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Parasit 101.1 fm okc and Hot 101.1 fm okc

>WHOA WHOA WHOA HOLD UP!!!!!
please.
major confusion going on here.
I think Todd failed to mention something here.
there are in deed TWO, yes 2, unlicensed transmitters operating
on 101.1fm, independently.
The first website listed here was ours, www.pirateaudio.org.
We are in NO relation to Todd Roberts or Hot fm...www.hot101fm.net.
Parasite 101.1 fm is not a station, its just a small xmitter, a peice of eqipiment
just like a drum machine or sequencer, to us.
We are a small collective of oklahoma artists and musicians who use the 101.1 fm frequency
as an outlet for our creativity.
We operate a small 10 watt fm transmitter by the Penn Square mall area.
Our signal can be picked up from nw 40th to nw 63rd, and from nw Shartel to nw Penn,
We are a very small signal and have been transmitting since last summer.
We have never been really too afraid of the big bad fcc til just recently because we have
been so unnoticeable to most but our fans and friends in the area.
We couldnt hide ourselves if we tried from internet searches so bother?
We know exactly how the fcc goes about there confiscations etc, and we are quite fine with that.
Someone has to complain or one of you vigelante types needs to tip them off about us,
or unless we are using substandard (im talking southenr engineered) that creates bleed or interferrance.
we are fully aware of the law, so please dont start that "irelevant - your going to jail" smart ass loop.
we know exactly the nature of the fcc and the whole corporate industry game, no one here wants or desires to work for a radio station, we merely want to play our music on a signal that isnt being used, what happens next, happens next, we are quite prepared to play the game.

a. They will issue a notice to the home of the xmitter, stating to cease operations in 30 days.
for us, thats game over, til then, we will continue.
b.When they arrive to take the candy jar, they will have a warrent for the location of the radio station, and will ask them where its at,well, since the coaxe cable is only long enough to run 5 feet from the tree with the antanae, our "station" is in a shoebox in someones backyard.
so if they bypass step one, scenario 2 isnt so bad.
c.Our transmitter was a gift, it was hand made by a tech who makes and sells kits, who will replace it when/if it goes.
d.An fcc raid will only make our next cd sales fly and we wil fully exploit it to our benefit..
e. Considering all the above, i doubt they will even issue a fine or confiscate non station equipment...if we cooperate.
so all was cool with our lil private fm radio world till....
2 weeks ago we noticed our transmissions were being wiped out by Todd's station.
Our signal when they broadcast is knocked down to a city block.
Let me state once again, we are not affiliated.
After some confusion, Todd and I made contact and we were in the midst of negotiating
the frequency between us when all this erupted on here.
Until Hotfm hit hard, we were operating rather openly but not in an agressive manner.
Our name itself is often associated with piracy, though it had more to do with throwing renegade concerts back in the 90's and not music/art piracy. We do not endorse theft of any sort, wether its frequency or
music, copyright is copyright, and being musicians, (we dont have radio djs or personalitys, just music or the occasion interview with select artists), we respect other artists rights.
There have been 2 other fm micropower broadcasters in the Oklahoma/Moore area and we have created a good support group of techs. We all pretty much felt we were community voices in our areas, local musicians and listeners heavily support us because they know our content is truly unique and original.
Each of us play a unique sound that generally does not get attention in the city.
there are now 4 including Hot fm.
Hotfm on the otherhand plays a more contemporary urban kj/the buzz/the spy/ style party jam sound, so that it does compete, though not on purpose i believe, with the other stations listeners,thus bring the heat of those supporters and backers.
We doe not think of ourselves as a " radio station".

Noun 1. radio station radio station - station for the production and transmission of radio broadcasts
station - a facility equipped with special equipment and personnel for a particular purpose; "he started looking for a gas station"; "the train pulled into the station"

we are neither of those.
we have a small transmitter we plug a mp3 player into, and leave next to a tree in one of our members yards.
that is no station.

