On The Corner of Consultant & Vine.

[Scooter Lesley]

...and the memo from the mail tray read: Our Consultant will not be here on Tuesday, per last memo, but his new apprentice will. He will be here Tuesday thru Friday. We will need to pick him up at the airport at 11am. Now, fresh from college, and flung head over ass into hallowed halls of a Big Stick FM. What could trans here?
Maybe some of you have also starred in a movie like this. For others, the non-broadcast, that read these posts, I'll sub-title: "Why Are The Playlists So Small?" For listeners, the age old question of curiousity, not knowing how...how they get shortened. Example: Rock 101's original playlist was 3200+ songs. Since '87, a long list of Vine Swingin' Edit Monkey Consultants have had access to the Selector delete button. Songs get deleted, and lists get shorter, due to these Boobs not knowing the music of the format they were hired to Consult.
Prime songs deleted, yet today, Sat Radio has them in their rotations.
So, I ask...who do you think is correct?

 

[freqdev]

all those words to ask that question? sat radio doesn't care what you think. they already have your money

 

[Scooter Lesley]

Well,...once again, Freq-boob ol' boy you've painted yourself in a corner. I don't subscribe to Sat Radio. They might have your money, but...they don't have mine! (nice try!)

 

[MarkSC]

94% of the audience is like you. They don't subscribe to satellite radio. Which begs the question: why do you talk about it so much?

 

[Scooter Lesley]

Well,...MarkSC...apparently someone has handed you the paintbrush, and you have also chosen a corner. Satellite has millions of subscribers, and more on the way because the auto industry is behind the push. The idea of someone paying money for Radio didn't make any sense, when the free product was worth listening to. However, when you factor-in how bad Commecial Radio has become, you have those willing(more than willing) to pay, if they can get what they want. So, now the small expense is like that of the cell bill; not only wanted, but needed! The edit monkeys, that I spoke of, are to blame for the small, repetitive, overly re-done(toasted)-dunt playlists that have led to the publics bail on Commercial Radio. So, I ask, regarding any format,...and let's use WROQ: Compare Rock 101 to a Classic Rock channel on the Sat. If you had to bet it all...all that you own...the whole damn ranch on which one was being Programmed correctly...WHERE WOULD YOU PUT Y0UR MONEY?

 

[snailboy]

The free product is not worth listening to. I have satellite radio in my car and love it. Local radio has taken a big hit since the Telecom Act. I don't listen to local radio here in Atlanta, GA at all. When I visit Columbia,SC I listen very little to local radio. The product may return in time but with all the choices I have satellite radio is my way to go.

 

[freqdev]

i could not agree more. people who pay four dollars for a cup of starbucks coffee convince themselves that it tastes better because they paid four dollars for it. although scooter does not pay for satellite radio, he assumes that radio that people pay for is programmed better. satellite radio is programmed by ex broadcast programmers who bought their music research from the previous job with them. if i paid for satellite radio i would think it sounded better too. the 4 channels i listened to and the 200 i didn't.

 

[ncscradiogeek]

I used to subscribe to Sat radio and dropped it.
Now I subscribe to Pandora, Slacker and Spotify for almost the same money I was paying for Sat radio. The reason for the change is Pandora, Slacker and Spotify allow me to do my own music research.

 

[Scooter Lesley]

Well,..(I don't know why, but) it's always left up to me to correct the Oafings of those that Post, before properly Mulling things over.
Freqdev,...Starbucks get $4 a cup because their coffee is indeed worth the price for those willing to pay, +plus the convien-e-ence therein. The customer is willing to pay! Satellite Radio is, without question, (programmed) better than Commecial Radio. The customer is willing to pay...Millions of'em! However, I, myself, make better coffee than Starbucks, so I don't buy theirs. Satellite Radio is better than Commercial Radio by defalt. Commercial Radio lost their ground by allowing the edit monkeys to deplete their otherwise large playlists.
It all could be corrected,...+plus Commercial Radio can be...LOCAL!
It is a Battle yet to come. Also, do you remember when Commecial Radio foolishly accepted Agency buys to advertise both XM, and Sirus. Yeah, took the money, added it to the monthy Billing, and never saw the train comin' down the track! It's just the TRUTH!

 

[MarkSC]

I'd say it's you who has painted himself into a corner, Scoot. "Satellite radio", "Satellite radio", "Satellite radio"! Oh, by the way, "they don't have MY money".

