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The AP says it interviewed Miami Radio host Martha Flores on Wednesday, but she's been dead for two years. How the hell did they pull this off? Séance? An ouija board?" he joked."

Actually, the AP never said they interviewed her. They wrongly attributed a quote at a press conference to her. Not the same thing.

The quote was correct, just mis-attributed. Meanwhile, hosts at Radio Nambi claimed antifa stormed the capitol on Jan 6. They didn't. Did anyone there ever apologize for the error?

Moncada's "Cada Tarde" co-host Augustin Acosta then just as falsely claimed that "facial recognition technology" proved that BLM and Antifa militants had infiltrated the Capitol insurrection mob and stoked the violence that left five people dead.
 
Actually, the AP never said they interviewed her. They wrongly attributed a quote at a press conference to her. Not the same thing.

The quote was correct, just mis-attributed.
it is still poor journalism, which is the point of my comment
Meanwhile, hosts at Radio Nambi claimed antifa stormed the capitol on Jan 6. They didn't. Did anyone there ever apologize for the error?
Agustín Acosta dies not work for Radio Mambí. He is at Actualidad 1040.
 
It's still poor journalism.
So what we have are two examples of a lack of fact checking, one from a progressive news agency and another from a vehement anti-Castroism voice.
 
But only one apologized for the mistake and issued a correction.
We don’t know that… the comments made on Actualidad 1040 occurred some time ago And there are no trasnscripts.
 
However, reports at the time say no corrections were ever issued. Those reports are linked earlier in this thread.
Since that station is broadcasting in Spanish and there are no recordings or transcripts of its full broadcasts, we have no proof of any of that. And that station has nothing to do with the UVN deal.
 
Copyediting is a lost art, and that’s across-the-board.
I was a copy editor (two words) for better than 30 years. Sadly, the skill is not seen as necessary now that most content is online, where the philosophy seems to be "Get it online fast and first, and if someone comments on an error, we'll fix it later." In contrast, an error getting through the desk and into print, and not being caught until we were going through the first copies of the paper, was cause for cursing and hand wringing on the desk, along with a frantic call to the pressroom to halt the run for a replate. It happened to me a couple of times and I was inconsolable for several minutes afterward. Those print errors never go away so long as someone still has a copy of the paper.
 
I was a copy editor (two words) for better than 30 years. Sadly, the skill is not seen as necessary now that most content is online, where the philosophy seems to be "Get it online fast and first, and if someone comments on an error, we'll fix it later." In contrast, an error getting through the desk and into print, and not being caught until we were going through the first copies of the paper, was cause for cursing and hand wringing on the desk, along with a frantic call to the pressroom to halt the run for a replate. It happened to me a couple of times and I was inconsolable for several minutes afterward. Those print errors never go away so long as someone still has a copy of the paper.
I worked as an editor for several years, newspaper and radio journalism. During the late 1990s when I saw a news story in the local newspaper, I was a bit flummoxed. The news story in question was a picture of a 'town hall' style meeting -- and the caption didn't say where the meeting was, or when it happened. Curious, I actually emailed the editor. She told me that the five W's no longer were valid in journalism.

That said, I'm surprised that much of the news online is as free of errors as it is. It's biased in many cases, but for the most part a lot of them still stick, more or less, to the basic tenets they taught us in journalism school.

As for some of the bigger errors, news staffs are stretched very thin. During the journalism heyday, during the 1980s, there were probably over 250K journalists in the US. Now, with almost half again the population, there are only 46,000 journalists nationwide. And that number is dropping, being replaced by people fuming away on Twitter.

There really are no 'beat' reporters anymore, for example. It looks like all news research is all done online.
 
