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rl45401

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Hey guys...we still do not have an engineer so i need your expertise!

We have an Audioarts R-60 console. We have an on-air light that needs to be hooked up. As simple as possible IF possible. How would I go about connecting this! Thanks guys!
 
The typical "on-air" light uses a 110 volt AC light bulb. Not that familiar with the R-60 console, but many recent consoles use a warning light circuit that consists of a transistor that is "pulled to ground" when the appropriate mike channel is switched on. Whatever you do, don't try to hook the warning light directly to this circuit. You will let the magic smoke out. This circuit can't handle much current, and is usually designed for low D.C. voltages--12, maybe 24 volts. Not 110 volts AC. It is intended to be used with a relay or solid state switch which then turns on the warning light.

There used to be a company that made a packaged solid state relay for this purpose, but a quick internet search doesn't find much. Therein lies the problem for someone without technical skills. My R-55-E is connected to a solid state relay for the warning light. A 12 volt wall wart powers the SS relay, the positive lead goes to the positive terminal of the solid state relay, the negative terminal of the relay to the control lead from the console's warning circuit, and the negative or ground lead of the supply to the console's DC ground circuit. The "hot" lead or black wire from the 110 circuit for the warning light goes to one connection on the switch side of the solid state switch, while the black wire from the light goes to the other connection. The white, or neutral wires from the AC circuit and switch are permanently connected together.

On my Auditronics 2500 series console, I built a box with a 24 volt supply, and a 24 volt relay that is used to turn the warning light on and off. The relay's contacts are rated for 110 volts at 5 amps, much more than the light will ever draw.

Every console is slightly different, but there may be dip switches or jumpers that need to be connected to determine which channel turns the warning light circuit on.

The warning light circuit controls a transistor in the console, where there is a low voltage signal routed to the base lead of this transistor. When this happens, the transistor "turns on." In my circuit with the solid state relay, current from the wall wart then flows through this transistor to ground causing the solid state switch to turn on. This allows the much larger current from the AC circuit to flow into the warning light, and the light --lights. Since the solid state switch is nothing more than a big transistor, it gets rather warm from the 40 watts my warning light uses, so it is mounted in a metal utility box on the opposite side of the wall from the warning light. This also keeps the AC wiring covered up. In this particular studio, I had to use the Panduit surface mount type metal raceway to get electric up to the light; 22 gauge wire run through a different path is used to control the SS relay. Some jurisdictions would require a different method, and installation by an electrician.

As you can see, not exactly a project for someone without some wiring experience.
 
Talking about On Air Lights... I'm going to make an on air light with about 160 3mm LEDs wich will be feeded with straight 220v ac current.

I'll need to learn how to make a relay circuit to interface the On Air light with my Harris Stereo 80 console.
 
I've used LED truck brake lights to replace 120 volt lamps in Fidelipac on air lights and they do a nice job. Remove the existing lamp sockets and mount an "oval" red light in the bottom of the box, firing up into the white reflector to diffuse the beam. A 12 volt / 1 amp wall wart makes a suitable power supply and can plug right into a Superelay. You can fish low-voltage wire through the wall and not worry about replacing bulbs every year.
 
rl45401 said:
techie2 said:
Chuck said:
Try a Henry Engineering "Super Relay." http://www.henryeng.com/superelay.html It is simple to install and it works.

Another option would be this:
http://www.furmansound.com/product.php?div=01&id=MP-15

The furman is cheaper and looks to be a better bet. Could anyone guide me with this!

I think you just have to provide a closure to ground on the proper pins on the Furman's terminal strip and then the outlet comes on. Plug your on-air warning light into the outlet. (The same is true for the Superelay, it has a plug-in outlet on it.) You should be able to get this contact closure from the On-Air relay in your console. In the R-60 it's on an accessory connector.

Is that a zip code in your username? If it's near me, I might be able to help. Just send me an email off-list.
 
For Christmas my wife bought me a cast metal reproduction of the 1950s era RCA ON AIR light.

It looked nice enough with the lights glowing, but I had to complicate it somhow, right?
Same problem, I had no relay ready at hand.

I still had no proper switch for a mic, but was using the pot on the mixer, and I had nothing to mute the air monitor.
Tore out the night-lignt bulbs and sockets, and put in 2 1157 clear bulbs and 2 1157 red bulbs (12 volt auto bulbs) on separate circuits.
Found a 25 volt center tapped transformer, fed the CT to the commons on both bulb circuits. Took one side of the 12 volts to the center pole of a 4-pole relay. When off it feeds to clear bulb contact, moves to power up red bulbs on relay operation.
Used the lows on the clears and the "brake light" on the reds. This way sign gets to be on all the time and goes red when the mike is open.
If I were crazy I'd have a carrier monitor only light the up clear bulbs when the carrier's on, but that would be overkill.

Another normally open contact, upon power up, connects the output of the mike mixer into the audio chain.
Yet another contact closure is used to reduce monitor audio by about 15 db by a "partial short" of 20 or so ohms ( a wee rheostat ).

I take the same 25 volts, use a rectifier and electrolytic for 24v DC to switch on and on off the same relay.
The switch I picked is an old fashinoned mecury-bulb light switch, which is silent in operation ( relay's not too bad).
I expected some hum, but used opposite ends of the mini relay for 12v AC and the audio. There were no hum issues at all!

It's definitely nice to have all those things happening at once. Too bad I can't link it to the "voice over" button in Zara.
 
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