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Pandora...

How does Pandora get by with limiting the listening hours online to 40, but the mobile listening hours are unlimited? Do they pay less royalties for mobile or something?

Rather odd.
 
The 40 hour limit is an attempt to bring in more cash by having people pay $1 per month or buy Pandora One. If you follow their financial data closely, you will notice that they make more ad revenues than they pay in royalties. Therefore they are making money per hour whether you listen 40 hours per month or 100 hours per month. They are still losing money overall, but that is because of other expenses.

As scanman1 mentioned, Slacker is free and offers unlimited listening. It also offers better selection and customization along with more skips. The downside to Slacker is that they have a few more ads.
 
Casey said:
The 40 hour limit is an attempt to bring in more cash by having people pay $1 per month or buy Pandora One. If you follow their financial data closely, you will notice that they make more ad revenues than they pay in royalties. Therefore they are making money per hour whether you listen 40 hours per month or 100 hours per month. They are still losing money overall, but that is because of other expenses.

As scanman1 mentioned, Slacker is free and offers unlimited listening. It also offers better selection and customization along with more skips. The downside to Slacker is that they have a few more ads.
I get it now. So are they having to pay royalties for songs played on mobile or is that exempt somehow (I'm thinking not)? I've been listening to my custom smooth jazz station on my Blackberry since my hours ran out and there are no ads or interruptions whatsoever. Much better than the website. I'm surprised they let you get by with this, I'm even using my account that ran out of hours.
 
They have to pay royalties for their mobile service as well. The royalties to my knowledge should be the same price as Pandora does not have special licenses with the record labels.

The mobile service for Pandora is rather odd considering how restrictive they are on their website. The mobile service does not have an hour limit and seems to have far fewer ads. I am going to take a guess and say that mobile ads are worth more per ad as they are more targeted.
 
For the Blackberry app, I can verify there are no ads. I listen to song after song, no interruption. I guess they are figuring listeners aren't as inclined to listen for long amounts of time on mobile like on a computer.
 
carolinaradio said:
For the Blackberry app, I can verify there are no ads. I listen to song after song, no interruption. I guess they are figuring listeners aren't as inclined to listen for long amounts of time on mobile like on a computer.

I have a blackberry and my Pandora app has ads...about 1 ad for every 5th song.
 
The problem I have found with Slacker (mobile) is that it only allows 6 skips per station. That makes the app pretty useless to me. I have not found this to be an issue with Pandora mobile. Does Pandora mobile even have a skip limit?
 
Pandora actually has a much more restrictive policy when it comes to skips. Slacker Basic is 6 skips per, per station. Pandora is 6 skips per hour across all stations, with a maximum of 12 total skips per day.

Pandora One is 6 skips per hour total, with no daily limit. Slacker Plus is unlimited skips.

However, Pandora is doing a very poor job at implementing all their policies on anything, so I would not be surprised if skips do not apply for you. Ads apply for some people, some not.
 
To correct my previous post, Pandora has a 6 skip per hour limit per station, not total.

Well I decided to try the Pandora Sidebar Gadget. First impression... not bad at all.

It offers most of the functionality of that of the web player, without advertisements of any sort. The daily skip limit does not apply to the gadget, but the 6 song limit per station per hour, does. It works flawlessly and is out of the way when I don't want it, and there when I want do. Works well on both Vista and 7.

I have heard, but cannot yet confirm that the 40 hour limit does not apply to the gadget. My Pandora account has a ways to go before I will know for sure, but I will post back when I find out.
 
After using the gadget for a significant amount of time, I can confirm that the 40-hour limit does not apply to the gadget. However, the functionality is more reduced that I originally thought.

I still don't like Pandora, but their gadget is not bad. It would be nice to see more services offering a gadget.
 
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