A good example is the debates regarding social media outlets like Facebook and Twitter. Republicans, especially those in the Trump camp, were claiming they were being silenced and that those social media outlets were violating their rights to free speech. In reality, and in contrast to those republican claims, what Twitter and Facebook were doing was to cancel obvious fake accounts (which, oddly enough, greatly reduced the amount of accounts that were following right-wing republican candidates and political figures in some cases), taking down bots, eliminating posts and memes that had been created by accounts run by foreign governments like China and Russia, and put labels on blatantly false posts and viral videos and other content that had been debunked or ran contrary to proven, indisputable facts.
People were indeed silenced. FB removed and blocked any quote of an article or any mention of the possibility of COVID being due to a lab leak. This only ended after the Biden Administration admitted that the lab leak theory was one of many possibilities. That's just one instance. The number of Russian and Chinese bots on FB, when compared to the millions of vitriolic, real people on FB spewing out their heat, discontent, and half truths, were minimal.

That said, any time one operates a medium used by billions of people, and hundreds of millions of Americans, that company is walking a tightrope. The result is that both political parties are angry at FB and Twitter, while the millions of Americans still use both media as if nothing happened, and the tone of the dialogues seems to have softened somewhat.

Extreme political partisans of either side would love to see the other side silenced. For most of us who are more open minded and veer at least partially towards the center, we may not enjoy hearing from the other side, but we have better things to do with our lives than try to shut others down.

I think most Americans are that way.

There are a lot of conservatives who want to wipe out Spanish in this country. They want to eliminate the choice of Spanish at ATMs or self-check in grocery stores. They want to eliminate ESL programs in schools. I've even heard people at radio conventions say they want to eliminate Spanish radio. They say Spanish is the language of illiteracy. Some are very prominent politicians.
That may be true, but how far have those politicians and political forces actually gotten in "banning" Spanish, from anything? Not very far. And really, it's become a non-issue. The vast majority of Hispanic immigrants learn English fairly quickly. The vast majority of Ethiopian or Somali or Gambian or Senegalese or Pakistani or Indian or Chinese immigrants to the US learn English fairly quickly. The vast majority of all of these immigrants I've met or interacted with are bilingual. They're more interested in communicating with other Americans than making an issue of language.

As for the brouhaha over the stations in Miami, they're two AM stations. I would like to see proof that the 'right-wing agenda' promoted by either of them is causing all Hispanics in Miami to become GOP right wingers, as alleged in the "What's The Matter Florida GOP" article. I would also guess that younger Hispanics in the Miami metro listen to music radio, not the two AM talkers in question. I would guess that even older Hispanics in the Miami metro have access to the internet, and other Spanish language media there, as well as nationwide. The writer of the "What's the matter Florida GOP" opinion article seems to think that Miami Hispanics are so docile and easily swayed that they incapable of getting their information from various sources.

Looking over the LMN website, I wish them well. They may need it. If they're buying these stations to put a political agenda across, they'll really need the help. Left-wing politics doesn't seem to work well on the radio, as we saw with Air America. They tried, but it failed. And even BIN is mostly raw news, and they have indeed had a couple conservative viewpoints expressed here and there.
 
That may be true, but how far have those politicians and political forces actually gotten in "banning" Spanish, from anything? Not very far. And really, it's become a non-issue. The vast majority of Hispanic immigrants learn English fairly quickly.
Actually, that is not the case and never has been.

Most first generation immigrants who arrive as adults and who come to escape poverty learn little beyond essential English and are not generally and in their majority "bilingual" to any extent. They are too busy working long hours to spend much time learning the language to any deep extent.

And in areas of the US where immigrants of one country or region and language concentrate, there are ghettos which allow a person to never need to learn English. "La Sauesera" (The Southwest Eighth Street" in Miami is a perfect example of this.

On the other hand, political refugees tend to be the upper and middle classes of their home country. They may already know some English from going to a bilingual school, a common case in much of Latin America. Or, at least, they are university graduates and are able to add a new language to their abilities with some ease.

