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Part 15 Broadcasting Could Be The Next Cash Cow!

Bill Wolfenbarger said:
Given the insignificant coverage of a legally-operating Part 15 station, I think any legal operator selling advertising for more than the value of a share of Citadel stock would be guilty of misrepresentation.

Part 15 transmitters have been sold for years for use at homes for sale, etc. But if you can hear the signal a mile away, I would suggest it is not in compliance with Part 15.

It's actually not uncommon to get 1-2 miles on AM with a decent setup. Most of it also depends on the receiving radio, interference factors, etc. as well.

I can see your point. I've known some 250 watt AM stations that barely got 1-2 miles of coverage......
 
Bill Wolfenbarger said:
Given the insignificant coverage of a legally-operating Part 15 station, I think any legal operator selling advertising for more than the value of a share of Citadel stock would be guilty of misrepresentation.

Part 15 transmitters have been sold for years for use at homes for sale, etc. But if you can hear the signal a mile away, I would suggest it is not in compliance with Part 15.

Hahahahaha... I'm still laughing at this one... someone from Seattle whose AM is not working out right is telling the small guy running a part15 setup can't get a signal out 1 mile... I can tell you Bill there are many of us doing just that and within the FCC compliance even if Mr. Fry has some tick against it.

Not only are some of us getting out that far with 'well engineered' antenna/studio equipment but are also selling ads and doing well. Perhaps you've never done anything like part15 so how would you know... you're too busy trying to sell ads for a licensed station and worried sales aren't doing well in the Seattle area?
There is a part15 there in the east Seattle area doing well I might add.

Misrepresentation... I think NOT.

Radiopilot
 
Bill Wolfenbarger said:
Given the insignificant coverage of a legally-operating Part 15 station, I think any legal operator selling advertising for more than the value of a share of Citadel stock would be guilty of misrepresentation.

Part 15 transmitters have been sold for years for use at homes for sale, etc. But if you can hear the signal a mile away, I would suggest it is not in compliance with Part 15.

Bill. Here's a story you'll enjoy.

A friend of mine, now retired, used to head up the Army's Media Division. Also, at that time he was the GM of an independently owned 5kw AM station in the Harrisburg, PA market and on the side, he and his wife ran a Part 15 AM station using a Trans AM 100 transmitter.

His 5kw had a tough time breaking even after the other Harrisburg area stations were bought out by corporations. It seems as though the corporate sales mentality was to go into local businesses, misrepresent their market share and audience demographic in order to obtain sponsors. Eventually, local businesses were turned off to this practice and starting lumping in his 5 kw AM with these corporate Pirates despite the fact he did not stoop to such unethical practices. The local businesses and residences were unable to distinguish between a locally owned full powered station from a corporate owned station because of the large broadcast radius of each station and image in the community.

But...He had absolutely NO TROUBLE selling advertising on his Part 15 AM station because it was very clear to the local market that this puny station with a puny 1.5 mile broadcast radius was not corporate owned or programmed. As a result, he was able to earn an average of $1,500 a month with the Part 15 AM station and turn a decent profit and make a respectable part time income.

America is sick of the garbage on the corporate air waves and the unethical business practices of corporate America. No wonder the big guys fear us little guys. They can't compete with us. ;D
 
Given the insignificant coverage of a legally-operating Part 15 station, I think any legal operator selling advertising for more than the value of a share of Citadel stock would be guilty of misrepresentation.
I had a friend in Flagstaff, about a mile and half from the nearest Fox Sports 1650 AM transmitter, Thursday night. So I had him tune it in to see if he could tune it in; even in the darkness of night and Torrence dropped power. He landed on Fox Sports 1650 AM just as they did a liner; they were easily herd over all the noise from other 1650 AM stations. I then had him tune in 600 AM also in Flagstaff; despite their 37 watt night power they could not be herd, drowned out by KOGO in San Diego.

It is amazing how many so called broadcasters, are clueless about part 15 AM broadcasting.
Given the insignificant coverage of a legally-operating Part 15 station, I think any legal operator selling advertising for more than the value of a share of Citadel stock would be guilty of misrepresentation.
Why make such a statement that can easily be dispelled?

Why do you keep justifying your illegal ways? You are violated FCC rules and you should be taking off the air. No part 15 or low power station cannot sell commercial ads. I'm involved with WCRS LPFM in Columbus Ohio and we are monitor by the FCC that we're in compliance with underwriting.
Perhaps you should not be involved with WCRS LPFM, with your lack of understanding of the rules regarding part 15 broadcasting.

Please your setup is illegal. Part 15 broadcasters should be limited to information rebroadcast of NOAA weather, traffic, airport, community info.
First you say it is legal! Then you say it should be limited to information rebroadcast of NOAA weather, traffic, airport, community info. Why would you want its use limited? What is in it for you?

What no commercial station would higher you?
Now why would want to work for an unstable commercial station as you put;
When I can be my own boss and control my own destiny?

For the record I have worked for plenty of so called commercial stations, starting when I was eight in 1966. I have witnessed first hand the good, bad and ugly of commercial broadcasting; cheating employees out paychecks, screwing clients over and breaking endless FCC rules. One thing I have learned over the year is the rules are applied differently to mega corporate broadcasters than they are small independent broadcasters. The big boys get away with murder when it comes to breaking the rules; one engineer who contracts with CBS, told me that the FCC does not like to go after the big boys, an agent will give him an early warning call before a visit. The smaller broadcasters gets a surprise visit instead; resulting in expensive fines!

Part 15 AM commercial broadcasting is legal, and I am simply taking advantage of the rules. Since we are a world wide operation, we can't limit our selves to just part 15 broadcasting on our website since part 15 rules only apply to the old USA and the new USSA for now!


Thanks, LibertyNT&radioman148


Steve
www.radiobrandy.com
 
Interesting article on the changes in the "performance complement" of the Copyright Act which dictates how webcasters can use music. This is part of the NAB-SoundEx settlement for stations that web stream their OTA content.

http://www.broadcastlawblog.com/arc...el-waivers-of-the-performance-complement.html

Since the settlement makes no distinction between licensed and unlicensed (but legal) broadcasters, I wonder if Part 15 stations that web stream could take advantage of these changes? It would certainly make web streaming music a lot easier.

C5
 
>>Since the settlement makes no distinction between licensed and unlicensed (but legal) broadcasters, I wonder if Part 15 stations that web stream could take advantage of these changes? It would certainly make web streaming music a lot easier>>

Indeed it would.
 
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