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On AM 1550 and AM 830(For engineers)

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ElmoreGantry

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There really hasnt been any discussion on either of these 2 stations coming to this area. The last I read on this board and through other publications and the FCC website, one will be a religious station and the other tbd. Is Am 830 actually moving to the Memphis area, or are they still haveing problems with the tower location and the city of license? I am aware that a Texas businessman has the interests of building AM 1550 as a religious station. But just looking at this from a jocks standpoint, wouldnt it cost millions just to build the tower site and still have minimal coverage? I think the max you can run a station on that frequency is 1000 watts.
 
> There really hasnt been any discussion on either of these 2
> stations coming to this area. The last I read on this board
> and through other publications and the FCC website, one will
> be a religious station and the other tbd. Is Am 830 actually
> moving to the Memphis area, or are they still haveing
> problems with the tower location and the city of license? I
> am aware that a Texas businessman has the interests of
> building AM 1550 as a religious station. But just looking at
> this from a jocks standpoint, wouldnt it cost millions just
> to build the tower site and still have minimal coverage? I
> think the max you can run a station on that frequency is
> 1000 watts.
>

I don't know the specifics, but to answer your question at the end...With the new folded unipole AM antennas which fit on existing towers and the solid-state transmitters, I can think of a number of ways to put on a 1KW AM station for well under a million, especially if it's not going to be local. 1KW AM transmitters fit on a tabletop now. Add a PC, rent space on someone's tower, and there you go. About the only thing you could do with it is some sort of religious format, but it's certainly possible.

And of course we're all dying for more low power AM stations around here.<P ID="signature">______________
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> Is Am 830 actually
> moving to the Memphis area, or are they still haveing
> problems with the tower location and the city of license?

We don't know if it's coming yet.

The application is still pending at the Commission, so only time will tell. The application does show a transmitter site, so I don't know if that's a big issue.

10kw Daytime. Sounds religious to me.

> I am aware that a Texas businessman has the interests of
> building AM 1550 as a religious station. But just looking at
> this from a jocks standpoint, wouldnt it cost millions just
> to build the tower site and still have minimal coverage? I
> think the max you can run a station on that frequency is
> 1000 watts.

The application for Germantown is still pending, too. No CP yet. Applicant's name is BRET D. HUGGINS, who lives in San Antonio. His company, E-String Wireless, Ltd., is the applicant for several FM translators, mainly in the Plains States. I smell religion!

And, yes, it would cost a chunk to build this one out. Night is a 6-tower array, which, besides the engineering headaches, takes a bunch of real estate. Fortunately, it's high on the band, so the shorter towers take up a bit less space. 1/4 wave is only about 150' high. Radials to make a ground plane would be the same.

Now, as far as coverage. No, 1kw is not the cap on power on 1550. 1550 is a clear channel (note... not the proper noun!). 50kw is possible, if one can fit it in. In the past, there was a 50kw day/10kw night station in Jackson, MS on frequency (who remembers WOKJ, home of "Hillbilly Willy" in the late 1980s? Yeeee-haw.). It has faded, though, into the mists of radio history.

This application is for 2kw day, and 250w at night. So, the day signal will probably cover Memphis OK; nights will be a bit tough, outside the favorable lobe (which, with 6 towers, could be tight).

It may well be quite some time before 1550 gets on.

DE
 
A 6-tower array, eh?

I take it all back (the previous post). It will cost as much for just the engineering studies as it would to put on my aforementioned 1 KW nondirectional station...

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> About the
> only thing you could do with it is some sort of religious
> format, but it's certainly possible.
>
> And of course we're all dying for more low power AM stations
> around here.
>

PLEASE, no more Dollar a Holler stations!
 
> > About the
> > only thing you could do with it is some sort of religious
> > format, but it's certainly possible.
> >
> > And of course we're all dying for more low power AM
> stations
> > around here.
> >
>
> PLEASE, no more Dollar a Holler stations!
>

Ya know, it's amazing to me one of the larger churches like Bellevue hasn't bought an AM station as an outlet.

