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patriots day explosion
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Listening to RKO and have Ch 4 on the TV. Lots of breaking news, hotel evacuated,
device found; poss. 3 fatalities. Herald and Globe sites quickly being overloaded by the curious
but there's info from other sites/sources.
device found; poss. 3 fatalities. Herald and Globe sites quickly being overloaded by the curious
but there's info from other sites/sources.
WEEI's network is simulcasting Howie's WRKO coverage (now Salk & Holley back on). Would think RKO would find someone to continue past 7 pm with talk/news (Kuhner?)
I've checked a number of international web sites: BBC, NHK, RTE, Das Erste, Le Figaro & ABC in Spain. This is a worldwide disaster that everyone's talking about. Thank God I came into work today and someone's gonna drive me home because the T's all screwed up! The conflicts that divide us all have intruded on sports again! :'(
I listened to the WBZ coverage earlier. They did a top-notch job on coverage.
Rich of Sports Hub was heard saying 2nd explosion
was across st from his Boylston St home...people were
blown into lobby of his bldg...he left w his family incl
wife who has low blood count. 1030 // on 98.5, 100.7,
103.3,
and 104.1. The 9 station EEI network // RKO, Kuhner and
now Avi--who has been on "WEEI" before, at 590
was across st from his Boylston St home...people were
blown into lobby of his bldg...he left w his family incl
wife who has low blood count. 1030 // on 98.5, 100.7,
103.3,
and 104.1. The 9 station EEI network // RKO, Kuhner and
now Avi--who has been on "WEEI" before, at 590
Made the mistake of turning on WRKO this morning...some truly disgusting radio as the rush to politicize the bombing is well underway.
Kuhner and A. Nelson last night (and Howie to some extent) were of the attitude of "now is not the time...we don't know yet who did this" but that was followed at times by "but we may have a good
idea".
A post on my facebook by a musician said: "To all of you people who are trying to link the Boston bombings to your own political agendas whether it's an Obama thing, a republican thing...I've even read posts mentioning George W.? it's time to shut the f--- up. This isn't the time."
(Speaking of the F word, it got through last night at the start of Kuhner's show though maybe the board ops/helpers were busy trying to find info, etc. A woman said "we need to catch the
sick f--- who did this" only she said the F word. Jeff didn't catch it either (he didn't say on air 'please don't swear')...(Kuhner btw still thinks Copley Sq is pronounced
"Cope-ley", and Avi must not have been informed that WEEI-FM, etc. was carrying him or he forgot...
he kept referring to "WRKO" without adding "also we're on WEEI tonight"
idea".
A post on my facebook by a musician said: "To all of you people who are trying to link the Boston bombings to your own political agendas whether it's an Obama thing, a republican thing...I've even read posts mentioning George W.? it's time to shut the f--- up. This isn't the time."
(Speaking of the F word, it got through last night at the start of Kuhner's show though maybe the board ops/helpers were busy trying to find info, etc. A woman said "we need to catch the
sick f--- who did this" only she said the F word. Jeff didn't catch it either (he didn't say on air 'please don't swear')...(Kuhner btw still thinks Copley Sq is pronounced
"Cope-ley", and Avi must not have been informed that WEEI-FM, etc. was carrying him or he forgot...
he kept referring to "WRKO" without adding "also we're on WEEI tonight"
No they didn't. RIPR was simulcasting WBUR (with local inserts and newscasts) via our T-1 link to them and they kept going with an extended version of RadioBoston from 3pm to 7pm, then a special On Point (which was also national) from 7 to 8pm, then another hour of Radio Boston until 9pm. AFAIK they (and us) went to ATC from 9-10pm and then to the BBC afterwards.
IIRC, both NHPR and VPR were also simulcasting Radio Boston a lot, too. Not sure if they went with ATC at any point but ATC was only about one-third Boston coverage; the rest was just regular news stories.
as someone else said in another post, this is why Local Radio is important
The last people who responded mentioned W R K O
Many of us here knows W R K O airs Syndicated Programming on weeknights which are delay (not live)
As I said in the past, I know they have a contract with Howie Carr to be on until a certain point.