Our main goal transmitting is to bump our music and our friends music in the inner city area.
The local stations wont play our music, top 40 radio is not open, and local shows that do exist are locked up, so this is our voice.
the whole "stations spend loads on finding out what the majority wants" is shite....and really meaningless when it concerns us.

We play 60% original content by our collective group, 30% local artists, and 10% outside artists who have submitted content.
The outside artists who have submitted are internationally recognised pioneers in the electronic music industry and give us unreleased material.
We represent a voice that does not get support from local radio and we offer electronic music
culture to oklahomans in the inner urban area.
So really, are we pirates or just citizens using there voice.
the law may be the law, but it takes rightous citizens to stand up and break unjust laws.
we believe in regulation, but not the way the fcc runs things and we will continue to do our thing until they come to take it from us.
 
Let me get this straight...two pirates fighting over the same frequency? Wow. Reminds me of two monkeys f-ing the same football.

> >WHOA WHOA WHOA HOLD UP!!!!!
> please.
> major confusion going on here.
> I think Todd failed to mention something here.
> there are in deed TWO, yes 2, unlicensed transmitters
> operating
> on 101.1fm, independently.
> The first website listed here was ours, www.pirateaudio.org.
>
> We are in NO relation to Todd Roberts or Hot
> fm...www.hot101fm.net.
> Parasite 101.1 fm is not a station, its just a small
> xmitter, a peice of eqipiment
> just like a drum machine or sequencer, to us.
> We are a small collective of oklahoma artists and musicians
> who use the 101.1 fm frequency
> as an outlet for our creativity.
> We operate a small 10 watt fm transmitter by the Penn Square
> mall area.
> Our signal can be picked up from nw 40th to nw 63rd, and
> from nw Shartel to nw Penn,
> We are a very small signal and have been transmitting since
> last summer.
> We have never been really too afraid of the big bad fcc til
> just recently because we have
> been so unnoticeable to most but our fans and friends in the
> area.
> We couldnt hide ourselves if we tried from internet searches
> so bother?
> We know exactly how the fcc goes about there confiscations
> etc, and we are quite fine with that.
> Someone has to complain or one of you vigelante types needs
> to tip them off about us,
> or unless we are using substandard (im talking southenr
> engineered) that creates bleed or interferrance.
> we are fully aware of the law, so please dont start that
> "irelevant - your going to jail" smart ass loop.
> we know exactly the nature of the fcc and the whole
> corporate industry game, no one here wants or desires to
> work for a radio station, we merely want to play our music
> on a signal that isnt being used, what happens next, happens
> next, we are quite prepared to play the game.
>
> a. They will issue a notice to the home of the xmitter,
> stating to cease operations in 30 days.
> for us, thats game over, til then, we will continue.
> b.When they arrive to take the candy jar, they will have a
> warrent for the location of the radio station, and will ask
> them where its at,well, since the coaxe cable is only long
> enough to run 5 feet from the tree with the antanae, our
> "station" is in a shoebox in someones backyard.
> so if they bypass step one, scenario 2 isnt so bad.
> c.Our transmitter was a gift, it was hand made by a tech who