That's the point. They don't have the money of the vast majority of the listening audience. You'd do better to be talking about Pandora or Spotify. At least they're showing impressive audience growth.

 

[Gatekeeper007]

Do radio stations play the top 40 songs too much, now there a laugh if you even have to ask that question today, answer you bet most of them do no matter what the reason is it sucks. Just a few weeks back we had someone come to join our station and their first advice was to drop all our Bluegrass music and most of our traditional country music. I stopped went back thru our listener stats for the station double checked everything thought about it and adviced him that we did not wish to sound like most every other station on the dail that had their preset formats. He moved on to look for another station to advise on how to improve their format. Had I listened to him we stood a good chance of loosing 3/4 of our listening audience, True we sound different but we keep a large listenership and that is what we want.

 

[freqdev]

scooter you say that satellite radio without question is programmed better. i question that because they don't have your money. if you can't listen to it how can you possibly know? i had satellite radio and cancelled the service and dont miss it. i can tell you it is not programmed better and many of the channels are not full bandwidth. some like it for different reasons, but their subscribers are a small percentage of people listening to radio. people don't perceive anything that is free of having any quality or value, but like the starbucks coffee it has to be better because you paid 4 dollars for it. its all perception. i will agree with you that local radio could be better.

 

[Scooter Lesley]

Well,...apparently, we have a small wicker basket full of non-believers...that Scootamus here...has not done his homework, and therefor we have to suffer through the reading of some premature posting. One of which is completely Perk-plexed in full Caffeeeeeeen Confusion that Starbuck's $4 cup of coffee is not premium sippage. Regardless to the price, and whether or not one decides to pull their purchasing trigger, the product is everything that it is advertised to be. I make stovetop coffee as good or (to me) better than their's for peenies a pot. My dee-scription of the perkin' pre-scription is simple: "A great cup of coffee should taste...like burnt country ham smells.". Another assumes that I am unaware of Pandora or even Groove Shark. How can I say that Sat Radio is Programmed better than Commercial Radio, when I don't subscribe. I guess it never accured to that Boob...that all of my friends, and two neighbors have Sat, So...I have enjoyed many of hours of free listening, as they pointed out to me, all the best channels. Other than that, my Ipod supplies my ear candy;...it's just not loud enough.
So,...as I sit here at the keyboard, sippin' (sip'em if you got'em!) this fine, HAWTT cup of Scooter Brew, I'll lay it out again: Currently, Rock 101 WROQ is a Programming failure....just Awww-ful! One does not have to reach, squint, or even pay money to stand with my opinion. Therefor, by defalt, anything Rock channel on the Sat...can easily SATisfy!

 

[Gatekeeper007]

Since this subject seems to cover a wide range I have often wondered why you can steer a lot of the general public to listen to certain singers/groups since their The In Thing but yet you can't steer them to listen on broadcast radio just ipods, cell phones, satellite radio, ect... It seems to me if you can steer a certain amount of listeners to listen to what you want them to that you could also steer them to listen how you want them to, just make it seem popular and the in thing if this really works. Also I wonder how long kids of today that listen to ipods, cell phones, ect... will keep listening to crappy sounding music on little speakers that just don't sound good. My oldest son (25) is an ipod, cell phone listener with dozen or so of his friends but a few months back they were all doing some work classes at the station for a few weeks during which they played their music on a Zenith home stereo system (wooden cabnet, big speakers, 1975 model). Now all of them are complaining about the sound quality on their ipod's, cell phones, ect... when not hooked to a docking station while a few of their friends that were not in this class and haven't heard anything but ipod's, cell phones ect... can't figure out what their talking about.

 

[Scooter Lesley]

Ahhhh...yes, I can still see the flashing red light, and here that repeitive sound..."Warning,...warning...a lower primate approaches!".
Everytime we were visited by The Consultant. The standard was both eat, and lodge on trade, be denied the GM's car, and the playlist would shrink, due to him not knowing the music of our format. It was either "I don't think that our audience knows this song or This song didn't test well.". No more airplay for any of the cuts from Foghat's Best album. Also, deleted...a landmark single from David Bowie.
Recently, (4/21) that song was held in a National limelight, which prooooooves what Boob he truly was. EDIT MONKEYS!
It was like hiring a plumber, that had never fixed a toilet!