Being in Boston, this is a BIG city, and a huge radio market. For a radio market this big, W R K O Program Management should consider to put on LIVE Programming, either local or Syndicated, there are a few Syndicated Radio shows that are on live from 7pm-10pm, 10pm-1am, 9pm-Midnight
-7pm-10pm "Free Talk Radio" Genesis Communications
-7pm-10pm "Leslie Marshall" WYM Media Management
-10pm-1am "Geoff Metcalf Live" Genesis Communications
-9pm-Midnight "John Batchelor" Cumulus Media Network. Note: His Midnight-1am hour is not live, it is repeated from an earlier hour
Now, that being said, W R K O Program Management should highly look into one or a few of these shows, because one never know for any event like these, they need to have LIVE programming on, or at least (try) and have LIVE programming on 24/7 or almost 24/7.
Don't get me wrong. I like the station.
They just need to consider this for the average listener. In bad times like these, some people with (sad problems) needs someone to talk to.
Example
I was listenning to Avi Nelson last night just before Midnight, a caller (Paul) called in. He sounded ??? hmmm (like sad people)
At Midnight-1am WRKO went to Jerry Doyle who is delayed, not live. Little after midnight, on WBZ 103oam, guess who calls to talk to HayTalking and Dan Rae?
YUP
Paul!!!!
I know it was him because he said the same exact thing as he said when he called Avi
There are a lot of great radio talk programs out there that are on, if not 24/7, almost 24/7. I just wish someone would just listen to me for once and take my advice.
I'm not saying put on All (Syndicated Programming)
I'm just sayng, if they have to save money, instead of putting on so many repates, look into LIVE Programming, either local, if not local, ok, Syndicated. Put something on LIVE!!
Other than that.
Much props to all Boston Media (Radio and TV) Good job keeping us informed
The last people who responded mentioned W R K O
Many of us here knows W R K O airs Syndicated Programming on weeknights which are delay (not live)
As I said in the past, I know they have a contract with Howie Carr to be on until a certain point.
Being in Boston, this is a BIG city, and a huge radio market. For a radio market this big, W R K O Program Management should consider to put on LIVE Programming, either local or Syndicated, there are a few Syndicated Radio shows that are on live from 7pm-10pm, 10pm-1am, 9pm-Midnight
-7pm-10pm "Free Talk Radio" Genesis Communications
-7pm-10pm "Leslie Marshall" WYM Media Management
-10pm-1am "Geoff Metcalf Live" Genesis Communications
-9pm-Midnight "John Batchelor" Cumulus Media Network. Note: His Midnight-1am hour is not live, it is repeated from an earlier hour
Now, that being said, W R K O Program Management should highly look into one or a few of these shows, because one never know for any event like these, they need to have LIVE programming on, or at least (try) and have LIVE programming on 24/7 or almost 24/7.
Don't get me wrong. I like the station.
They just need to consider this for the average listener. In bad times like these, some people with (sad problems) needs someone to talk to.
Example
I was listenning to Avi Nelson last night just before Midnight, a caller (Paul) called in. He sounded ??? hmmm (like sad people)
At Midnight-1am WRKO went to Jerry Doyle who is delayed, not live. Little after midnight, on WBZ 103oam, guess who calls to talk to HayTalking and Dan Rae?
YUP
Paul!!!!
I know it was him because he said the same exact thing as he said when he called Avi
There are a lot of great radio talk programs out there that are on, if not 24/7, almost 24/7. I just wish someone would just listen to me for once and take my advice.
I'm not saying put on All (Syndicated Programming)
I'm just sayng, if they have to save money, instead of putting on so many repates, look into LIVE Programming, either local, if not local, ok, Syndicated. Put something on LIVE!!
Other than that.