> makes and sells kits, who will replace it when/if it goes.
> d.An fcc raid will only make our next cd sales fly and we
> wil fully exploit it to our benefit..
> e. Considering all the above, i doubt they will even issue a
> fine or confiscate non station equipment...if we cooperate.
> so all was cool with our lil private fm radio world till....
>
> 2 weeks ago we noticed our transmissions were being wiped
> out by Todd's station.
> Our signal when they broadcast is knocked down to a city
> block.
> Let me state once again, we are not affiliated.
> After some confusion, Todd and I made contact and we were in
> the midst of negotiating
> the frequency between us when all this erupted on here.
> Until Hotfm hit hard, we were operating rather openly but
> not in an agressive manner.
> Our name itself is often associated with piracy, though it
> had more to do with throwing renegade concerts back in the
> 90's and not music/art piracy. We do not endorse theft of
> any sort, wether its frequency or
> music, copyright is copyright, and being musicians, (we dont
> have radio djs or personalitys, just music or the occasion
> interview with select artists), we respect other artists
> rights.
> There have been 2 other fm micropower broadcasters in the
> Oklahoma/Moore area and we have created a good support group
> of techs. We all pretty much felt we were community voices
> in our areas, local musicians and listeners heavily support
> us because they know our content is truly unique and
> original.
> Each of us play a unique sound that generally does not get
> attention in the city.
> there are now 4 including Hot fm.
> Hotfm on the otherhand plays a more contemporary urban
> kj/the buzz/the spy/ style party jam sound, so that it does
> compete, though not on purpose i believe, with the other
> stations listeners,thus bring the heat of those supporters
> and backers.
> We doe not think of ourselves as a " radio station".
>
> Noun 1. radio station radio station - station for the
> production and transmission of radio broadcasts
> station - a facility equipped with special equipment and
> personnel for a particular purpose; "he started looking for
> a gas station"; "the train pulled into the station"
>
> we are neither of those.
> we have a small transmitter we plug a mp3 player into, and
> leave next to a tree in one of our members yards.
> that is no station.
>
> Our main goal transmitting is to bump our music and our
> friends music in the inner city area.
> The local stations wont play our music, top 40 radio is not
> open, and local shows that do exist are locked up, so this
> is our voice.
> the whole "stations spend loads on finding out what the
> majority wants" is shite....and really meaningless when it
> concerns us.
>
> We play 60% original content by our collective group, 30%
> local artists, and 10% outside artists who have submitted
> content.
> The outside artists who have submitted are internationally
> recognised pioneers in the electronic music industry and
> give us unreleased material.
> We represent a voice that does not get support from local
> radio and we offer electronic music
> culture to oklahomans in the inner urban area.
> So really, are we pirates or just citizens using there
> voice.
> the law may be the law, but it takes rightous citizens to
> stand up and break unjust laws.
> we believe in regulation, but not the way the fcc runs
> things and we will continue to do our thing until they come
> to take it from us.
>
<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by ionosphere on 04/11/06 09:46 PM.</FONT></P>
 
