Oscar's 2020

[landtuna]

About 23 million people. Personally, I didn't see any of the nominated films.

I saw:

'1917' (great technical movie but the story has been told many times before and much better).

'Ford vs Ferrari' (there is a documentary on YouTube which is much better).

'The Irishman' (way too long, too boring and you've seen these goombahs many times before).

Wife and daughter saw 'Little Women' and loved it.

 

[davideduardo]

Preliminary ratings show a 25% drop in audience from last year:

About 23 million people. Personally, I didn't see any of the nominated films.

It's still the largest viewership of any non-sporting show. But the ongoing erosion is considerable.

I quit watching at all this year. Having people who are actors and directors and producers and special effects experts and stars telling me how to live my life is a bit like running out each Monday morning to ask the guys on the trash truck how to invest my retirement funds. Nice guys, go the extra step to help me if there is a big item, but they don't have a financial degree.

Were the Oscars more about movies and less about social and political subjects, I would likely view them again.

Now I am going to run and call my dentist to see if he can come buy and put a filling in a plumbing leak...

 

[davideduardo]

When a foreign film wins Best Picture there's not much to say.

At least many of the winners represented movies that I have seen or would like to see via paid cable.

The South Korean film is not of any particular interest, even when it becomes available on a subscription channel or a discounted DVD. Without having seen it (something I have in common with about 99.9% of Americans), it has no special interest. And I watch quite a few series and movies that are subtitled, and often enjoy films that reflect other cultures; I feel the award was a reaction to the "only whites" criticism of the nominations.

I thought the rejection of the movies that were not played more than the minimum in "real" theaters was mostly the old guard trying to stop a tidal wave with a ballot. There are very few movies that I want to see in a "real" theater any more due to the cost and inconvenience, yet I will buy them for home viewing rather often. While my friends are not a representative sample, I can say that most now feel the same.

 

[TheBigA]

Were the Oscars more about movies and less about social and political subjects, I would likely view them again.

I only counted two speeches that were in any way political. Certainly the Koreans were very polite and didn't mention politics.

But there were a lot of film clips. I feel I got a good taste of the nominated films by the clips shown. It was a well produced show. It didn't feel rushed, and only ended up about 20 minutes past schedule. According to some articles, the show billed very well for ABC, with national spots getting about $2.8 million apiece. Certainly not a disaster.

 

[davideduardo]

I only counted two speeches that were in any way political. Certainly the Koreans were very polite and didn't mention politics.

Political or social... are not subjects I care to hear about from movie industry talents. And for the last few years, we have seen everything from the environment to vegetarian diets to politics... from people who make a few million a year and who have no education or training in any of those fields.

Maybe they can send Brad Pitt to live in Korea for a while, then. I guess he never got invited to live in Venezuela when he was so busy praising the wonderful totalitarian government there.

 

[landtuna]

There are very few movies that I want to see in a "real" theater any more due to the cost and inconvenience, yet I will buy them for home viewing rather often.

One of the many things cell phones have ruined is going to the movies in a real theater. People just will not leave the damn things turned off and in their pockets.

 

[davideduardo]

One of the many things cell phones have ruined is going to the movies in a real theater. People just will not leave the damn things turned off and in their pockets.

Agreed. At the last movie I attended, the couple next to us took out the phone at least 10 times during the movie, with the screen light being annoying enough to distract from the movie and to invoke irritation that turned into anger after about the third time.

Complaining would have taken me away from following the movie, and been even more annoying.

I have not been to a movie theater since... that was two months ago. We usually go once a week if there is anything appealing showing.

This is the same sort of courtesy lack that has people playing video games aloud in a waiting room or showing videos to each other at a coffee shop. It's not "get off of my lawn". It's "don't make your videos and entertainment impose on mine in public."

The other day we got coffee at a well-known coffee establishment and sat outdoors to enjoy the lovely weather and two tables away, a couple had music playing from their phone, loudly. It was not just a kind of music we did not enjoy, it was noise while we wanted to enjoy our lovely outdoor weather at this time of the year.

What does this have to do with radio? Quite a lot, actually. It's the same attitude that makes people want only their own stream and not to share a music experience with others. It's part of why one-to-many radio is fading, particularly in the younger demos. It is "I want my radio station, not our radio station". Sharing is out, personalization is in.

 

[crainbebo]

I know for a fact that headphones are one of the best inventions since sliced bread.
Put some of those darned things over your child's ears in the doctor's office waiting room! I don't want to hear Dora or Paw Patrol coming out of the iPad. Nor does the woman waiting for a CT scan.

And even though 90% of young people still listen to radio, the selfishness is often shown in their music choices. At least 3 times out of 5, if I pass a college student who does not have an airpod in their ears, they are listening to rap or top 40 music. Not Steve Miller. Not George Strait. Not Miles Davis.

 

[AbrahamJSimpson]

How does their musical preference show selfishness? Steve Miller? Miles Davis? George Strait? What on earth is that about?

 

[umfan]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/os...atings-in-shows-history/ar-BBZR6G2?li=BBnb7Kz

The ratings were pretty abysmal despite being the highest rated non-sports show. This level could see it eclipsed by something else this year that is non-sports.

Arguably, they've already been eclipsed in that regard since about 15 million more people watched the State of the Union than the Oscars, it was just broadcast on more channels.

Might want to change the title of this to Oscars 2020, Who Cares?

 

[anotherguyTN]

They got SOOOOOOOO political that if they were a thread here
the mods would have to zot the whole thing.

That's another reason for me not to watch.

 

[vchimpanzee]

They got SOOOOOOOO political that if they were a thread here
the mods would have to zot the whole thing.

Since I had not watched anything that happened during the time this was scheduled to air, I didn't understand. One innocent comment by Brad Pitt? And that didn't necessarily mean anything unless you knew he was a liberal. We're just entitled to a full investigation, regardless of whether anything was done that was that bad.

Then I watched what happened in the time slot for the 11:00 news. Yeah, Joaquin Phoenix just wasted time. Maybe he said some good things, but it was irrelevant to the award.

 

[centerfreqradio]

Not surprised they would run late.Watched about an hour of it when they had the memorial of the people that we lost in the year.,..