Much props to all Boston Media (Radio and TV) Good job keeping us informed
LAUROJRM said:
No offense but this isn't the time or place. with that said cbs radio is doing an outstanding job with coverage it's good to have an all news station in town. This is why Boston might consider a 24hr news radio station.
btw a flashback about jumping to conclusions: after the Okla City bombing but before we knew it was by McVeigh and Nichols, Howie kept saying, "So what are we going to do about these 'towel-heads'?"
He later apologized.
Many stations will go syndie on weekends, it's a cost factor. They feel not as many people listen
but they can sell time for brokered programming, or do specialty shows etc
>>put on LIVE Programming,
Send them a check to cover the cost. Otherwise don't expect miracles. Leslie Marshall can be heard on 1520 out of Buffalo I think. I don't think they'd put her on unless they felt it worth their while.
>> "Free Talk Radio"
If you really want it you can prob find it online. I have to say it again: "Young man this radio
station is a business. It is not here for your personal listening pleasure."
These days if people want shows bad enough they can get them online, on XM, or from a slight
distance away. Want Dennis Miller (daily) and Laura Ingraham? If you live on the North Shore you
may be able to pick them up on WZAN 970 Portland. I can.
>>because one never know for any event like these, they need to have LIVE programming on
They do but does it justify having them on all the time? Whenever there's a blizzard, or something like the bombing, they can bring people like Kuhner, Avi, Joe Battenfeld, etc. in on that day. Otherwise they run syndie. During election season they had Joe Batt. on Fri nights at 7 pm
but that was during election season. Think of it as "temporary help during the busy season".
The same callers do pop up. Someone called WRKO and said "is this a false flag?" and offered a conspiracy theory. Same caller got on with Howie and then with Kuhner--and I heard he also
somehow got into a press conference and asked same thing. It was discovered he did not
have press credentials.
I'd like to see you run a restaurant and have it fully staffed at all times. For a certain period
each day, not many people come in. It's slow. But you still have to pay them, including
their health care etc. Sure, they work out great during busy times, but you have them
on days or times that are not busy. Soon a sign goes up at your restaurant:
OUT OF BUSINESS
Radio: it isn't right that they can't offer you full time all the time (local) but it's business.
Heck they said when they laid off Sheppard in '10 it was because times were tough,
ratings were down, etc. It's BUSINESS.
He later apologized.
Many stations will go syndie on weekends, it's a cost factor. They feel not as many people listen
but they can sell time for brokered programming, or do specialty shows etc
>>put on LIVE Programming,
Send them a check to cover the cost. Otherwise don't expect miracles. Leslie Marshall can be heard on 1520 out of Buffalo I think. I don't think they'd put her on unless they felt it worth their while.
>> "Free Talk Radio"
If you really want it you can prob find it online. I have to say it again: "Young man this radio
station is a business. It is not here for your personal listening pleasure."
These days if people want shows bad enough they can get them online, on XM, or from a slight
distance away. Want Dennis Miller (daily) and Laura Ingraham? If you live on the North Shore you
may be able to pick them up on WZAN 970 Portland. I can.
>>because one never know for any event like these, they need to have LIVE programming on
They do but does it justify having them on all the time? Whenever there's a blizzard, or something like the bombing, they can bring people like Kuhner, Avi, Joe Battenfeld, etc. in on that day. Otherwise they run syndie. During election season they had Joe Batt. on Fri nights at 7 pm
but that was during election season. Think of it as "temporary help during the busy season".
The same callers do pop up. Someone called WRKO and said "is this a false flag?" and offered a conspiracy theory. Same caller got on with Howie and then with Kuhner--and I heard he also
somehow got into a press conference and asked same thing. It was discovered he did not
have press credentials.
I'd like to see you run a restaurant and have it fully staffed at all times. For a certain period
each day, not many people come in. It's slow. But you still have to pay them, including
their health care etc. Sure, they work out great during busy times, but you have them
on days or times that are not busy. Soon a sign goes up at your restaurant:
OUT OF BUSINESS
Radio: it isn't right that they can't offer you full time all the time (local) but it's business.