No ones fighting, we were both negotiating and co-operating to reach an agreement when all this drama unfolded, and we have our own footballs..

> Let me get this straight...two pirates fighting over the
> same frequency? Wow. Reminds me of two monkeys f-ing the
> same football.
>
> > >WHOA WHOA WHOA HOLD UP!!!!!
> > please.
> > major confusion going on here.
> > I think Todd failed to mention something here.
> > there are in deed TWO, yes 2, unlicensed transmitters
> > operating
> > on 101.1fm, independently.
> > The first website listed here was ours,
> www.pirateaudio.org.
> >
> > We are in NO relation to Todd Roberts or Hot
> > fm...www.hot101fm.net.
> > Parasite 101.1 fm is not a station, its just a small
> > xmitter, a peice of eqipiment
> > just like a drum machine or sequencer, to us.
> > We are a small collective of oklahoma artists and
> musicians
> > who use the 101.1 fm frequency
> > as an outlet for our creativity.
> > We operate a small 10 watt fm transmitter by the Penn
> Square
> > mall area.
> > Our signal can be picked up from nw 40th to nw 63rd, and
> > from nw Shartel to nw Penn,
> > We are a very small signal and have been transmitting
> since
> > last summer.
> > We have never been really too afraid of the big bad fcc
> til
> > just recently because we have
> > been so unnoticeable to most but our fans and friends in
> the
> > area.
> > We couldnt hide ourselves if we tried from internet
> searches
> > so bother?
> > We know exactly how the fcc goes about there confiscations
>
> > etc, and we are quite fine with that.
> > Someone has to complain or one of you vigelante types
> needs
> > to tip them off about us,
> > or unless we are using substandard (im talking southenr
> > engineered) that creates bleed or interferrance.
> > we are fully aware of the law, so please dont start that
> > "irelevant - your going to jail" smart ass loop.
> > we know exactly the nature of the fcc and the whole
> > corporate industry game, no one here wants or desires to
> > work for a radio station, we merely want to play our music
>
> > on a signal that isnt being used, what happens next,
> happens
> > next, we are quite prepared to play the game.
> >
> > a. They will issue a notice to the home of the xmitter,
> > stating to cease operations in 30 days.
> > for us, thats game over, til then, we will continue.
> > b.When they arrive to take the candy jar, they will have a
>
> > warrent for the location of the radio station, and will
> ask
> > them where its at,well, since the coaxe cable is only long
>
> > enough to run 5 feet from the tree with the antanae, our
> > "station" is in a shoebox in someones backyard.
> > so if they bypass step one, scenario 2 isnt so bad.
> > c.Our transmitter was a gift, it was hand made by a tech
> who
> > makes and sells kits, who will replace it when/if it goes.
>
> > d.An fcc raid will only make our next cd sales fly and we
> > wil fully exploit it to our benefit..
> > e. Considering all the above, i doubt they will even issue
> a
> > fine or confiscate non station equipment...if we
> cooperate.
> > so all was cool with our lil private fm radio world
> till....
> >
> > 2 weeks ago we noticed our transmissions were being wiped
>
> > out by Todd's station.
> > Our signal when they broadcast is knocked down to a city
> > block.
> > Let me state once again, we are not affiliated.
> > After some confusion, Todd and I made contact and we were
> in
> > the midst of negotiating
> > the frequency between us when all this erupted on here.
> > Until Hotfm hit hard, we were operating rather openly but
> > not in an agressive manner.
> > Our name itself is often associated with piracy, though
> it
> > had more to do with throwing renegade concerts back in the
>
> > 90's and not music/art piracy. We do not endorse theft of
> > any sort, wether its frequency or
> > music, copyright is copyright, and being musicians, (we
> dont
> > have radio djs or personalitys, just music or the occasion
>
> > interview with select artists), we respect other artists
> > rights.
> > There have been 2 other fm micropower broadcasters in the
> > Oklahoma/Moore area and we have created a good support
> group
> > of techs. We all pretty much felt we were community voices
>
> > in our areas, local musicians and listeners heavily
> support
> > us because they know our content is truly unique and
> > original.
> > Each of us play a unique sound that generally does not get
>
> > attention in the city.
> > there are now 4 including Hot fm.
> > Hotfm on the otherhand plays a more contemporary urban
> > kj/the buzz/the spy/ style party jam sound, so that it
> does
> > compete, though not on purpose i believe, with the other
> > stations listeners,thus bring the heat of those supporters
>
> > and backers.
> > We doe not think of ourselves as a " radio station".
> >
> > Noun 1. radio station radio station - station for the
> > production and transmission of radio broadcasts
> > station - a facility equipped with special equipment and
> > personnel for a particular purpose; "he started looking
> for
> > a gas station"; "the train pulled into the station"
> >
> > we are neither of those.
> > we have a small transmitter we plug a mp3 player into, and
>
> > leave next to a tree in one of our members yards.
> > that is no station.
> >
> > Our main goal transmitting is to bump our music and our
> > friends music in the inner city area.
> > The local stations wont play our music, top 40 radio is
> not
> > open, and local shows that do exist are locked up, so this
>
> > is our voice.
> > the whole "stations spend loads on finding out what the
> > majority wants" is shite....and really meaningless when it
>
> > concerns us.
> >
> > We play 60% original content by our collective group, 30%
> > local artists, and 10% outside artists who have submitted
> > content.
> > The outside artists who have submitted are internationally
>
> > recognised pioneers in the electronic music industry and
> > give us unreleased material.
> > We represent a voice that does not get support from local
> > radio and we offer electronic music
> > culture to oklahomans in the inner urban area.
> > So really, are we pirates or just citizens using there
> > voice.
> > the law may be the law, but it takes rightous citizens to
> > stand up and break unjust laws.
> > we believe in regulation, but not the way the fcc runs
> > things and we will continue to do our thing until they
> come
> > to take it from us.
> >
>
 
> No ones fighting, we were both negotiating and co-operating
> to reach an agreement when all this drama unfolded, and we
> have our own footballs..