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> > > About the
> > > only thing you could do with it is some sort of
> religious
> > > format, but it's certainly possible.
> > >
> > > And of course we're all dying for more low power AM
> > stations
> > > around here.
> > >
> >
> > PLEASE, no more Dollar a Holler stations!
> >
>
> Ya know, it's amazing to me one of the larger churches like
> Bellevue hasn't bought an AM station as an outlet.
>

I think that if Bellevue was to buy a radio station, they'd be better than WMQM or WLRM for sure. I'd think they'd lean toward the same lineup of programs like WCRV carries. I don't think that they'd expect everyone to agree with Adrian Rogers or Steve Gaines, their soon to be new pastor on side issues, but I definitely think they would stay from the Word of Faith or prophecy/conspriacy oriented type programs that WMQM is loaded with. They'd probably not shy away from real issues, but they wouldn't be attacking people over what Bible translation they use either. But since WCRV carries most of the same programs they probably would, would they ever actually need to buy a station?<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by ccmfan on 08/04/05 04:29 AM.</FONT></P>
 
> would they
> ever actually need to buy a station?
>

Of course not. Who needs a radio station when you have congress and the president preaching for you? Besides, WCRV covers everything that WREC misses. Don't forget Fox. I'd say they're covered.<P ID="signature">______________
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> I think that if Bellevue was to buy a radio station, they'd
> be better than WMQM or WLRM for sure. I'd think they'd lean
> toward the same lineup of programs like WCRV carries. I
> don't think that they'd expect everyone to agree with Adrian
> Rogers or Steve Gaines, their soon to be new pastor on side
> issues, but I definitely think they would stay from the Word
> of Faith or prophecy/conspriacy oriented type programs that
> WMQM is loaded with. They'd probably not shy away from real
> issues, but they wouldn't be attacking people over what
> Bible translation they use either. But since WCRV carries
> most of the same programs they probably would, would they
> ever actually need to buy a station?
>

From my past experiences with WMQM, let's see, how do I say this...

Their God may be a little more green than they let on.


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>
> Of course not. Who needs a radio station when you have
> congress and the president preaching for you?


You're right! It's a refreshing change from interns and stains.

(I'll regret posting this)



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Careful, he thinks "SPRINGER IS GOD"! When dealing directly with Desechado, it's good to keep Garlic and/or a wooden stake. He's a token liberal, frequently seen around Beale, check it out... Try to avoid direct eye contact!!! ARRRR!

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> Careful, he thinks "SPRINGER IS GOD"! When dealing directly
> with Desechado, it's good to keep Garlic and/or a wooden
> stake. He's a token liberal, frequently seen around Beale,
> check it out... Try to avoid direct eye contact!!! ARRRR!
>
Yeah, its ok sometimes. Al Franken sounds ok but tired sometimes. Randi Rhodes is really good,especially when on a rant.
 
> Careful, he thinks "SPRINGER IS GOD"! When dealing directly
> with Desechado, it's good to keep Garlic and/or a wooden
> stake. He's a token liberal, frequently seen around Beale,
> check it out... Try to avoid direct eye contact!!! ARRRR!
>


Hey, is that The Listener?

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> Hey, is that The Listener?
>
Yup, that's a totally unaltered pic. We spotted him at Beale Street Music Fest! That would be him... CFKane
 
> > Hey, is that The Listener?
> >
> Yup, that's a totally unaltered pic. We spotted him at
> Beale Street Music Fest! That would be him... CFKane
>

Well, I'm sure you're glad he got a diary!

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> > I think that if Bellevue was to buy a radio station,
> they'd
> > be better than WMQM or WLRM for sure. I'd think they'd
> lean
> > toward the same lineup of programs like WCRV carries. I
> > don't think that they'd expect everyone to agree with
> Adrian
> > Rogers or Steve Gaines, their soon to be new pastor on
> side
> > issues, but I definitely think they would stay from the
> Word
> > of Faith or prophecy/conspriacy oriented type programs
> that
> > WMQM is loaded with. They'd probably not shy away from
> real
> > issues, but they wouldn't be attacking people over what
> > Bible translation they use either. But since WCRV carries
> > most of the same programs they probably would, would they
> > ever actually need to buy a station?
> >
>
> From my past experiences with WMQM, let's see, how do I say
> this...
>
> Their God may be a little more green than they let on.
>

I knew that fom the time they dropped CCM in the early 80's and went to the Dollar a Holler format when they were on 1480. :-(
 
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