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Origin of MLB on Broadcast TV pre 1967

Hi

I know that in either 1966 or 67, NBC had the game of the week from all

of the MLB teams.

But How did it work before then?

I know Edgar J. Schenick and ABC was given credit to the concept in 1953.

And CBS later picked up the rights from CBS beginning with the 1955 season.

But was there any other attempts before or after that

Didn't NBC had some regular season games before 1965?

And I assumed Dumont had the same.
 
Until 1965, there was no league-wide national television package for regular-season Major League Baseball games.

Teams, if they so desired, could sell rights to the networks.

Prior to 1965, network regular-season MLB telecasts had to be blacked-out in MLB cities. By 1964, thanks to expansion, network regular-season MLB games were shut-out of most major markets.

The first-ever MLB league-wide regular-season network TV deal was in 1965 with ABC. For the first time, weekend afternoon MLB games could be broadcast into MLB cities. However, network "Games Of The Week", until the late 1980's, could not be seen in the two cities whose local teams were playing in the "GOTW". From 1965 until the late 1980's, networks would cover two Saturday-afternoon games each week: One that went to most of the network (a "primary game"), and the second only being seen in the home areas of the two teams playing in the network's "primary" game. Although the "primary" game would not be televised in the home markets of the two teams playing in that game, local TV rightsholders in those cities were free to broadcast that game.

How this would work: If a network's two Saturday-afternoon "Games Of The Week" were New York Yankees at Boston (primary game) and St. Louis Cardinals at Chicago Cubs (secondary game), the Yankees/Boston game would be seen everywhere except in New York, Boston, and possibly markets adjacant to New York and Boston. Those markets got the St. Louis/Cubs game instead.

The 1965 ABC/MLB deal was only for that one season because a separate MLB deal with NBC for the All-Star Game and World Series (there were as yet no playoffs; the two teams atop their respective leages at the end of the regular-season went right into the 'Series) also ended after the 1965 season. MLB wanted to offer the "Game Of The Week", the All-Star Game and the World Series into a single package, which NBC picked-up starting in 1966.
 
> Hi
>
> > Didn't NBC had some regular season games before 1965?
>
> And I assumed Dumont had the same.
>
I don't think Dumont had MLB, but NBC did have Saturday and
Sunday games prior to '65, with Lindsey Nelson and Leo Durocher
doing play-by-play and color, respectively. These aired against
the CBS games with Dizzy Dean and Pee Wee Reese at the mike;
CBS's games also aired on Saturday and Sunday. The last year of
the CBS contract, 1964, all the games involved the Yankees, which
CBS bought that year (and sold to George Steinbrenner around 1973).

And before any of this, ABC had primetime coverage of the National
Women's Baseball League (think "A League Of Their Own") in 1951.<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by bpatrick on 02/13/06 01:21 PM.</FONT></P>
 
> The first-ever MLB league-wide regular-season network TV
> deal was in 1965 with ABC. For the first time, weekend
> afternoon MLB games could be broadcast into MLB cities.
> However, network "Games Of The Week", until the late 1980's,
> could not be seen in the two cities whose local teams were
> playing in the "GOTW".

1984 was the first year of non-blacked out GOTW. NBC (and ABC) generally still did 2 games, with a primary game to most of the country and a secondary game to mostly to the markets of the secondary game. This was mostly done for rainout insurance.


--Mike
 
> > The first-ever MLB league-wide regular-season network TV
> > deal was in 1965 with ABC. For the first time, weekend
> > afternoon MLB games could be broadcast into MLB cities.
> > However, network "Games Of The Week", until the late
> 1980's,
> > could not be seen in the two cities whose local teams were
>
> > playing in the "GOTW".
>
> 1984 was the first year of non-blacked out GOTW. NBC (and
> ABC) generally still did 2 games, with a primary game to
> most of the country and a secondary game to mostly to the
> markets of the secondary game. This was mostly done for
> rainout insurance.
>
>
> --Mike
>
That's great

I wonder if there is a way you can trace which team pre 1966

was on a national network

For Instance we know the Yankees were mostly on CBS as well

as the Philadelphia Phillies

What about ABC and NBC

What teams did they get pre 1965
 
> 1984 was the first year of non-blacked out GOTW. NBC (and
> ABC) generally still did 2 games, with a primary game to
> most of the country and a secondary game to mostly to the
> markets of the secondary game. This was mostly done for
> rainout insurance.
>
>
> --Mike
>

In the 70's & early 80's, many of the "Rain" games involved the Houston Astros. If the Astros were at home on a given Saturday or Monday night, it's a safe bet that the game would be on Network television, due to being the only "dome" team (until the Mariners debuted in the Kingdome in '77)
 
> I don't think Dumont had MLB, but NBC did have
> Saturday and Sunday games prior to '65, with
> Lindsey Nelson and Leo Durocher...

The Nelson/Durocher pairing rings a bell, but maybe
a few years prior to 1965? Although now as I am
typing this I seem to recall Leo being one of ABC's
1965 broadcasters...let's see, when was he a coach
with the Dodgers...or maybe more importantly, in
which season did he do the Munsters episode?

Getting back to what I originally wanted to post,
wasn't it Bob Wolff and Joe Garagiola who did the
NBC games from 1962-1964?
 
> > I don't think Dumont had MLB, but NBC did have
> > Saturday and Sunday games prior to '65, with
> > Lindsey Nelson and Leo Durocher...
>
> The Nelson/Durocher pairing rings a bell, but maybe
> a few years prior to 1965? Although now as I am
> typing this I seem to recall Leo being one of ABC's
> 1965 broadcasters...let's see, when was he a coach
> with the Dodgers...or maybe more importantly, in
> which season did he do the Munsters episode?
>
> Getting back to what I originally wanted to post,
> wasn't it Bob Wolff and Joe Garagiola who did the
> NBC games from 1962-1964?
>
I may be going back to the '50s with the Nelson/Durocher
pairing; I don't recall who worked NBC's games from 1962-64
because they weren't aired in Raleigh/Durham (WRAL was an
ABC affiliate and WTVD carried Dean/Reese from CBS). But
Durocher did work ABC's games in 1965.
 
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