Heh.. Would that be two "STOLEN" footballs?

LOL!

(just giving you guys some hell)

We all know you guys are causing sooooooo much harmful interference. LOL! How long did it take them to even discover you were even on the air?! Have you EVERY got a complaint about causing HARMFUL interference to ANYONE? I didn't think so!

While you're trying to figure out what new channel to switch to, here's some food for thought..

http://www.recnet.com/cdbs/lpfm.php?latd=35.4823&lond=97.535&cls=L2&mode=reject

Take a look at that and it'll give you a real good idea of what's out there. "NEW" channels generally aren't on the air yet. If one doesn't observe the second-adjacent stupidity of the damn NAB politicians, you'll notice there's are several places lower-powered stuff like these guys would fit nicely. What makes me laugh is how the Commission will allow God-Channel translators from a thousand miles away on a channel with sometimes even several hundred watts, but some poor smuck or group of smucks can't have a watt. What makes the God-Channel people so special? Are they serving the local public? REALLY?

Yeah, right.

FCC = gullible<P ID="signature">______________
--- THE Insultant ---</P>
 
You're an ******

None of that drivel matters. You are still operating an unlicensed broadcast. You will still lose your equipment. You will still most likely face a fine.

Frankly, if I were in your position, I wouldn't be bragging about it on this message board. Your lawyer can explain why for you.<P ID="signature">______________
"Random CHR Programming Mind"
</P>
 
Re: You're an ******

> None of that drivel matters. You are still operating an
> unlicensed broadcast. You will still lose your equipment.
> You will still most likely face a fine.
>
> Frankly, if I were in your position, I wouldn't be bragging
> about it on this message board. Your lawyer can explain why
> for you.

He reminds me of those people who speed and drive recklessly down the interstate with a car full of drugs and get caught by the police. In other words, he's asking to get caught. And you wonder why.
<P ID="signature">______________
"...and the countdown continues until the neanderthals that govern college football do something about their pathetic postseason."--Tim Brando, Sporting News Radio</P>
 
From your website:

"the "other" 101.1 fm (hot 101 fm) has been in contact with us,( read the past blogs for full story) they are running 30 watt fm with a 60 foot antanae. that explains how they bleed over our little 10 watt so bad. we have discussed several options to fix the dilema. they were going to move to 101.5 but after last week, they want to transmit during the week and let us have the weekend.

the local licensed stations in oklahoma city have a vigelante mindframe and will do the groundwork for the fcc gladly, tracking down pirates and recasting there signal so the fcc can listen and find them easier.
so, that all said and done, we are currently playing it all by ear now."


Ever thought of becoming a real radio personality on a real station
with a real license? It can't be too hard -- I've done it for
over 25 years.
 
and You're an closed ******

>and none of that really matters because,
a. we ,most likely wont face a fine.
b. the equipment can be freely replaced....and its a whole 3 peices of gear.
wouldnt be the first peice stolen from us, big deal.
c. we dont care if its unlicensed broadcast, and like i stated,
whats to hide from a bunch of webgeeks?
the fcc isnt going to flip nearly as hard on our small weekend operation
as you guys.
a simple letter notifying us to stop transmitting will be the most of the action
they take.
 
Thats none of our dream occupations man.
We are programmers, graphic artists and musicians, not radio personalitys.
if hot 101.1 want to do that, whatever, but thats not anyone in Pirate Audio's plans.

