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Panama Selects HD Radio

The Republic of Panama has announced that it has selected the HD Radio as its official digital radio standard.

To quote Bob Struble: "Panama’s announcement is the most recent milestone in HD Radio technology becoming a standard around the world."

This is a real coup for Struble. Oops, did I say coup?

Great to see the banana republics are toppling over, oops, I mean, jumping on to the HD bandwagon.

Used to be that the generalisimo's speeches were only available on a dozen government-controlled stations. Now they're on 42 channels.

This could start a real domino effect for HD Radio in Central America. Oops, sorry.

C5
 
Yeah, this is a real coup all right. Let's see how many of Panama's citizens, an appalling percentage of whom live well below the poverty level, can afford an HD radio, let alone the electricity to run it.

I'm breathlessly awaiting Bob Struble's announcement that Sri Lanka, Myanmar, Andorra and Luxembourg have jumped on the alleged bandwagon.
 
"Breaking News!!" iBiquity has announced "The Duchy Of Grand Fenwick" has selected HD as the digital radio standard for the 15 square-mile sovereign territory.

A RFP has been ordered by Duchess Gloriana for a manufacturer to supply a kerosene-operated transmitter.

(Most sincere apologies to the late Leonard Wibberley, author of "The Mouse That Roared")
 
Savage said:
"Breaking News!!" iBiquity has announced "The Duchy Of Grand Fenwick" has selected HD as the digital radio standard for the 15 square-mile sovereign territory.

A RFP has been ordered by Duchess Gloriana for a manufacturer to supply a kerosene-operated transmitter.

(Most sincere apologies to the late Leonard Wibberley, author of "The Mouse That Roared")

But there is "that nasty tin thing" out in the palace lawn. Or is it a tin foil helmet? :p
 
Carmine5 said:
Used to be that the generalisimo's speeches were only available on a dozen government-controlled stations. Now they're on 42 channels.

Panamá just completed another in several decades of democratic elections. There is no "generalísimo" and the country, as the owner of the Panama Canal and several transshipping ports, is quite prosperous.

There is no government controlled radio there.
 
dumber than a box of hair said:
Let's see how many of Panama's citizens, an appalling percentage of whom live well below the poverty level, can afford an HD radio, let alone the electricity to run it.

Panamá is actually doing quite well, benefitting from the ownership of the canal and generating lots of revenue from the Wampoa Hutchinson trans-shipping ports, as well as being the home of international banking between the Americas.

There is nowhere near the poverty you indicate; one evaluates each nation based on the cost of living there, not on US incomes and standards.
 
Savage said:
"Breaking News!!" iBiquity has announced "The Duchy Of Grand Fenwick" has selected HD as the digital radio standard for the 15 square-mile sovereign territory.

A RFP has been ordered by Duchess Gloriana for a manufacturer to supply a kerosene-operated transmitter.

(Most sincere apologies to the late Leonard Wibberley, author of "The Mouse That Roared")

I heard Freedonia and Sylvania are getting a crack at HD too, with the approval of Rufus T. Firefly and Mrs. Teasdale. (Not to worry. Bert Kalmar and Harry Ruby, who wrote the screenplay for "Duck Soup," recognized absurdity when they saw it.)
 
From reading "Executive Decree No. 96" attached to iBiquity's press release, it appears that the underlying 1999 law gives Panamanian licensees only ten years to run hybrid digital before shutting off analog, at least that's the intent. I'll be surprised if it actually works out that way. If they actually attempt to use it on their AM stations, the adjacent channel noise will be worse than a room full of first-graders trying to pronounce the word "isthmus".

Panama may simply become a convenient dumping ground for the used IBOC transmitters which are about to be taken out of service by US broadcasters. We've been unloading junk in Central and South America for years, this is what keeps the used transmitter brokers in business. For example, I learned that the old Wilkinson 10 kW rig (Serial No. 101 with the burned-up PA cavity that used to burn though tubes every 9 months) -- which I traded in for a new BE back in 1987 -- was sold to an unsuspecting buyer "down there", rather than sent directly to the scrapyard. A lot of old analog cell site equioment also ended up in that part of the world.

