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Omnia One

tjm_pro said:
-- I liked the bass clipper which falls directly after the low band limiter and before the final mixer, this made processing heavy hip hop tracks a bit easier than on the Omnia 3 Turbo.

I think that every single FM processor made after Bob Orban introduced bass clipper in 8100A, uses bass clipping. Omnia.3fmt is no exception, it's just that the bass clipper control (for some reason) isn't available directly to the user...


Regards,
Goran Tomas
 
Thanks Goran.. I always wondered why the bass clipper was not user adjustable on the 03T.. I like the ability to do it on the "ONE", something I couldn't do on the 03T.
 
Hey, Goran!

Yes - Bob was the first to have Bass Clipping in a commercially available product...but I think it was / is a solution that is pretty obvious during disco, and the program content with ever increasing levels of bass audio since that time.

Heck, I was building a very different version into my experimental audio processors for my neighborhood pirate station in the early to mid 1980's long before I had any idea what an Optimod 8100 was!

-C
 
erwin33 said:
Are there sound clips or is there a stream available to hear the new Omnia One?

I do not support processing evaluation via streams or audio clips. Both of these methods exhibit anomolies that will discolor the sound...both good and bad. The *ONLY* acceptable method of evaluating an audio processor is to listen to it, in your own envirnoment.

-Frank Foti
 
I sympathize with you frank about the streams, but on the other hand a few clips in linear audio could give us a idea about the One. These clips could be provided by someone that use the one on-air and he/she may give us information about the environment they were recorded in or Omnia could provide some clips themselves (as orban does in some cases).

I am very curious about this new box, but I don't think it would be fair to test it from one of your distributors here in the Netherlands without any intensions ever buying one.
 
The F Mister said:
I am very curious about this new box, but I don't think it would be fair to test it from one of your distributors here in the Netherlands without any intensions ever buying one.

Awww...just give Ol' Mike a few moments...I'm sure He'll post some examples up there on the processing_clips server along with a side-by-side comparison with his Arianne / 8100 setup. ;-)

Generally, I agree about not judging the performance of a processor based on a recording of what it does. too many variables to try to answer if you find something not too pleasant sounding in the audio file.

-C
 
I'll try to get some clips of our ONE up on the processing clips server within the next week or so..

I just noticed that there's not (or I can't find it) a dayparting featue in this box. Maybe I'm missing something?
 
tjm_pro said:
I just noticed that there's not (or I can't find it) a dayparting featue in this box. Maybe I'm missing something?

I was just thinking the other day, how many stations actually do use dayparting feature?


Regards,
Goran Tomas
 
But I thought this Omnia ONE can also been used for streaming audio, so the quality from a clip or a stream must be good.
 
Currently there are two software versions for the Omnia.One, the FM Stereo and the multicast (coded audio) version. In fact, I believe that you can store two different software versions in the box and switch between the two as needed.

The AM version is from what I hear not too far off.

If someone on the list is using it for streaming audio I'm sure we'll know about it.
 
The F Mister said:
I sympathize with you frank about the streams, but on the other hand a few clips in linear audio could give us a idea about the One. These clips could be provided by someone that use the one on-air and he/she may give us information about the environment they were recorded in or Omnia could provide some clips themselves (as orban does in some cases).

I am very curious about this new box, but I don't think it would be fair to test it from one of your distributors here in the Netherlands without any intensions ever buying one.

Sorry, but I can't agree. Even if you downloaded linear clips, you still will not know the true potential of the box. The setup is practically meaningless, and the sample you hear may, or may not, be to your liking. Fair and honest audio processing demonstration must be done with the unit in your hands, and operating in your own environment, or you will not get a true representation of the product.

-Frank Foti
 
tjm_pro said:
Currently there are two software versions for the Omnia.One, the FM Stereo and the multicast (coded audio) version. In fact, I believe that you can store two different software versions in the box and switch between the two as needed.

The AM version is from what I hear not too far off.

If someone on the list is using it for streaming audio I'm sure we'll know about it.

Gang,

I'll let you in on a little secret. We're shipping all units with *BOTH* processing versions included. You can switch between two memory banks to load the other version. Right now, units are being supplied with FM and Multicast S/W.

-Frank Foti
 
Hey Frank,

Can the LIVEWIRE port be used for either the FM or Multicast?
 
I am astounded that every few months, someone wants to listen to processed audio clips online. Evaluating a processor by listening to clips online is like tasting a cheeseburger with a Quicktime video.
I am not flaming any anyone here but I merely pointing out how silly it is. If you really want to know how it sounds, get a demo unit from a distributer, regardless if you plan to purchase or not. Who knows, maybe when the time comes to get a new box, you will be armed with the correct information.
G
 
Folks,

You “can” provide meaningful processing sample files on the net. But the problem is it’s too much trouble. For one thing, the evaluator must be familiar with the audio to be processed.

This is where you start running into snags. The source material must be in liner .wav format. You can’t expect MP2’s / MP3’s to cut it. The processed sample must also be linear .wav files. As we all know, hard-drive storage is inexpensive. But providing a full length song via the Internet, in linear .wav file format, would take too long to upload / download. It is for these reasons why I can understand Frank’s take on this.

The one site I found where Orban provided processing samples, the files were not offered in the .wav format.

R
 
I think we are all professional enough not to judge a processor by a sample provided by "someone" recorded "somewhere" using "something". But I do think you can get an rough idea about how this box sounds. Shore if you are interested you should take it for a serious test-drive. And compare it in your own situation against other boxes and choose the one (nice marketing Frank ;)) that fits you best.

Come on, if someone is not seriously interested to buy one because (in my case I don't run a radio station) I am still, as an enthusiast, curious for some samples.

If they start judging your audio processors by a sample on the internet I agree with you Frank, I'm shore they won't, and if a box is set up badly and I ask what they are running, and they say "we use an Omnia One". What does this do for your image? You can't rule out every single thing that could set it in a bad daylight. Have a litle faith in us, that's what I mean.
 
Why do we always alternate arguments between whether we should listen to processed clips, and the 'who thinks which processor is best?' Most clips posted are from chains that have been setup by our selfs, and we all think we know our stuff when it comes to processing (or we wouldn't be having this argument).

It's a bit like a car race. Not only are we proud about the car we drive, because we chose it for our own reasons, and we'd like to think we made the right decision after all the A/B comparison bla bla bla. But we all think we're pretty good drivers too. After all, who would buy a $10000 processor without hearing it on THEIR station 1st...would you buy a car then find out it doesn't fit in the garage?.

This 'uploading clip' thing is good FUN. It's more of a competitive thing between the engineers that have set them up than a 'I'm going to buy a processor, I'll buy one based on the clips I download'. Who cares if they're mp3? I can still tell what sounds cool.

For Frank and Bobs piece of mind, has anyone decided not to buy a BMW or Merc because of the clips or comments they've downloaded here? I don't think so.
 
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