> From your website:
>
> "the "other" 101.1 fm (hot 101 fm) has been in contact with
> us,( read the past blogs for full story) they are running 30
> watt fm with a 60 foot antanae. that explains how they bleed
> over our little 10 watt so bad. we have discussed several
> options to fix the dilema. they were going to move to 101.5
> but after last week, they want to transmit during the week
> and let us have the weekend.
>
> the local licensed stations in oklahoma city have a
> vigelante mindframe and will do the groundwork for the fcc
> gladly, tracking down pirates and recasting there signal so
> the fcc can listen and find them easier.
> so, that all said and done, we are currently playing it all
> by ear now."
>
>
> Ever thought of becoming a real radio personality on a real
> station
> with a real license? It can't be too hard -- I've done it
> for
> over 25 years.
>
 
Re: You're an ******

You remind me of those people who supported Bush and the Patriot act.
Do you think your 14 year old daughter is safe when the Homeland Security Personel get busted trying to seduce underage kids?
Nothing is ever what it seems.
Take a look closely at what side of the fence your all sitting on.



> > None of that drivel matters. You are still operating an
> > unlicensed broadcast. You will still lose your equipment.
>
> > You will still most likely face a fine.
> >
> > Frankly, if I were in your position, I wouldn't be
> bragging
> > about it on this message board. Your lawyer can explain
> why
> > for you.
>
> He reminds me of those people who speed and drive recklessly
> down the interstate with a car full of drugs and get caught
> by the police. In other words, he's asking to get caught.
> And you wonder why.
>
 
> Thats none of our dream occupations man.
> We are programmers, graphic artists and musicians, not radio
> personalitys.
> if hot 101.1 want to do that, whatever, but thats not anyone
> in Pirate Audio's plans.
>

You do not aspire to have a career in radio. Yet, you run a pirate station. Makes total sense.
 
Re: You're an ******

> You remind me of those people who supported Bush and the
> Patriot act.
> Do you think your 14 year old daughter is safe when the
> Homeland Security Personel get busted trying to seduce
> underage kids?
> Nothing is ever what it seems.
> Take a look closely at what side of the fence your all
> sitting on.
>

That's all very cryptic. However, the fact still remains that YOU run an illegal, unlicensed radio station. No matter how you try to spin it, it is illegal. Do I belive it should be? Not necessarily. I don't believe that U-turns should be illegal, but they are. And rather than risk getting a ticket for making a U-turn, I'll take the extra minute or two to turn around in a parking lot. Just like rather than running a pirate station and risk getting a fine and losing whatever I paid for the equipment, I went to school (imagine that), and now I get paid for working in radio. Strange how things like that work.

If this is your way of "sticking it to the man", you're doing a bad job of it.
 
Re: You're an ******

how are we doing a bad job of it?
i see that you all like to throw names and insults, but still, no one
has pointed the flaws of what we are doing?
we want the music we create broadcast out to the public,
and we are doing it.
no different than when we rent our own venues to do our own shows, we can do it ourselves and give a proper example on how to do it...without having to wait and play the "me next" game with the local conceret promoters.
no ones going to wipe our ass but ourselves.

Our peers in the local community and the music industry seem to be impressed, so i think we must be doing the right thing.
regardless of the law or you think.
we too went to school and got our little pieces of paper, so we have the ability to do our projects without depending on it to make a us a living.
thats what jobs are for.
its all part of the mythos and the adventure, and when this is all done with, regardless of the fines or gear confiscations, we'll be the ones in the paper, on the news, websites, and magazines....its just promotion.
we may even make a documentary about it befor hand, staring maybe now....
personally i would rather this be a riaa situation than a fcc, but seeing the fcc use u.s. marshals, this may make for better pictures.

as for the uturn, just try to watch where you drive in the first place and you wont need to make that u-turn.


