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Only 1 HD Station in LI?

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Barry

I am not in Long Island, but can receive many of the stations very well. The only one I can currently pick up in HD is WBAB FM.
I had also received WALK FM in HD along with its HD2 called Long Island Country. But over the past few days, it has not been broadcasting in HD, as far as I can tell. It is not uncommon for stations to have technical problems with their HD equipment. So the HD may return. But the small mention of LI Country on their website is the only broken link on the page. http://walkradio.com/cc-common/mainheadlines3.html?feed=269895&article=3639247
HDRadio.com states that WQBU FM broadcasts in HD. But I believe they switched it off years ago, shortly after they became a Regional Mexican station. WBLI is also listed as broadcasting in HD, but I have never had any indication of this on my HD radio, despite receiving a strong signal from it.
So is WBAB currently the only HD signal in all of Long Island, one of the country's larger markets?
 
Last I checked, WBAB, WHFM, WALK and WBLI are all HD. WLIU was, but I believe it is off now.
 
butchfm said:
Barry...don't know if this helps you..go to www.radiotime.com

put in zip 11741 it will list all Long Island stations and more and the HD's..
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I tried that. While it lists the HD2 stations, it does not indicate whether a station is broadcasting in HD if it does not have an HD2. And I question whether their list is up to date.
For example, though I am some distance from WALK, I used to be able to pick it up in HD. In the past few weeks, I've tried several times. There has been no indication from my radio that it is currently using HD.
BTW, I did not know that WKCI from New Haven is broadcasting Club Phusion on HD2. That is Clear Channel's national dance music station.
 
It would be nice if WHLI 1100AM was broadcasting in HD on their AM frequency, as well as on one of their sister FM frequencies like WKJY 98.3.
WHLI could probably more than double their ratings.

If they broadcast on one of their FM sister stations would WHLI have to file for a 24 hour license?







Thanks,
Kevin L. Sealy
 
Kevin L. Sealy said:
It would be nice if WHLI 1100AM was broadcasting in HD on their AM frequency,
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How would that help their ratings? On the contrary, it would drive listeners away -- annoyed at the obnoxious background hiss and reduced analog bandwith.

There's probably what....maybe 10 people across our fair Island that have HD capable radios? :D :D :D
 
StephanieNYC said:
Kevin L. Sealy said:
It would be nice if WHLI 1100AM was broadcasting in HD on their AM frequency,
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How would that help their ratings? On the contrary, it would drive listeners away -- annoyed at the obnoxious background hiss and reduced analog bandwith.

There's probably what....maybe 10 people across our fair Island that have HD capable radios? :D :D :D
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I bought a Zune HD and I can safely say it wasn't a "good deal more" like the ads said on WALK. Could someone explain to me why Cox Radio or any radio company would broadcast in HD and not make a sub station?
 
Manic_Monkey said:
StephanieNYC said:
Kevin L. Sealy said:
It would be nice if WHLI 1100AM was broadcasting in HD on their AM frequency,
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How would that help their ratings? On the contrary, it would drive listeners away -- annoyed at the obnoxious background hiss and reduced analog bandwith.

There's probably what....maybe 10 people across our fair Island that have HD capable radios? :D :D :D
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I bought a Zune HD and I can safely say it wasn't a "good deal more" like the ads said on WALK. Could someone explain to me why Cox Radio or any radio company would broadcast in HD and not make a sub station?
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Cox doesn't have an HD-2 on WPLR New Haven either. I'm guessing the chain is content to do things on the cheap whenever possible and setting up another station, even if it's just an automated broom-closet operation, would be bad for the bottom line. Clear Channel, OTOH, has been a big booster of HD Radio from the beginning, so thier stations always haveat least an HD-2.
 
Manic_Monkey said:
I bought a Zune HD and I can safely say it wasn't a "good deal more" like the ads said on WALK. Could someone explain to me why Cox Radio or any radio company would broadcast in HD and not make a sub station?
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Because every time a side-channel goes on, it takes away from the bandwidth of the rest of the channels, making the audio quality poorer. An HD station gets 96kbps to broadcast with their channel -- when you split in half, then the HD1 & HD2 get 48kbps. When you start slicing the pie thinner, it gets worse (although most HD1s seem to go no lower than 48kbps, with the HD2s & HD3s dividing up the remaining bandwidth). You can hear the difference, and the lower the bandwidth, the more the station sounds like a really bad MP3 or a low-bandwidth Internet station and not so much with the "crystal-clear HD sound" those commercials advertise.
 
RockTheGlobe said:
Manic_Monkey said:
I bought a Zune HD and I can safely say it wasn't a "good deal more" like the ads said on WALK. Could someone explain to me why Cox Radio or any radio company would broadcast in HD and not make a sub station?
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Because every time a side-channel goes on, it takes away from the bandwidth of the rest of the channels, making the audio quality poorer. An HD station gets 96kbps to broadcast with their channel -- when you split in half, then the HD1 & HD2 get 48kbps. When you start slicing the pie thinner, it gets worse (although most HD1s seem to go no lower than 48kbps, with the HD2s & HD3s dividing up the remaining bandwidth). You can hear the difference, and the lower the bandwidth, the more the station sounds like a really bad MP3 or a low-bandwidth Internet station and not so much with the "crystal-clear HD sound" those commercials advertise.
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Honestly I don't mean to digress into an argument of the merits of HD Radio and it may be that the Zune HD is a bad HD radio but I can't notice that big of a audio difference between BLI's analog and HD signal. At any rate that makes sense and hopefully one day some station on Long Island will try a HD2 station at least. They have some pretty decent HD2 station in Boston that aren't simply automated and I'm honestly jealous. : (
 
I played with a Sangean for the better part of 4 months in 2009. I put the thing in a box because less than 40 miles from ESB, the thing was useless. It held very few stations without contorting my body to hold the antenna in ways you can't imagine. Then when you got a station to come in with good reception, there was a technical issue at the station. It wasn't worth the trouble.

If radioheads like us won't go through the hassle, you can be sure the general public won't even consider it.
 
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