Heck they said when they laid off Sheppard in '10 it was because times were tough,
ratings were down, etc. It's BUSINESS.
I didn't say nothing wrong, so please do not go to conclusions
God
God
(The jumping to conclusions bit was about news/talk hosts doing so, not you; I was saying Howie did it back in the 90s.) No, you said your opinion, and I was rebutting it. Free speech invites more free speech. Don't take it the wrong way, but I'm saying what I've observed over the years.
And btw RKO, EEI etc didn't run ads during the coverage last night. It wasn't the right time. But they could well have attracted many new listeners so ultimately it will pay off, and they are definitely
serving the community. At the right time, they had local talk on. Yes, they did go to Jerry Doyle
at midnight but by that time a lot of what had to be said had been said, and listener levels were
dropping off. If there was real breaking news past 11 pm or so maybe they could have stayed on
with local. CBS kept it going with Bradley Jay and Rea, etc. (and by midnight the FMs changed back
to music). Credit them with spreading their coverage to 4 spots on the FM dial for all those hours
and yes maybe this is a preview of what could eventually be "NewsRadio103.3" or "NewsRadio104.1"
or whatever. Entercom also provided a service in that the 9 WEEI network stations carried their
coverage.
93.5 Keene, 101.5 Lakes Region, 95.9 & 95.5 Portland, 93.7 Lawrence, 1440 Worc, 105.5 Springfield area, 103.7 RI, 96.3 on the Cape.
And btw RKO, EEI etc didn't run ads during the coverage last night. It wasn't the right time. But they could well have attracted many new listeners so ultimately it will pay off, and they are definitely
serving the community. At the right time, they had local talk on. Yes, they did go to Jerry Doyle
at midnight but by that time a lot of what had to be said had been said, and listener levels were
dropping off. If there was real breaking news past 11 pm or so maybe they could have stayed on
with local. CBS kept it going with Bradley Jay and Rea, etc. (and by midnight the FMs changed back
to music). Credit them with spreading their coverage to 4 spots on the FM dial for all those hours
and yes maybe this is a preview of what could eventually be "NewsRadio103.3" or "NewsRadio104.1"
or whatever. Entercom also provided a service in that the 9 WEEI network stations carried their
coverage.
93.5 Keene, 101.5 Lakes Region, 95.9 & 95.5 Portland, 93.7 Lawrence, 1440 Worc, 105.5 Springfield area, 103.7 RI, 96.3 on the Cape.
>>with that said cbs radio is doing an outstanding job
>>with coverage it's good to have an all news station in town. This is why Boston might consider a >>24hr news radio station.
And the example of why not to do news 24hrs is last night - TV (all) and radio (WBZ) essentially repeated the same information, same interviews and sound bites for hours over and over. On BZ radio it was Dan Rea jumping in with guests that kept it fresh during the evening and then they returned to typical overnight talk but added a live news anchor.
I'm not disagreeing with what they did last evening, extraodinary events justify/require it.
But, imagine, a typical night with no big news story going on. It wouldn't make sense to ditch their very well established evening radio talk show fan base for something that few people will care about and seek out.
I think WBZ has the right formula with the ability to up the news content evenings/overnight when events demand it.
>>with coverage it's good to have an all news station in town. This is why Boston might consider a >>24hr news radio station.
And the example of why not to do news 24hrs is last night - TV (all) and radio (WBZ) essentially repeated the same information, same interviews and sound bites for hours over and over. On BZ radio it was Dan Rea jumping in with guests that kept it fresh during the evening and then they returned to typical overnight talk but added a live news anchor.
I'm not disagreeing with what they did last evening, extraodinary events justify/require it.
But, imagine, a typical night with no big news story going on. It wouldn't make sense to ditch their very well established evening radio talk show fan base for something that few people will care about and seek out.
I think WBZ has the right formula with the ability to up the news content evenings/overnight when events demand it.
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