> > You remind me of those people who supported Bush and the
> > Patriot act.
> > Do you think your 14 year old daughter is safe when the
> > Homeland Security Personel get busted trying to seduce
> > underage kids?
> > Nothing is ever what it seems.
> > Take a look closely at what side of the fence your all
> > sitting on.
> >
>
> That's all very cryptic. However, the fact still remains
> that YOU run an illegal, unlicensed radio station. No matter
> how you try to spin it, it is illegal. Do I belive it should
> be? Not necessarily. I don't believe that U-turns should be
> illegal, but they are. And rather than risk getting a ticket
> for making a U-turn, I'll take the extra minute or two to
> turn around in a parking lot. Just like rather than running
> a pirate station and risk getting a fine and losing whatever
> I paid for the equipment, I went to school (imagine that),
> and now I get paid for working in radio. Strange how things
> like that work.
>
> If this is your way of "sticking it to the man", you're
> doing a bad job of it.
>
 
Re: You're an ******

> i see that you all like to throw names and insults, but
> still, no one has pointed the flaws of what we are doing?

Wow...do you realize it's impossible to understand your writing without taking wild guesses at what is meant?

If I've guessed correctly, the answer is, "IT'S ILLEGAL!"


> we want the music we create broadcast out to the public,
> and we are doing it.

"We...we...we..."

That's what pirates are always all about -- themselves! It's not about "the public" ever! It's all another way for you guys to pleasure yourselves.

Bottom line is this: if "the public" had any interest in hearing you people pleasure yourselves, we'd be airing it, ourselves!


> no different than when we rent our own venues to do our own
> shows, we can do it ourselves and give a proper example on
> how to do it...without having to wait and play the "me next"
> game with the local conceret promoters.

Uh, no...it's entirely different! It's perfectly legal for you to go rent a room and play!


> no ones going to wipe our ass but ourselves.

I'm glad you have an accurate appraisal of your own music! You're the first I've ever seen! Congratulations!


> Our peers in the local community and the music industry seem
> to be impressed, so i think we must be doing the right
> thing.

Either that, or they just say that because it's what gets you to shut up and leave the fastest.


> we too went to school and got our little pieces of paper,...

How'd you ever get a "little piece of paper" with those communication skills???

At any rate, it's irrelevant.


> so we have the ability to do our projects without depending on
> it to make a us a living.

Irrelevant.


> its all part of the mythos and the adventure, and when this
> is all done with, regardless of the fines or gear
> confiscations, we'll be the ones in the paper, on the news,
> websites, and magazines....its just promotion.

Promotion of something no one wants. You'll be, at best, just like the twins on "American Idol" -- maybe slightly talented, but known as people who are *not* liked and who *do not* want to be heard.

Look...another bottom line: Record labels are desperate -- especially right now -- to find acts that "the people" want to hear. If you can't even convince a desperate label to sign you, then you...have your answer.


> we may even make a documentary about it befor hand, staring
> maybe now....

...that no one will watch.

I'm noticing a trend -- you people are passionate about pleasuring only yourselves; you do what you do not for "the people" but at their expense!


> personally i would rather this be a riaa situation than a
> fcc, but seeing the fcc use u.s. marshals, this may make for
> better pictures.

That makes no sense in so many ways, the least of which is the irrelevance of the RIAA to this discussion.
 