Like North America, Panama uses a 120V/60Hz line power standard, so it should also be a great place to get rid of all those Accurians and BA Receptors that have been returned to US retailers.
 
Just think, had they had AM IBOC back in 1989, the American Military could have blasted the embassy with sideband hash instead of loud music to drive Noriega out. He would have surrendered in about 10 minutes! ;D
 
DavidEduardo said:
Carmine5 said:
Used to be that the generalisimo's speeches were only available on a dozen government-controlled stations. Now they're on 42 channels.

Panamá just completed another in several decades of democratic elections. There is no "generalísimo" and the country, as the owner of the Panama Canal and several transshipping ports, is quite prosperous.

There is no government controlled radio there.

I'm kidding. No need to get a chili up your !@*&, DE. Personally, I think bringing HD radio to Central America is truly, mmm, revolutionary.

Although, when I heard about HD radio coming to Panama it kind of reminded me of the ruling generals of Myanmar giving DVD players to hurricane victims. Just one of those weird thought associations, I guess.

C5
 
I'm wondering why they didn't test Kahn's CAM-D down there, unless Leonard didn't want to get bitten by mosquitos setting-up the hardware as they 'supposedly' did test DRM and DAB+ (so they say).
 
Looking through a list of AM and FM stations for Panama, this could be interesting: Almost every frequency from 540 to 1600 is occupied with a station, so when a station lights up their HD, good luck listening to an out of town station on an adjacent frequency. On FM in Panama City for example, stations are often spaced 400 or 600 kHz away from each other, so buh-bye listening to stations outside of the city on adjacent frequencies thanks to the HD Fuzzblaster. But I suspect that listeners in that part of the world are fiercely loyal about listening to their local stations, so there will probably be few complaints.
 
Central America: "33 1/3 Revolutions Per Minute." Maybe HD will start a new one!

HD Radio: Interferes with others. Interferes with YOU!! No real benefits. Huge cost increases. Screws up PPM (if it still exists....). And could lead to the violent overthrow of your cushy political regime! :D
 
stormy01 said:
Looking through a list of AM and FM stations for Panama, this could be interesting: Almost every frequency from 540 to 1600 is occupied with a station, so when a station lights up their HD, good luck listening to an out of town station on an adjacent frequency. On FM in Panama City for example, stations are often spaced 400 or 600 kHz away from each other, so buh-bye listening to stations outside of the city on adjacent frequencies thanks to the HD Fuzzblaster. But I suspect that listeners in that part of the world are fiercely loyal about listening to their local stations, so there will probably be few complaints.

In most parts of Latin America, radio is centralized, with multiple stations retransmitting around the country in a simulcast network. While Panama has a lot of strictly local stations, most are now networked. Many of the AMs are off the air, too, although they appear as licensed.

Because most FMs in Latin America are not way up on mountains and such, the coverage areas are metro, and there is little if any listening outside a market and its environs. Sure, there are a few exceptions, but this is the rule in Latin America.
 
JohnnyElectron said:
I'm wondering why they didn't test Kahn's CAM-D down there, unless Leonard didn't want to get bitten by mosquitos setting-up the hardware as they 'supposedly' did test DRM and DAB+ (so they say).

Disease bearing mosquitos and malaria have been erradicated there, and have been for a loooooooong time. Panama City is as modern as San Diego or Phoenix!

And the broadcasters there don't adopt things instantly... they wait and watch, which shows why so few in LAtin America adopted C Quam. But Brazil has hundreds of HD staitons on the air now!
 
DavidEduardo said:
JohnnyElectron said:
I'm wondering why they didn't test Kahn's CAM-D down there, unless Leonard didn't want to get bitten by mosquitos setting-up the hardware as they 'supposedly' did test DRM and DAB+ (so they say).

Disease bearing mosquitos and malaria have been erradicated there, and have been for a loooooooong time. Panama City is as modern as San Diego or Phoenix!

And the broadcasters there don't adopt things instantly... they wait and watch, which shows why so few in LAtin America adopted C Quam. But Brazil has hundreds of HD staitons on the air now!

You can still get quite a case of Dengue (or stabbed) in Colon, however.

David is right about the networking, most of Costa Rica's big FMs transmit in synchronized fashion from 3 or 4 different sites (with full power) in order to cover most of that mountainous country on a single frequency. And, those systems generally work flawlessly.

