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once great stations that are now jokes!
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Steven21 said:
Hear, hear...
louisville, kentucky 840 WHAS
it used to be a 50000 watt community blowtorch station. there are 13 hours of local programming, however only 5 are call-in shows, and 2 of those are on a sports talk show, the only local call in show on that station after 12 pm. it has gone from a station everyone programmed in their car radios automatically without question or explanation needed to one that is a virtually a 24 hour conservative outlet where you could hear the same opinions and lineup in a place like cleveland. this has nothing to do with political ideology. they don't offer any liberal programs on the program schedule. but i still could have listened to the station (except from 12-3p) because it was local. my listening dropped severely when they fired the local overnight talk host (while not made official, my take on the incident was that he made too much money) for a tape-delayed syndicated hatemonger named michael "savage" weiner. it does not feel local anymore- the news is now virtually fox news at the top and bottom with some local updates afterwards.
in addition they made a business decision to air university of kentucky (located 80 miles east) games with priority over university of louisville games two years earlier, which was the last straw with me. firing the local overnight guy was a very unpopular decision and that move shifting priority took effect the same year. when you see the ratings books, most likely these are the results of those class of people who turn the radio on and leave it on all day.
the only reason i still listen to that station is because university of louisville games still air there, but i really hope that uofl just moves all its games to the overflow station when there is a conflict and has nothing to do with WHAS anymore.
it used to be a 50000 watt community blowtorch station. there are 13 hours of local programming, however only 5 are call-in shows, and 2 of those are on a sports talk show, the only local call in show on that station after 12 pm. it has gone from a station everyone programmed in their car radios automatically without question or explanation needed to one that is a virtually a 24 hour conservative outlet where you could hear the same opinions and lineup in a place like cleveland. this has nothing to do with political ideology. they don't offer any liberal programs on the program schedule. but i still could have listened to the station (except from 12-3p) because it was local. my listening dropped severely when they fired the local overnight talk host (while not made official, my take on the incident was that he made too much money) for a tape-delayed syndicated hatemonger named michael "savage" weiner. it does not feel local anymore- the news is now virtually fox news at the top and bottom with some local updates afterwards.
in addition they made a business decision to air university of kentucky (located 80 miles east) games with priority over university of louisville games two years earlier, which was the last straw with me. firing the local overnight guy was a very unpopular decision and that move shifting priority took effect the same year. when you see the ratings books, most likely these are the results of those class of people who turn the radio on and leave it on all day.
the only reason i still listen to that station is because university of louisville games still air there, but i really hope that uofl just moves all its games to the overflow station when there is a conflict and has nothing to do with WHAS anymore.
Firebird said:
As opposed to when it wasn't a joke?
KFMB-AM 760 and KOGO-AM 600 in San Diego.
These stations are mere ghosts of their former greatness.
99% syndicated programming now and a lot of automation.
KFMB-AM these days has its prominence on the amount of automation errors (sound on sound, a lot of dead air).
These stations are mere ghosts of their former greatness.
99% syndicated programming now and a lot of automation.
KFMB-AM these days has its prominence on the amount of automation errors (sound on sound, a lot of dead air).
Steven21 said:
The "#1 market" is now just a place where you audition to get syndicated.
livingfruitvirus said:
Audition?
Where?
NYC is now just a place where syndicated shows broadcast from. The millions of local residents, unlike their smaller town counteroparts, have NO outlet anywhere on terrestrial radio to discuss the many local issues that face that massive metro area.
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WIOD Miami.
Once an amazing station, especially under Cox. Now, but down to crap by CC. New people sound like they are 15 years old.
If they didnt have the heritage, they wouldnt have any ratings.
Once an amazing station, especially under Cox. Now, but down to crap by CC. New people sound like they are 15 years old.
If they didnt have the heritage, they wouldnt have any ratings.
WOR-AM and WPHT-AM. Stations just like networks need to think of themselves as unique content providers and branch out of the normal "over the air" delivery. Radio needs to think bigger in order to grow revenue. Right now, terrestrial radio is trying to protect any ad dollar coming in...they need to be more aggressive in building a platform that encourages advertisers and listeners to check out the programming online, thru podcasts and over the air. The only way to do that is thru better programming. If cable TV outlets can survive and be profitable with thousands of outlets, then so can radio if programmed right.
Steven21 said:
Back in the 60s, when WABC was getting double digit shares, they didn't allow their airwaves to be used for discussion of local issues. It was highly controlled Top 40 hits 24/7.
I think we assume that local discussion on the airwaves is something that is supposed to happen. It's not.
Interesting that these are all AM stations that are considered "jokes." Which should be no surprise to anyone. The sun set on the AM band for the most part over 30 years ago. Sure perhaps there's still one powerhouse AM station that still attracts listeners, strictly for news and talk. But how many stations do you need covering the same news or airing the same talk shows? This is not a content issue or a reinvention issue. Better programming is not going to bring listeners back to AM. There is really nothing that radio itself can do to fix AM any more. It's time has passed, and it's time to let it go.
TheBigA said:
Problem is, thanks to incredibly poor business decisions, the industry is hastening the exodus of cume by degrading programming.
It seem like they can't chase listeners away or deter future growth fast enough.
Yes, they have saved money in the short term, but the future is pretty dark. A LOT darker than it needs to be.
Steven21 said:
"Hastening?" The body has been on life support for 30 years. This is the longest death watch since Generalissimo Ferdinand Franco.
The fact, however, is that the majority of AM stations are owned by small owners, not the big companies. That's why they suck. The ones owned by CBS, Entercom, and CC are the few bright lights left on the dial. The government is hastening its demise by lack of leadership. No surprise there.
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