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Payola & Coercing Bands to do Events in Exchange for Airplay

This leads to what may be a stupid question, but I will ask it anyway. Is music research still done for current based formats? I was under the impression from posts I've read here by the experts in the field that it is still done, but I have gotten into a discussion with an ex, 25 year radio veteran elsewhere who swears up and down that no research is done by any radio company for its current based formats, or by any radio station that is current based.
It's done, but not like in the past with a local call center. Some stations and groups do individual station research, but most are now doing format based research for multiple stations at a time. And it's no longer done on the "phone" any more but, instead, done online with the participant doing it at their individual convenience.¿
Perhaps I remember reading some of your comments (and comments by others here) about research for non-current based formats, and mistakenly thought it also applied to current based formats as well.
Music research is done in a fairly standard way, with a clip or tidbit of a song being played and the particpant giving a score. Some have numbers to click, others a slider to move to the desired position reflecting the hate, dislike, indifference, like or love towards a song.
My apologies if this derails the thread. I didn't think a new thread was merited, and I didn't find the answer during a quick search here.
There is a lot less individual station research because of things like cost and logistics. But the main reason for researching many if not all of a company's stations in one project is the Internet. Regional differences in song preferences are much less than it ever has been. And doing online tests means that a sample can be a blend of people from different markets where a company has comparable or identical formats.

Callout was always done remotely, so the only savings is in not having live "researcher" talking a person through the actual song plays. With large library tests, there is considerable saving in travel by the research staff, meeting rooms for the test and other "in person" logistical costs.
 
Depends on what you call research. I just attended a music radio seminar where song research was discussed in detail. Everybody researches songs. I went to one session where Spotify talked about how they research a song. On that same panel was the PD of a station in Denver. Record labels also research their own songs.
You bring up the hardest subject for music research which is evaluating a song before it is released and pushed for listening, whether on radio or streaming sources.

I've conducted a number of tests to determine at what point a song is "researchable". At the first listen, a song does not qualify, as the listener hears the overall sound but has not identified with it to establish a bond. When radio was the only new music source, it took multiple impressions over at least a period of several days to convert a song from "sounds nice" to a heart-felt emotion ranging from "it sucks" to "I love it".

Today, a person might initially like a song heard online, and then play it over several times and find it is a favorite to come back and hear many times, over and over. This could happen in an hour or a day, so the timetable is very changed and the speed of impact can be instantaneous.
Getting back to the topic of this thread: The thing regulators and legislators don't understand is that music is a business. 70 years ago radio had a lot of power. Today, the music is where the power is.
No, the power is still in the medium. But the medium is the Internet and not radio waves any longer.
Regulators don't see how much things have changed since the 50s. The fact that broadcast radio is still constrained by these obsolete laws while other music platforms can exist without any regulation seems completely crazy to me.
The "laws" that most constrain radio are the laws of physics. You can't delay radio waves until the listener is ready. And you can't make a broadcast station different for each listener, one by one. Radio is one-to-many and restricted most by that inflexibility that prevents tailoring.

And the number of available voices is restricted both by the width of the broadcast band portions of the radio spectrum and the ability of each market or city to support both listener financed stations and paid advertising radio media.

Yes, there are some content regulations such as profanity and obscenity prohibitions, but that has always been deemed necessary for any medium that can not be otherwise restricted so that those-too-young can't be exposed. On the other hand, there is a question of whether the unrestricted audio and video sources are any "safer" for children.

In any case, I do not think that the regulation of radio is the main issue that over the air (OTA) radio faces: it is the fact that when individuals find they can have individual playlists and individual entertainment choices, they do not frequent curated sources anywhere nearly as often.
 
I do not think that the regulation of radio is the main issue that over the air (OTA) radio faces:

There are lots of things. The one thing that stands out to me in this thread is that Marsha Blackburn can't get her story straight. In her radio royalty law, she says radio airplay has no value, so therefore radio stations should pay record labels. But when she talks to Brendan Carr, all of a sudden radio airplay is enough to make a multi-millionaire recording artist perform a festival for free. Which is it? It can't be both.
 
There are lots of things. The one thing that stands out to me in this thread is that Marsha Blackburn can't get her story straight.
That is because she is terminally ignorant. Someone in her staff or party should put some adhesive tape over her mouth.
In her radio royalty law, she says radio airplay has no value, so therefore radio stations should pay record labels. But when she talks to Brendan Carr, all of a sudden radio airplay is enough to make a multi-millionaire recording artist perform a festival for free. Which is it? It can't be both.
Did I say "terminally ignorant"? Maybe it is "criminally ignorant" instead.
 
