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Part 15 Night Time Requirements

Real part 15 broadcasting is a FUN hobby. Thats pretty much all it is. Unless you find creative ways to get a signal out there, Why bother? In the city of Atlanta, or where I live a suburb Of ATL, its really hard to even try and compete with anything thats on the air here. Most formats have been covered, so again if you live in a area not covered up with radio stations, then you are doing great at part 15. For a lot of us, its like.. Hmmm who cares? Why even try??
 
lilburncommunityradio said:
Real part 15 broadcasting is a FUN hobby. Thats pretty much all it is. Unless you find creative ways to get a signal out there, Why bother? In the city of Atlanta, or where I live a suburb Of ATL, its really hard to even try and compete with anything thats on the air here. Most formats have been covered, so again if you live in a area not covered up with radio stations, then you are doing great at part 15. For a lot of us, its like.. Hmmm who cares? Why even try??

This is only your opinion. There are plenty of broadcasters that take Part 15 AM broadcasting seriously and they've achieved a certain degree of commercial success as a result of their efforts. In fact, right now in suburban Atlanta, one of my customers has a growing commercial Part 15 AM station that is starting to gain some attention.
 
I dont see the excitement over a station that only goes 200 hundred feet...? If you are going to make any kind of difference you have to have some REAL coverage. Who is gonna really tune in a station that only goes that far? Because a REAL part 15 station can only have coverage like this. I promise, that Im not being rude, or trying to be anything but real, but comon.. If you want to have listeners you gotta push the limit. What station in suburan Atlanta is getting coverage and gaining attention? I just dont believe it.
 
Face it, regardless of transmitter strength the best that radio can hope for is to be widely local.

Pushing the limits, could also mean, broadcasting at the lowest possible cost and then using all available technologies, such as streaming, RSS feeds, podcasting and cell phone feeds to reach a broader audience.

What radio can't do that technology can do in measure the audience accurately. Accurate audience measurements has real value to advertisers.
 
stormy01 said:
lilburncommunityradio said:
What station in suburan Atlanta is getting coverage and gaining attention? I just dont believe it.

I believe they are talking about "Radio Sandy Springs" http://www.radiosandysprings.com/
http://www.rbr.com/epaper/pages/january06/06-20_news1.html

And as the RBR article indicates: "It's a network of low-power AM transmitters fed simultaneously that covers the entire town and beyond." So, while it is true that one Part 15 AM transmitter won't cover much ground, many certainly will.

If memory serves me right, Radio Sandy Springs is using a total of 11 Rangemasters strategically placed around the city. That can mean some serious community coverage.

C5
 
And then Theres Fox Sports 1650 in Flagstaff using 4 Rangemaster transmitters.
KLSR 1650 in Rowlett using 1 Rangemaster that goes about 8-10 miles.
 
LibertyNT said:
And then there's Fox Sports 1650 in Flagstaff using 4 Rangemaster transmitters.
KLSR 1650 in Rowlett using 1 Rangemaster that goes about 8-10 miles.

What kind of coverage do these operators really have? Could someone receive these stations with clear audio on a clock radio 2 or 3 miles out, or would it have to be a CCRadio or a GE Super Radio for a portable? Or a Pioneer Supertuner in a vehicle to hear these stations 8-10 miles out? Or a communications receiver with 50' of wire attached? At 8-10 miles out only DXers are going to hear these stations with 100mW.
 
I would sure like to personally inspect one of these setups that people claim go 8 miles, or even more than 2 miles! ;)

I certainly don't get that kind of range with any of the equipment I have tried, including my Rangemaster (nor would I expect to)!

But anyway, as has been noted, it is STILL a fun hobby! I always wanted to own a weak classical AM station on the high end of the dial, and now I do! :)
 
Carmine5 said:
stormy01 said:
lilburncommunityradio said:
What station in suburan Atlanta is getting coverage and gaining attention? I just dont believe it.

I believe they are talking about "Radio Sandy Springs" http://www.radiosandysprings.com/
http://www.rbr.com/epaper/pages/january06/06-20_news1.html

And as the RBR article indicates: "It's a network of low-power AM transmitters fed simultaneously that covers the entire town and beyond." So, while it is true that one Part 15 AM transmitter won't cover much ground, many certainly will.

If memory serves me right, Radio Sandy Springs is using a total of 11 Rangemasters strategically placed around the city. That can mean some serious community coverage.

C5

I emailed Radio Sandy Springs and I asked why there is no mention of the 1620 frequency, or any coverage maps. This is the reply I received: "Radio Sandy Springs 1620 LPAM is mentioned on our site as to your other questions we are now much more national and international in scope and addressing the needs via the net of folks around the world."

Now, tell me where on the website, www.radiosandysprings.com there is a mention of 1620 and its coverage? I checked every link. Either they don't know what is on their own webpages or they are liars!
 
stormy01 said:
Carmine5 said:
stormy01 said:
lilburncommunityradio said:
What station in suburan Atlanta is getting coverage and gaining attention? I just dont believe it.

I believe they are talking about "Radio Sandy Springs" http://www.radiosandysprings.com/
http://www.rbr.com/epaper/pages/january06/06-20_news1.html

Since when is a Part 15 AM station either legally or morally obligated to provide coverage maps?

And as the RBR article indicates: "It's a network of low-power AM transmitters fed simultaneously that covers the entire town and beyond." So, while it is true that one Part 15 AM transmitter won't cover much ground, many certainly will.

If memory serves me right, Radio Sandy Springs is using a total of 11 Rangemasters strategically placed around the city. That can mean some serious community coverage.

C5

I emailed Radio Sandy Springs and I asked why there is no mention of the 1620 frequency, or any coverage maps. This is the reply I received: "Radio Sandy Springs 1620 LPAM is mentioned on our site as to your other questions we are now much more national and international in scope and addressing the needs via the net of folks around the world."

Now, tell me where on the website, www.radiosandysprings.com there is a mention of 1620 and its coverage? I checked every link. Either they don't know what is on their own webpages or they are liars!


Since when is a Part 15 AM station either legally or morally obligated to provide coverage maps?
 
stormy01 said:
LibertyNT said:
And then there's Fox Sports 1650 in Flagstaff using 4 Rangemaster transmitters.
KLSR 1650 in Rowlett using 1 Rangemaster that goes about 8-10 miles.

What kind of coverage do these operators really have? Could someone receive these stations with clear audio on a clock radio 2 or 3 miles out, or would it have to be a CCRadio or a GE Super Radio for a portable? Or a Pioneer Supertuner in a vehicle to hear these stations 8-10 miles out? Or a communications receiver with 50' of wire attached? At 8-10 miles out only DXers are going to hear these stations with 100mW.

Well With a Car Radio Their Coverage map fits almost perfectly. A Eton S350DL picks it up quite nicely as well. A clock Radio Might Work Never Tried that. But Then again Clock radios Suck.
klsr1650.com
 
My very first Part 15 was a crystal controlled thing hopelessly stuck on 1400 kHz (I didn't know then it COULD be changed.) back in 1998-99 in Spokane, WA. It was called "1400 The Graveyard", as a nod to it's lousy frequency, it's thrash metal format and the fact that nobody (except a few local hairballs) was listening.....

During the day, it was nice and strong for 4 blocks, at night, it barely made it past the front sidewalk. I ran it off a computer with Winamp 2.0.......
 
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