Still, the HD thing makes absolutely no sense to me down there. Where's the upside for the average listener? Most electronics are more expensive in Latin American countries than they are here. The ugly, power sucking cubes that are hard to get here would be impossible to get down there.

And, where's the clamor for more variety? Without craploads of religious and other ego-case stations (hello Pacifica?) cluttering the dial, I've found much more variety on the radio in a place like San Jose or Caracas than you get in New York! Where's the need for HD-2 and HD-3 signals? As for AM, no one listens to it down there. Most of those stations already sound so bad and over-modulated that throwing on the jammer will probably hash up half the dial.

And, again, who do they think is going to be spending the money on this? David's comment on pverty is relative. Yes, coutries like Panama or Costa Rica or Chile aren't in poverty, nor are they the proverbial 'banana republics'...but the vast majority in such countries still live on something like 1/4 of the income that we take for granted here. If people here are loth to plop down the money for an HD radio (the penetration is something like 0.3% here), how many will buy them in these places? How many in Panama will pay for those ugly, poorly performing, power sucking cubes that fit nowhere?

For example, mine is a piece of crap that has to be unplugged to keep from turning itself on at 3 am (and freaking out my wife!) and it cost $100 at Best Buy. Biggest POS I've ever purchased. And it takes something like 6 minutes to decode HD on a 4/5 FM signal - it won't decode anything on AM. The same piece of crap will go for $180 in Panama - given the taxes and transport charges. Who is going to pay that? Hmmmm? Who? No one I've ever met in Latin America, that's for sure - and most of my friends are in the upper classes. The "average" Panamanian would never think of it. But they will suffer the new hash on their radios.

Is it worth mucking up the band to sell what will amount to 17 overpriced radios? I think not. The whole thing COULD end up being, errrr, revolutionary! :eek:

P.S.: IBOC is crap technology. You want digital? Put it elsewhere in the spectrum.
 
BRNout said:
Who is going to pay that? Hmmmm? Who? No one I've ever met in Latin America, that's for sure - and most of my friends are in the upper classes. The "average" Panamanian would never think of it. But they will suffer the new hash on their radios.

I think the objective is to be digital, which vould have big snob appeal.

In Mexico, some of the stations with the lowest audience make the most money... because they appeal to the highest income levels. This is the sort of thing that could play to that type of audience.

When I put on my first FM in Ecuador, there were no FMs for 1000 miles around. Within a year, about 30,000 FM radios, costing a minimum of $150 US in '64 dollars, had been sold, and the station was #2 in upper income levels and top 10 in middle income levels.
 
Setting aside the fascinating notion that HD's success in Latin American will be sealed by Panamanian snobs, I agree with Freebird: the "elephant's graveyard" for decommissioned US broadcast gear has traditionally been Central and South America and the Caribbean. That's where Dick Witkowski's BESCO Internacional has been making a nice living for decades peddling tube-type behemoths and orphan equipment.

Ahh, talk about the "dream transmitting plant!" I can see it in the mind's eye: A Raytheon RA-1000, fed by a Gates Level-Devil, SA-39B limiting amplifier....and an iBiquity Decepticon! Or mix-and-match with your favorite RCA Ampliphase, "fire-in-the-hole" BTF-20 FM real-life blowtorch, CCA "King Of No Breakdowns," etc., etc.
 
Savage said:
Ahh, talk about the "dream transmitting plant!" I can see it in the mind's eye: A Raytheon RA-1000, fed by a Gates Level-Devil, SA-39B limiting amplifier....and an iBiquity Decepticon! Or mix-and-match with your favorite RCA Ampliphase, "fire-in-the-hole" BTF-20 FM real-life blowtorch, CCA "King Of No Breakdowns," etc., etc.

Or, look at the more typical transmitter facility for Latin America today... http://www.davidgleason.com/Argentina Radio 10 Transmitter.htm

This is Radio 10 in Buenos Aires, 100 kw with two solid state Nautels and a half wave tower on 710 AM, a news staff of nearly 40, and a morning news magazine with 7 anchors.

The crappy old gear goes to small markets and evangelical religious stations... the major market stations would put most US stations to shame.
 
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