Third possibility is "willfully ignorant."
The fact remains that the original FCC definition of Payola and the one used during the hearings in the Alan Freed era and also during the Joe Isgro episodes is the payment by goods, services or money for the promotion of a record or service by a broadcast station employee without the knowledge and authorization of management. The secondary issue is that such promotion consisted of "ads" that were not legally on the station log.

Ms Blackburn does not seem to know that cross promotion is usual, legal and common in all businesses. For example, vendors will reward supermarkets that put their products at eye level, give more shelf inches or provide end-aisle displays by discounting the goods being promoted or giving bonus cases or lots. Similar practices are used in every industry!
 
It's done, but not like in the past with a local call center. Some stations and groups do individual station research, but most are now doing format based research for multiple stations at a time. And it's no longer done on the "phone" any more but, instead, done online with the participant doing it at their individual convenience.¿

Music research is done in a fairly standard way, with a clip or tidbit of a song being played and the particpant giving a score. Some have numbers to click, others a slider to move to the desired position reflecting the hate, dislike, indifference, like or love towards a song.

There is a lot less individual station research because of things like cost and logistics. But the main reason for researching many if not all of a company's stations in one project is the Internet. Regional differences in song preferences are much less than it ever has been. And doing online tests means that a sample can be a blend of people from different markets where a company has comparable or identical formats.

Callout was always done remotely, so the only savings is in not having live "researcher" talking a person through the actual song plays. With large library tests, there is considerable saving in travel by the research staff, meeting rooms for the test and other "in person" logistical costs.
It seems like some PDs seem to really have a "knack" for tapping into a market at a certain point in time. For example, KMXV had its highest share since 2000 (probably good in demos) and I think Kiss 108 Boston also must really get it "right" to get such numbers.
 
Depends on what you call research. I just attended a music radio seminar where song research was discussed in detail. Everybody researches songs. I went to one session where Spotify talked about how they research a song. On that same panel was the PD of a station in Denver. Record labels also research their own songs. So yes. music research is done for currents based formats. It may not be done the way it was done 30 years ago, but its being done. One aspect that I heard during this panel was that the currents audience doesn't think in traditional formats. So that makes research even more important.

Getting back to the topic of this thread: The thing regulators and legislators don't understand is that music is a business. 70 years ago radio had a lot of power. Today, the music is where the power is. Regulators don't see how much things have changed since the 50s. The fact that broadcast radio is still constrained by these obsolete laws while other music platforms can exist without any regulation seems completely crazy to me.
Thank you BigA, and Mr. Eduardo also, for your helpful answers on research.
 
An FCC investigation hasn't stopped iHeart from doing more concerts. KIIS has scheduled its annual Wango Tango in LA

 
I received this press release today from iHeart's WAXQ New York:

Legendary GRAMMY Award-winning, Platinum-selling, Rock & Roll Hall of Fame rock band The Doobie Brothers announced A Special Evening With The Doobie Brothers Live In Concert, presented by iHeartRadio New York’s Q104.3 on June 6 at New York’s Irving Plaza. Tickets go on sale Friday, April 11 at 10:00am ET at Ticketmaster.com. The intimate New York City venue will host the iconic hitmakers’ album release event celebrating the band’s new studio album WALK THIS ROAD, out the same day on Rhino Records.

Note that this is not a free concert. It's a paid ticketed show, but presented by a radio station. Nothing illegal here.
 
That is because she is terminally ignorant. Someone in her staff or party should put some adhesive tape over her mouth.

Did I say "terminally ignorant"? Maybe it is "criminally ignorant" instead.
Unfortunately she's my Senator. I don't give her credit for knowing how anything works, especially music and technology.
 
I've met her legislative aid at music industry events, and he in fact knows better. My take is they're doing simply because they can.

Don't forget, also, that she's almost certainly being paid a lot of money by the music industry. I seem to remember it having hosted a campaign fundraiser for her several years ago. They'll twist themselves into pretzels to make sure the dollars keep flowing their direction.
 
Don't forget, also, that she's almost certainly being paid a lot of money by the music industry. I seem to remember it having hosted a campaign fundraiser for her several years ago. They'll twist themselves into pretzels to make sure the dollars keep flowing their direction.

Anybody who talks about broadcasters having lobbyists needs to spend a few minutes with the RIAA.
 
The other thing you need to know is when we talk about the recording industry, we're talking about foreign-owned companies in France, Germany, and Japan. It will be interesting to see how tariffs apply to them, since the manufacturing is done here, but the profits go to other countries. The administration talks about America First, but that's not the driving force behind this investigation or the call for new broadcast royalties.
 
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