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One of the best CHR years

Jeremy Andrews said:
KIIS went rhythmic when they moved, fired Rick Dees and hired Ryan Seacrest.

WKSC Chicago sounds like a ripoff of KIIS and WKQI ever since they fired Rod Phillips and hired Rick Gillette (From the LA area) and WKQI's PD for consulting. No Hinder, no Snow Patrol, nothing else but a bunch of rhythmic and The Fray and Cartel tossed in. Thats not CHR in my books. Its wannabe rhythmic CHR

Never in my life after 2003 I thought I would end up saying this but WXSS sounds about 10 times better then WKSC right now both in sound quality, and playlist.


I stick with XM for CHR personally. 20 On 20 and Hitlist are pretty good.

Spot on, Jeremy... KIIS is NOT CHR/Pop right now... they shouldn't even be on that panel as they no longer fit the definition of a CHR/Pop station.
 
john77 said:
Jeremy Andrews said:
KIIS went rhythmic when they moved, fired Rick Dees and hired Ryan Seacrest.

WKSC Chicago sounds like a ripoff of KIIS and WKQI ever since they fired Rod Phillips and hired Rick Gillette (From the LA area) and WKQI's PD for consulting. No Hinder, no Snow Patrol, nothing else but a bunch of rhythmic and The Fray and Cartel tossed in. Thats not CHR in my books. Its wannabe rhythmic CHR

Never in my life after 2003 I thought I would end up saying this but WXSS sounds about 10 times better then WKSC right now both in sound quality, and playlist.


I stick with XM for CHR personally. 20 On 20 and Hitlist are pretty good.

Spot on, Jeremy... KIIS is NOT CHR/Pop right now... they shouldn't even be on that panel as they no longer fit the definition of a CHR/Pop station.

The fact that they play Panic! AT The Disco and My Chemical Romance is just enough to get away with. But otherwise they're Rhythmic CHR.
 
I think it's fine having KIIS-FM on the planel, but I wouldn't mind seeing another CHR, run by a different company, launched in L.A.
Then again I'd like to see a CHR/Pop station being launched in San Francisco, Denver, Norfolk, Baltimore, Vegas, etc.

Chicago? I don't think that market can handle more than one CHR right now, and Kiss FM has tried almost every approach (Rhythmic leaning, recurrent friendly, fairly balanced, etc.). Jeremy, perhaps the station is just constantly evolving its sound as its core female audience's tastes constantly evolve.
Remember, they are going head to head with Rhythmic CHR B-96. As the Killer B has mainstream a bit over the past year it might have influenced Kiss to also go a bit more in their direction.
 
CHRles said:
I think it's fine having KIIS-FM on the planel, but I wouldn't mind seeing another CHR, run by a different company, launched in L.A.
Then again I'd like to see a CHR/Pop station being launched in San Francisco, Denver, Norfolk, Baltimore, Vegas, etc.

Chicago? I don't think that market can handle more than one CHR right now, and Kiss FM has tried almost every approach (Rhythmic leaning, recurrent friendly, fairly balanced, etc.). Jeremy, perhaps the station is just constantly evolving its sound as its core female audience's tastes constantly evolve.
Remember, they are going head to head with Rhythmic CHR B-96. As the Killer B has mainstream a bit over the past year it might have influenced Kiss to also go a bit more in their direction.

WKIE/WKIF/WDEK "92 KISS FM" (the station that WKSC forced into flipping to Energy) was usually either very balanced or rock leaning and they even managed to crack a 2 share once on 3 rimshot signals. WKSC had a rhythmic edge from the beginning and it took WKSC almost 5 years to make a 3 on a full signal.


B96 has gone EVEN MORE mainstream back in 2002 (They were basically CHR with Nickelback, Creed, Vanessa Carlton, Avril Lavigne, and even The Goo Goo Dolls in rotation) Kiss did nothing.

They are being consulted by WKQI's PD and it sounds very similar to WKQI. Thats why I think it sounds the way it does now.

Sorry if none of this makes any sense. I just woke up.
 
Russ said:
I'll have to disagree with Jeremy as well.

CHR is at it's prime now... more than any time in the past 10 years. Telepopmuzik and the other flops mentioned are not signs of anything good from 2001. Maybe you liked it because it was "different." The fact is, when CHR can be successful with songs exclusive to the format, thing are working. And just because Hot AC plays it, doesn't mean it's not exclusive to CHR. You can consider Fergie exclusive to the format, even though some hot AC's, rhythmics, and even urbans play her. That even shows the power of CHR when WE are breaking the music. Urban stations are grabbing our music (Justin, Fergie, Gwen, Nelly Furtado), after we've proven it.

I count about 20 of the top 40 that I consider CHR exclusive artists. Pretty good if you ask me.

I have to disagree with all of you, I think CHR fell fall 2005. Summer 2006 had minor improvement.

And Telepopmusik was early 2003, not 2001.
 
spongebag7890 said:
Russ said:
I'll have to disagree with Jeremy as well.

CHR is at it's prime now... more than any time in the past 10 years. Telepopmuzik and the other flops mentioned are not signs of anything good from 2001. Maybe you liked it because it was "different." The fact is, when CHR can be successful with songs exclusive to the format, thing are working. And just because Hot AC plays it, doesn't mean it's not exclusive to CHR. You can consider Fergie exclusive to the format, even though some hot AC's, rhythmics, and even urbans play her. That even shows the power of CHR when WE are breaking the music. Urban stations are grabbing our music (Justin, Fergie, Gwen, Nelly Furtado), after we've proven it.

I count about 20 of the top 40 that I consider CHR exclusive artists. Pretty good if you ask me.

I have to disagree with all of you, I think CHR fell fall 2005. Summer 2006 had minor improvement.

And Telepopmusik was early 2003, not 2001.

Telepopmusik was among the last songs added before WXSS took the most drastic playlist turn in their history. That was February 2003.
 
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