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Oral Roberts has bought a farm....

dustintv said:
...with all that donated/swindled money most likely. The evangelist has died at age 91.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091215/ap_on_re_us/us_obit_oral_roberts

Poor Oral - he only made it to age 91. What a loser. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

We should all be so lucky.

Seriously, though: Oral Roberts, like Billy Graham - were both from a gentler era...before right-wing televangelists like Falwell, Dobson, and Swaggert tried to ram their fascist political doctrine down everybody's throats like it was God's law. For that, I'll wish Rev. Roberts a hearty RIP.
 
BRNout said:
In your ham-fisted attempt at inappropriate humor, the joke's on you because you got it wrong. What you meant to say was that "Oral Robers bought the farm..."

A better title would be "Oral Roberts finally called home". Those who knew Oral's money-raising stunt from the mid-1980s would understand.
 
BRNout said:
... In your ham-fisted attempt at inappropriate humor, the joke's on you because you got it wrong.

IMHO, the best and only good Oral Roberts joke was told by the late Sam Kinison. (If you want to hear it, go buy or download "Have You Seen Me Lately?" I think the content violates R-I's TOS. ;D )
 
Oral Roberts pioneered televangelism, first with his weekly program and then a series of primetime variety specials for NBC (this was before he established his own TV facility in Tulsa). He even had his own parking space at the NBC Burbank lot alongside Johnny Carson and Bob Hope!
 
Lkeller said:
Seriously, though: Oral Roberts, like Billy Graham - were both from a gentler era...before right-wing televangelists like Falwell, Dobson, and Swaggert tried to ram their fascist political doctrine down everybody's throats like it was God's law. For that, I'll wish Rev. Roberts a hearty RIP.
Well, I suppose someone had to counter the "Reverends" Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton! ::)
 
johnnya2k6 said:
Oral Roberts pioneered televangelism, first with his weekly program and then a series of primetime variety specials for NBC (this was before he established his own TV facility in Tulsa). He even had his own parking space at the NBC Burbank lot alongside Johnny Carson and Bob Hope!

When did Oral Roberts do specials on NBC? I remember he'd do two or three primetime specials a year, especially around religious holidays, and would have big-name entertainers on them, but I recall them being syndicated. Possibly he taped them at NBC in Burbank before he set up shop in Tulsa, but if he did specials on NBC it must have been 'way back because I don't recall them. Possibly your NBC affiliate carried them; I remember that WAGA (CBS in Atlanta at the time) did in the '70s.
 
Roberts did a number of synidcated specials in the 1970s and they were very well-produced. This was before he established his production facility (known as "Baby Mabee" to locals) in Tulsa. But even Baby Mabee was not used for most of the specials he did in the early 1980s. He would go to California and use a production facility. It's possible he used NBC Burbank a time or two, but it's hilghly unlikely he was there enough to warrant his own permanent parking space. Baby Mabee was (and may still be) set up for Roberts' weekly show in which he would do some preaching, have singers, guests, etc., like a talk show format. It really wasn't set up for lots of "wild" sets and huge production numbers. Richard Roberts may still produce shows in Tulsa. It's a good facility.
 
You mean Richard Roberts, the estranged twin cousin of CNN's John Roberts?
 
Oral Roberts was a pioneer in television, making use of the medium beginning in 1954, when the attitude among many Christians was that TV was of the devil.

Yes, there have been innumerable excesses in televangelism, involving many people associated with Roberts, but he was cut from a different cloth.

Several members of my family and some friends attended Oral Roberts University, including one who operated a TV camera on The Richard Roberts Show. I have been told that people had donated Mercedes-Benz automobiles to the university's motor pool, but that Oral Roberts would never use one, as he thought it was inappropriate. OTOH, Richard had no such qualms.

I attended my brother-in-law's graduation there in '91. One of the seminary students, I believe from Africa, began dancing an exuberant jig after receiving his diploma. Oral Roberts, seated on stage in full dress robes, in his early 70s at the time, leapt out of his seat, bounded over to the young man and joined him in dance.

That was the kind of man he was.
 
dhett said:
Oral Roberts was a pioneer in television, making use of the medium beginning in 1954, when the attitude among many Christians was that TV was of the devil.
...depending on your definition of "Christian." Bishop Fulton J. Sheen had been three years on DuMont against NBC's Milton Berle on Tuesday nights by the time Roberts started his televangelism career, and there had been numerous other religious programs, about 98% of them associated with Christian denominations of some sort (the remainder being mainly Jewish), on NBC, CBS, ABC and DuMont before that...
 
Ultimajock said:
Bishop Fulton J. Sheen had been three years on DuMont against NBC's Milton Berle on Tuesday nights by the time Roberts started his televangelism career
And who can forget Berle's reaction to Bishop Sheen winning an Emmy: "He's got better writers!!"

Don't forget Kathryn Kuhlman (the female version of Oral Roberts/precursor to Benny Hinn); she did "I Believe In Miracles" at CBS around the time Roberts did his specials across town in Burbank. Like I said in another thread, her show didn't need any audience -- live or canned.
 
Ultimajock said:
dhett said:
Oral Roberts was a pioneer in television, making use of the medium beginning in 1954, when the attitude among many Christians was that TV was of the devil.
...depending on your definition of "Christian." Bishop Fulton J. Sheen had been three years on DuMont against NBC's Milton Berle on Tuesday nights by the time Roberts started his televangelism career, and there had been numerous other religious programs, about 98% of them associated with Christian denominations of some sort (the remainder being mainly Jewish), on NBC, CBS, ABC and DuMont before that...

No, my omission of Fulton Sheen was unintentional. He, too, was a pioneer, and yes, he got a jump on both Roberts and Graham.

And the anti-TV attitude was mostly among what are now called "evangelical" Christians.
 
johnnya2k6 said:
Ultimajock said:
Bishop Fulton J. Sheen had been three years on DuMont against NBC's Milton Berle on Tuesday nights by the time Roberts started his televangelism career
And who can forget Berle's reaction to Bishop Sheen winning an Emmy: "He's got better writers!!"
...I've heard that Berle also said summat to the effect of, "We have the same sponsor -- Sky Chief!" (Sky Chief being a brand Texaco put on one of their higher-octane grades of gasoline)...
 
dhett said:
And the anti-TV attitude was mostly among what are now called "evangelical" Christians.

Sorry to somewhat go off topic but pretty much the anti-TV ( and anti-radio ) crowd today is not so much evangelical Christians but rather today's young people ( those under 30 ). No shortage of those under under 30 who think TV is "stupid" and/or "garbage", much less do they even own a set and these same people consider radio and the people who chose work in that biz as, well "retarded trash".

And this is the crowd the advertisers really want to reach...but that is for a different thread.
 
mleach said:
dhett said:
And the anti-TV attitude was mostly among what are now called "evangelical" Christians.

Sorry to somewhat go off topic but pretty much the anti-TV ( and anti-radio ) crowd today is not so much evangelical Christians but rather today's young people ( those under 30 ). No shortage of those under under 30 who think TV is "stupid" and/or "garbage", much less do they even own a set and these same people consider radio and the people who chose work in that biz as, well "retarded trash".

And this is the crowd the advertisers really want to reach...but that is for a different thread.

You're point is correct, but to clarify, the anti-TV attitude in the 1950s and 1960s came from a group of Christians who today would be called "evangelical".
 
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