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O'Reilly Franken Olbermann War

> Here is audio from part of today's Al Franken Show
> commenting on the Olbermann issue as well as returning fire
> on Bill O'Reilly's attacks on Air America. Includes skit
> about Fox Security.
>
> (MP3 format)
>
> http://tinyurl.com/hhlzv
>

What exactly is the point of a "skit" on the radio? Is that what Al's team of ten writers do with their time?
 
It's funny to hear the baby Chihuahuas nipping at the legs of the Irish Setter...especially when liberals can't take an obvious joke.


> > Here is audio from part of today's Al Franken Show
> > commenting on the Olbermann issue as well as returning
> fire
> > on Bill O'Reilly's attacks on Air America. Includes skit
> > about Fox Security.
> >
> > (MP3 format)
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/hhlzv
> >
>
> What exactly is the point of a "skit" on the radio? Is that
> what Al's team of ten writers do with their time?
>
 
> It's funny to hear the baby Chihuahuas nipping at the legs
> of the Irish Setter...especially when liberals can't take an
> obvious joke.

I am not sure what that means.
 
General who?

> It's funny to hear the baby Chihuahuas nipping at the legs
> of the Irish Setter...especially when liberals can't take an
> obvious joke.
>

Are we maybe generalizing too much, in the way that all cons do?


-Dirty Dick
 
Keith Olberman...baby Chihuahua in ratings
Al Franken...baby Chihuahah in ratings

Bill O'Reilly...Grown up Irish Setter dog.

> > It's funny to hear the baby Chihuahuas nipping at the legs
>
> > of the Irish Setter...especially when liberals can't take
> an
> > obvious joke.
>
> I am not sure what that means.
>
 
> Keith Olberman...baby Chihuahua in ratings

Not in the 25-54 money demo. Fox doesn't put out ratings memos worried about Olbermann for nothing. Check again and see where the growth is.

> Al Franken...baby Chihuahah in ratings

Not in a lot of markets where Franken's show is up against O'Reilly. Franken is beating him handily.

> Bill O'Reilly...Grown up Irish Setter dog.

Yeah, Mr. "Inside Edition"'s ratings seem to be heading where that whippet went... into the woods.
 
Radio ratings are hard to get a hold of. Not so with TV. In the past eight months Olberman's ratings have been soaring and O'Reilly's are sinking. According to Nielsen's Competitive Program Ranker, Olbermann's ratings have gone up 37% since July, 2005 from 119,000 to 163,000 viewers 25-54. O'Reilly, while still number one has lost 16% of his 25-54 viewers decreasing from 540,000 to 454,000. One can only suspect that O'Reilly's radio audience is also going south.

> > Keith Olberman...baby Chihuahua in ratings
>
> Not in the 25-54 money demo. Fox doesn't put out ratings
> memos worried about Olbermann for nothing. Check again and
> see where the growth is.
>
> > Al Franken...baby Chihuahah in ratings
>
> Not in a lot of markets where Franken's show is up against
> O'Reilly. Franken is beating him handily.
>
> > Bill O'Reilly...Grown up Irish Setter dog.
>
> Yeah, Mr. "Inside Edition"'s ratings seem to be heading
> where that whippet went... into the woods.
>
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Media Bistro pulls togeter some ratings

> Yeah, Mr. "Inside Edition"'s ratings seem to be heading
> where that whippet went... into the woods.
>

Phil is right about O'Reilly declining at least on televison. MediaBistro the site for journalism/television/media classes and jobs opened up Tvnewser to track the media...they provided an analysis of ratings over the past year..

Link ->

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/original/feb06vs05.pdf

Looks like a difficult time for many of the Fox people...but check out Keith's increases.....
 
So O'Reilly still has

Three times the audience Countdown has.

That's about right. For all the criticisms O'Reilly faces, he has a lot more responsibility than Olbermann ever thought of.
 
Re: So O'Reilly still has

That's not the point. O"Reilly has had the number one show on all cable news channels for over two years now. He not only beats Olbermann, but every other host on all three cable news networks. Maybe that's why he has developed such an inflated ego that he thinks he can call Fox security whenever someone calls his show with a point he doesn't agree with. Also it is a fact that his audience has decreased by 16% and Olbermann's has increased by 37% over the past year.

> Three times the audience Countdown has.
>
> That's about right. For all the criticisms O'Reilly faces,
> he has a lot more responsibility than Olbermann ever thought
> of.
>
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Re: So O'Reilly still has

> That's not the point. O"Reilly has had the number one show
> on all cable news channels for over two years now.

Most radio call in shows have more listeners than O'Reilly has viewers. Numbers do not equal accuracy. That is the usual dismissal talking point given by O'Reilly fans - his words don't have to be held to account because he is popular with the over 50 crowd and drive numbers because of it. If we are using that logic, than the Communist Chinese are by far the most accurate and important nation on earth because they have more people there and they aren't running for the borders to move somewhere else.
 
O'Reilly's TV numbers

> Most radio call in shows have more listeners than O'Reilly
> has viewers. Numbers do not equal accuracy. That is the
> usual dismissal talking point given by O'Reilly fans - his
> words don't have to be held to account because he is popular
> with the over 50 crowd and drive numbers because of it.

O'Reilly's TV numbers are impressive at first glance. He's easily the most popular show on FNC, and likely on cable, in the "2-plus" (everyone watching, even more so than radio's 12-plus) numbers.

Narrow it down to 25-54, the so-called "money demo" for both TV and radio, and the picture is a bit different. O'Reilly drops a TON of viewers going down to 25-54.

His competitors, like Mr. Olbermann, also drop viewers from 2-plus to 25-54, as expected. But their drop is not nearly as precipitous as O'Reilly. He loses something like 80% of his audience by whittling down to 25-54, and most others lose only about 50%.

Even in his much lower 25-54 numbers, he's still beating Olbermann and company...perhaps by double. But the numbers are MUCH smaller for him in comparison to how much smaller they get for his competition.

Assuming there's not some groundswell of viewers 2-24 in O'Reilly's camp - a fair assumption because generally, cable news viewers are not under 25 - he's got an audience heavy with older folks.

FNC's only problem with that is...can they sell it and make money off of it? The others... can they attract the 25-54 audience enough to make money off of it?

-OA<P ID="signature">______________
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Re: O'Reilly's TV numbers

> Assuming there's not some groundswell of viewers 2-24 in
> O'Reilly's camp - a fair assumption because generally, cable
> news viewers are not under 25 - he's got an audience heavy
> with older folks.

I carefully polled the 2-24 demo in this household, which, as OA can attest, consists of one person, aged 2. She recognizes Keith Olbermann on sight, happily shouts out "Daiwy Show" and "Cobeah Wepoh" when she sees them, and wouldn't know the Big Giant Head from a hole in the wall.

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