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Paul Shafer and the CBS Orchestra
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"In February 2012, longtime saxophonist Bruce Kapler departed the orchestra for other pursuits. A string of guest saxophonists have been substituting for him until a full-time replacement can be found."
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CBS_Orchestra
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CBS_Orchestra
I much prefer the band's name when they were on Late Night on NBC: "the world's most dangerous band." When the announcer says "CBS orchestra," I still usually say "world's most dangerous band" over it! 8) Whenever I still watch Letterman, which is rare anymore. :
firepoint525 said:I much prefer the band's name when they were on Late Night on NBC: "the world's most dangerous band." When the announcer says "CBS orchestra," I still usually say "world's most dangerous band" over it! 8) Whenever I still watch Letterman, which is rare anymore. :
Was this one of those things that NBC claimed to have the rights to and wouldn't allow Letterman to use it when he moved to CBS?
anotherguy said:firepoint525 said:I much prefer the band's name when they were on Late Night on NBC: "the world's most dangerous band." When the announcer says "CBS orchestra," I still usually say "world's most dangerous band" over it! 8) Whenever I still watch Letterman, which is rare anymore. :
Was this one of those things that NBC claimed to have the rights to and wouldn't allow Letterman to use it when he moved to CBS?
Not sure about that one, but I seem to recall that NBC gave in on many of those rights claims. I recall that "Larry 'Bud' Melman" had to be billed as Calvert Deforest (his real name) when Letterman first came to CBS - but within a few weeks or months, he was again billed as Larry 'Bud'. After all, what was NBC going to do with the name, if they didn't have Letterman or Deforest on the payroll?
I believe "CBS Orchestra" was derived in part from the whole 'intellectual property' garbage after Dave left NBC. But in 1993, my first thought hearing it was, "What a brilliant master stroke!" Since Doc Severinsen's band on Carson was called "The NBC Orchestra", what better way to plant a seed in the viewer that while Dave might not have gotten "Tonight", the legacy of Johnny Carson is not with Jay Leno. That's how I see it, anyway.....
--Russell
--Russell
yes, NBC claimed the name, "The World's Most Dangerous Band". Since Leno had the Tonight Show Band, Dave grabbed the CBS Orchestra name!!! I still think the sghow should be titled, Late Show STARRING David Letterman!!! Everyone else uses 'with'. Tonight Show 'with'... Leno, Late Night 'with' ....Fallon, Last Call 'with' ... Daly, Late Late Show 'with' ... Ferguson, Live 'with' ... Ripa, Etc.
KeithE4 said:
Great. I'm guessing that when Jay Leno retires, it'll return to "starring"...?
1069_KIFR said:
Bones is towards the left of the horn section and is still there. However, if I'm not mistaken, I'm almost sure that guitar player Sid McGinnis was absent for a while but I noticed him on the show earlier in the week. Maybe he was touring with someone. As for the whole group itself, I recall reading at the time of their move from NBC that, once they added the horn section (which they did not have at NBC), they were 'officially' able to consider themselves an orchestra rather than just a 'band'.
Another on-air change I've noticed is that executive producer Barbara Gaines, who stands at the podium on the far right of the stage and is sometimes seen on the air, has been replaced by another woman. Don't know if that's permanent or not.
I remember a conversation between Dave & Paul on the the old Late Night show. They used the NBC Orchestra line a few nights and Paul told Dave he didn't like to be called that because of his respect to Doc (Severinson). They never called the band the NBC Orchestra again, at least as far as I know.
I had never heard the band on Johnny's Tonight show called the NBC Orchestra, only The Tonight Show Band. They released a couple albums and they were always the Tonight Show Band.
For the youngsters out there: In the days of radio and early TV there were "house orchestras" both on NBC & CBS. They had very famous leaders, at the time. Of course as time went on they were not needed and were disbanded. David Letterman brought the term back.
I had never heard the band on Johnny's Tonight show called the NBC Orchestra, only The Tonight Show Band. They released a couple albums and they were always the Tonight Show Band.
For the youngsters out there: In the days of radio and early TV there were "house orchestras" both on NBC & CBS. They had very famous leaders, at the time. Of course as time went on they were not needed and were disbanded. David Letterman brought the term back.
1069 is right, Ed always announced "This IS Ed McMahon along with Doc Severinsen and the NBC Orchestra inviting you to join Johnny and his guests....".
When Leno took over, it was always The Tonight Show Band (originally led by Branford Marsalis, then Kevin Eubanks and now Ricky Minor).
When Leno took over, it was always The Tonight Show Band (originally led by Branford Marsalis, then Kevin Eubanks and now Ricky Minor).
OK, was there ever an ABC Orchestra?
There was an NBC Symphony, conducted by Arturo Toscanini... I don't think there was a CBS Symphony, though such shows as "The 20th Century" had the credit "CBS Orchestra conducted by Alfredo Antonini."
Yes, Paul's band in the NBC days had just four members: Paul on keyboards, Sid McGinnis on guitar, Will Lee on bass (he'd spin around and jump whenever Dave made his entrance at the top of the show, a stunt he ceased at CBS), and Anton Fig on drums. The horns were added on Letterman's move to CBS.
And Johnny Carson continued to contribute jokes to Dave until he died, something he never did for Jay.
Yes, Paul's band in the NBC days had just four members: Paul on keyboards, Sid McGinnis on guitar, Will Lee on bass (he'd spin around and jump whenever Dave made his entrance at the top of the show, a stunt he ceased at CBS), and Anton Fig on drums. The horns were added on Letterman's move to CBS.
And Johnny Carson continued to contribute jokes to Dave until he died, something he never did for Jay.
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