the 8100. Our light rock format uses lots of 80's material, as well as a scattering of 70's oldies. Depends on what you mean by "loud."
On both the 3 and the turbo I notice gravel on some voices. Also found early on, to keep the input as low as possible to avoid overdriving the A/D converter with voice peaks.
R
RadioActive05
Guest
We're extremely pleased with the 03T. For our Rock format I'm using a modified version of the Urban preset (Reduced the Bass and tweaked the HF). The classic rocker up the dial is running an 06, our 03T sounds very competitive when compared to the 06. The 06 *definitely* has more dial presence but for under $3K for the 03T, you can’t go wrong..
I'm having great success with the FMt...alot more control
> than I had with the standard 3. My stations have plenty of
> presence and punch. I just modified a setting called Dense,
> and it is all good, and I have 4 FM stations running them.
>
I'm having great success with the FMt...alot more control
> than I had with the standard 3. My stations have plenty of
> presence and punch. I just modified a setting called Dense,
> and it is all good, and I have 4 FM stations running them.
>
> > > Comes down to processing philosophies. Our format is
> lite
> >
> > > rock. Original Omnia had a very open sound & I liked
> the
> > > ability to adjust the EQ without adding to the
> > compression.
> >
> > Having re-read your post, are you talking about Omnia.3 vs
>
> > Omnia.3fmt or are you talking about original Omnia.fm (you
>
> > know, first Omnia processor, 4-bands) vs Omnia.3fmt?
> >
> > That's the comparison I'm interested in.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Goran Tomas
> >
> > P.S. Original Omnia looks like this:
> > http://gtomas.no-ip.org/Omnia/Omniafm.jpg
> >
> We have 2 Brand new 3fmt units, one running Rock and one
> CHR, then a Solid Gold format (60's and 70's) Running the
> omnia.fm (4 band AGC low-mid-pres-high, 4 band Limiting
> low-mid-pres-high) I like the vocals on the omnia.fm but
> music isn't as natural as the 3fmt units, and you have to
> squash the (BLEEP) out of it to get it loud.
> also want to mention the DSP_X ver 2.8.best bang for the buck right now for 3 grand.and it's big brother the dsp-extra with buillt in Ariane digital leveler.just darn awesome..did shoot out with the extra and the omnia 6 ex.extra won out with better AGC and half the price of the O6.you can try them on a money back guarantee as i did.don't worry you;ll want to keep it..anyone looking for a O6 with the latest software and barely over 2 years old.let me know..6500.00 takes it home...
> lite
> >
> > > rock. Original Omnia had a very open sound & I liked
> the
> > > ability to adjust the EQ without adding to the
> > compression.
> >
> > Having re-read your post, are you talking about Omnia.3 vs
>
> > Omnia.3fmt or are you talking about original Omnia.fm (you
>
> > know, first Omnia processor, 4-bands) vs Omnia.3fmt?
> >
> > That's the comparison I'm interested in.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Goran Tomas
> >
> > P.S. Original Omnia looks like this:
> > http://gtomas.no-ip.org/Omnia/Omniafm.jpg
> >
> We have 2 Brand new 3fmt units, one running Rock and one
> CHR, then a Solid Gold format (60's and 70's) Running the
> omnia.fm (4 band AGC low-mid-pres-high, 4 band Limiting
> low-mid-pres-high) I like the vocals on the omnia.fm but
> music isn't as natural as the 3fmt units, and you have to
> squash the (BLEEP) out of it to get it loud.
> also want to mention the DSP_X ver 2.8.best bang for the buck right now for 3 grand.and it's big brother the dsp-extra with buillt in Ariane digital leveler.just darn awesome..did shoot out with the extra and the omnia 6 ex.extra won out with better AGC and half the price of the O6.you can try them on a money back guarantee as i did.don't worry you;ll want to keep it..anyone looking for a O6 with the latest software and barely over 2 years old.let me know..6500.00 takes it home...
> On both the 3 and the turbo I notice gravel on some voices.
> Also found early on, to keep the input as low as possible to
> avoid overdriving the A/D converter with voice peaks.
I agree. Both could be smoother in the vocal range. Turning
the phase rotator OFF will make it smoother overall and
improve music quality. Also, input levels should be kept
below 15db (not run over) to keep it out of the trouble
zone. And I choose to break Omnia's rule of running the
WB AGC high (mine is set to "2") to avoid the squashing
of the overall sound by midrange input on some songs.
In the past I used the Omnia 3FM (non-turbo) and a compellor
with excellent results. I think the compellor is a much
better (smoother) pre-processor than the new WB AGC on
the O3t.
> Also found early on, to keep the input as low as possible to
> avoid overdriving the A/D converter with voice peaks.
I agree. Both could be smoother in the vocal range. Turning
the phase rotator OFF will make it smoother overall and
improve music quality. Also, input levels should be kept
below 15db (not run over) to keep it out of the trouble
zone. And I choose to break Omnia's rule of running the
WB AGC high (mine is set to "2") to avoid the squashing
of the overall sound by midrange input on some songs.
In the past I used the Omnia 3FM (non-turbo) and a compellor
with excellent results. I think the compellor is a much
better (smoother) pre-processor than the new WB AGC on
the O3t.
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