However, in general, the ability to learn a new language proficiently declines after the early teen years. Adults who are monolingual have a lot of difficulty learning a new language and that is why media in their own tongue prospers in many places in the US.
The vast majority of Ethiopian or Somali or Gambian or Senegalese or Pakistani or Indian or Chinese immigrants to the US learn English fairly quickly.
But, usually, at a very basic and functional level. Knowing what "Hand me the flat-head screwdriver" is a lot easier to assimilate than understanding Holden in "Catcher in the Rye".
The vast majority of all of these immigrants I've met or interacted with are bilingual. They're more interested in communicating with other Americans than making an issue of language.
And that is because you are less likely to meet first generation immigrants who are not at all proficient in English. In my experience in Spanish language radio in the US (Including managing over 500 remotes in my first position in Los Angeles) I doubt more than 10%... if that... spoke any more than "emergency English".
As for the brouhaha over the stations in Miami, they're two AM stations. I would like to see proof that the 'right-wing agenda' promoted by either of them is causing all Hispanics in Miami to become GOP right wingers, as alleged in the "What's The Matter Florida GOP" article.
In fact, with exactly 20 Spanish language station in the Miami market, most listeners will simply seek other stations, some of which will fill any void created by the loss of WAQI from the anti-socialist platform.
I would also guess that younger Hispanics in the Miami metro listen to music radio, not the two AM talkers in question.
And those who are second generation and beyond tend to listen to English language stations, although the surge in reggaetón in the last decade has returned many to Spanish language radio.

And, yes, they do not listen to AM. There are 10 FM signals local to the market in Spanish, with 7 billing over $5 million annually.
I would guess that even older Hispanics in the Miami metro have access to the internet, and other Spanish language media there, as well as nationwide. The writer of the "What's the matter Florida GOP" opinion article seems to think that Miami Hispanics are so docile and easily swayed that they incapable of getting their information from various sources.
In this we have agreement. However, there is no other major center of Cuban, Nicaraguan, Venezuelan, Colombian and even Bolivian refugees in the US so the voices specific to their "cause" are very limited.
Looking over the LMN website, I wish them well. They may need it. If they're buying these stations to put a political agenda across, they'll really need the help. Left-wing politics doesn't seem to work well on the radio, as we saw with Air America. They tried, but it failed. And even BIN is mostly raw news, and they have indeed had a couple conservative viewpoints expressed here and there.
Air America failed mostly because it was not entertaining. Rush was an entertainer in his best years. The folks on Air America were crusaders and had few, if any, entertaining moments. They had no direction and guidance, because management was no gifted with radio experience; they had a cause akin to the Crusaders and had not time for amusement or entertainment. And the new group seems to be of the same persuasion, right down to the finance provider.
 
I worked as an editor for several years, newspaper and radio journalism. During the late 1990s when I saw a news story in the local newspaper, I was a bit flummoxed. The news story in question was a picture of a 'town hall' style meeting -- and the caption didn't say where the meeting was, or when it happened. Curious, I actually emailed the editor. She told me that the five W's no longer were valid in journalism.

That said, I'm surprised that much of the news online is as free of errors as it is. It's biased in many cases, but for the most part a lot of them still stick, more or less, to the basic tenets they taught us in journalism school.

As for some of the bigger errors, news staffs are stretched very thin. During the journalism heyday, during the 1980s, there were probably over 250K journalists in the US. Now, with almost half again the population, there are only 46,000 journalists nationwide. And that number is dropping, being replaced by people fuming away on Twitter.

There really are no 'beat' reporters anymore, for example. It looks like all news research is all done online.
As is the case with radio (and many other businesses that were thriving back in a different time and era), "journalism" and the "news" business has changed greatly. Newspapers and outlets that were thriving 20 or more years ago are often now in a weak place financially, and where journalism used to be an exciting career that could be counted on to be relatively long-lasting with decent pay, that now seems to be more the exception than the rule. I grew up in a household where the 2 local print newspapers were delivered daily to our home, and on weekends, we got a 3rd print edition. I can count on 2 fingers the amount of times I've held a print edition of a newspaper since the later 90s, and on one occasion I only bought a "paper" because my parents were visiting, yet I consider myself a voracious reader of news, sifting through a few local and national publications daily (and yes, I subscribe, I'm not "mooching" or only hitting sites that are free to read).