Re: You're an ******

who ever said those venues were legal, you would be amazed at how many illegal music venues operate in this city.
we...we..we..., yes, we, the people.
and , yes, we have many releases on multiple record labels, staring with a back catalog that goes to 1994, and some members have been aproached about the oklahoma music hall of fame.
these are not kids with a toy.
nothing you said was intelligent.
**************************************
> > i see that you all like to throw names and insults, but
> > still, no one has pointed the flaws of what we are doing?
>
> Wow...do you realize it's impossible to understand your
> writing without taking wild guesses at what is meant?
>
> If I've guessed correctly, the answer is, "IT'S ILLEGAL!"
>
>
> > we want the music we create broadcast out to the public,
> > and we are doing it.
>
> "We...we...we..."
>
> That's what pirates are always all about -- themselves!
> It's not about "the public" ever! It's all another way for
> you guys to pleasure yourselves.
>
> Bottom line is this: if "the public" had any interest in
> hearing you people pleasure yourselves, we'd be airing it,
> ourselves!
>
>
> > no different than when we rent our own venues to do our
> own
> > shows, we can do it ourselves and give a proper example on
>
> > how to do it...without having to wait and play the "me
> next"
> > game with the local conceret promoters.
>
> Uh, no...it's entirely different! It's perfectly legal for
> you to go rent a room and play!
>
>
> > no ones going to wipe our ass but ourselves.
>
> I'm glad you have an accurate appraisal of your own music!
> You're the first I've ever seen! Congratulations!
>
>
> > Our peers in the local community and the music industry
> seem
> > to be impressed, so i think we must be doing the right
> > thing.
>
> Either that, or they just say that because it's what gets
> you to shut up and leave the fastest.
>
>
> > we too went to school and got our little pieces of
> paper,...
>
> How'd you ever get a "little piece of paper" with those
> communication skills???
>
> At any rate, it's irrelevant.
>
>
> > so we have the ability to do our projects without
> depending on
> > it to make a us a living.
>
> Irrelevant.
>
>
> > its all part of the mythos and the adventure, and when
> this
> > is all done with, regardless of the fines or gear
> > confiscations, we'll be the ones in the paper, on the
> news,
> > websites, and magazines....its just promotion.
>
> Promotion of something no one wants. You'll be, at best,
> just like the twins on "American Idol" -- maybe slightly
> talented, but known as people who are *not* liked and who
> *do not* want to be heard.
>
> Look...another bottom line: Record labels are desperate --
> especially right now -- to find acts that "the people" want
> to hear. If you can't even convince a desperate label to
> sign you, then you...have your answer.
>
>
> > we may even make a documentary about it befor hand,
> staring
> > maybe now....
>
> ...that no one will watch.
>
> I'm noticing a trend -- you people are passionate about
> pleasuring only yourselves; you do what you do not for "the
> people" but at their expense!
>
>
> > personally i would rather this be a riaa situation than a
> > fcc, but seeing the fcc use u.s. marshals, this may make
> for
> > better pictures.
>
> That makes no sense in so many ways, the least of which is
> the irrelevance of the RIAA to this discussion.
>
 
Re: You're an ******

> how are we doing a bad job of it?
> i see that you all like to throw names and insults, but

I have called anyone here a name, and any insult from me was unintended.

> still, no one
> has pointed the flaws of what we are doing?

It's illegal, dumbass! Crap, there goes the no name-calling thing.

> we want the music we create broadcast out to the public,
> and we are doing it.
> no different than when we rent our own venues to do our own
> shows, we can do it ourselves and give a proper example on
> how to do it...without having to wait and play the "me next"
> game with the local conceret promoters.
> no ones going to wipe our ass but ourselves.
>

Big difference. Renting a venue is legal, unlike running a pirate station.

> Our peers in the local community and the music industry seem
> to be impressed, so i think we must be doing the right
> thing.
> regardless of the law or you think.

If it's against the law, it isn't right. End of story. Despite what your friends think.

> we too went to school and got our little pieces of paper, so
> we have the ability to do our projects without depending on
> it to make a us a living.
> thats what jobs are for.
> its all part of the mythos and the adventure, and when this
> is all done with, regardless of the fines or gear
> confiscations, we'll be the ones in the paper, on the news,
> websites, and magazines....its just promotion.

You're giving yourself too much credit. No one gives a crap about a pirate station outside of your very small listening area.

> we may even make a documentary about it befor hand, staring
> maybe now....
> personally i would rather this be a riaa situation than a
> fcc, but seeing the fcc use u.s. marshals, this may make for
> better pictures.
>
> as for the uturn, just try to watch where you drive in the
> first place and you wont need to make that u-turn.
>

Good point. I'll be sure to call you up to schedule some driving lessons.
 
punk shoe ay shun

> Thats none of our dream occupations man.
> We are programmers, graphic artists and musicians, not radio
> personalitys.
> if hot 101.1 want to do that, whatever, but thats not anyone
> in Pirate Audio's plans.
>

Have you ever considered a career as an English teacher?
 
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