"Newspaper" staffs have shrunk considerably. Many radio stations or groups with "news" departments ditched those decades ago due to budgets. Just as with radio, newspaper advertising revenues have been greatly reduced, as is readership to their print editions. Those who haven't figured out how to offset the costs of their online publications with ad revenue or by selling subscriptions are really screwed. Many modern-day "news" sites simply pull information and details from other sources to form a story that contains a lot of information, but is shorter and more to the point, because that's what their readers are interested in. Others pay writers (not really "journalists") a fee per story to write for them.

That said, I often read the comments under the news stories posted on various websites, as in some cases, especially with local news, you'll actually get more detailed information from the reader comments. In other cases, readers really hold the publications to task if they write a crap article or post a poorly researched item that contains little detail or isn't very thorough, leaving out the "5 Ws and the H" as you say.
 
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In fact, with exactly 20 Spanish language station in the Miami market, most listeners will simply seek other stations, some of which will fill any void created by the loss of WAQI from the anti-socialist platform.

Which as you've said won't happen for at least 12-16 months. It may not happen at all.
 
Which as you've said won't happen for at least 12-16 months. It may not happen at all.
16 months is the earliest. The transaction has not been filed at the Commission (I checked on Friday) so give it between 90 and 120 days for approval* and then 12 months for the Univision administration agreement.

* If the Commission decides to hear the objections, it could be longer. My thoughts are that both the Chairman of the FCC and the station buyer are of the same party, so they may choose to proceed with caution to prevent criticism even if the Commission is not supposed to rule on content.
 
On the other hand, political refugees tend to be the upper and middle classes of their home country. They may already know some English from going to a bilingual school, a common case in much of Latin America. Or, at least, they are university graduates and are able to add a new language to their abilities with some ease.

However, in general, the ability to learn a new language proficiently declines after the early teen years. Adults who are monolingual have a lot of difficulty learning a new language and that is why media in their own tongue prospers in many places in the US.

But, usually, at a very basic and functional level. Knowing what "Hand me the flat-head screwdriver" is a lot easier to assimilate than understanding Holden in "Catcher in the Rye".

And that is because you are less likely to meet first generation immigrants who are not at all proficient in English. In my experience in Spanish language radio in the US (Including managing over 500 remotes in my first position in Los Angeles) I doubt more than 10%... if that... spoke any more than "emergency English".
Most of the immigrants I've met are first generation, and many own or operate their own businesses. A lot of them come here to go to college, and then stay. Some of the immigrants out in the real world are college educated, but probably most aren't. The Hispanics I've met are Salvadorans and Mexicans, mainly, and they're first generation and know adequate English to hold a conversation.

Their English is better than my Spanish, and I took the language for four years, but have mainly a reading knowledge only (not enough chances to actually use it). I can speak it with a reasonably good accent, but still have trouble speaking it 'on my feet'.

It may be different with immigrants in Seattle than other areas of the US where there are larger Hispanic neighborhoods and immigrant enclaves. Here in Seattle there really aren't any ethnic neighborhoods anymore. Most immigrants are in South King County and the area is mixed, ethnically. Maybe that makes a difference.

In Eastern Washington it's probably more like you are describing, so you probably have a point.
 
16 months is the earliest. The transaction has not been filed at the Commission (I checked on Friday) so give it between 90 and 120 days for approval* and then 12 months for the Univision administration agreement.

* If the Commission decides to hear the objections, it could be longer. My thoughts are that both the Chairman of the FCC and the station buyer are of the same party, so they may choose to proceed with caution to prevent criticism even if the Commission is not supposed to rule on content.
Why is this going to take that long? I've seen LMAs go into effect the next day after a sale is announced.
 
Why is this going to take that long? I've seen LMAs go into effect the next day after a sale is announced.

This was discussed earlier in this thread. It's in the sales agreement that Univision will continue to program the stations.

Which is why the protests about programming changes are premature.
 
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