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PBS stations discontinuing afternoon children's programming

WKNO PBS 10 in Memphis and WLJT 11 Jackson/Lexington, TN have the PBS Kids subchannel but they still have kid's programs in the afternoon for now. I guess we'll have to see how it changes on Feb. 6th.
according to zap2it WKNO ends Kids programming at 1pm but WLJT runs until 2pm starting Feb 6th
 
WEAO-WNEO in Akron/Youngstown had been ending their kids’ lineup at 3pm for a good while; I wouldn’t be surprised if they were doing it as a test project for PBS.
 
KQED has the 3pm spot for PBS News hour and BBC News at 4pm in San Francisco. KQEH has more programs for pledge programming on the weekends. I don't think kids programming is dead on PBS but its being shifted from affiliate to their app. News Programming getting more attention like Newshour and BBC News sure. PBS Primetime shows and Pledge Programming that has to bring in viewers and donors more than kids programming on PBS.


Interestingly some PBS affiliates have the PBS Kids Feed as a local label like KVIE in Sacramento.



But some stations have the PBS kids national feed on their schedule as a subchannel in other places like KQED San Francisco/San Jose


In areas where a secondary PBS affiliate exists like in San Francisco with KRCB (COL Santa Rosa) but seen in San Francisco there is also emphasis to promote France 24 feed, NHK World and DW feeds on their subchannels too for international news to separate themselves from the primary PBS affiliate.
 
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Here in Boston, there are two PBS member stations, both owned by WGBH (WGBH-2 and WGBX-44).

WGBH currently runs children's programming on weekdays from 6 A.M. to 5 P.M., while WGBX runs programs for grownups for most of the daytime hours, but does run children's programming late on weekday afternoons (5-7 P.M.), when WGBH runs programs for adults.

But next Monday (February 6th), that will change, with WGBH converting the 2-5 P.M. hours on weekdays to programs for grownups and WGBX will eliminate the 5-7 P.M. weekday children's block, likewise replacing it with programs for adults.

It's all about the Benjamins: PBS member stations would have more time on weekday afternoons to run pledge programming that could mean more $$$ for stations. I don't think very many PBS station do major pledging (read: extended pledge breaks) during children's programming, although some may do brief :30 or :60 second fundraising spots between kids' shows.

By WGBH discontinuing children's programming after 2 P.M. on weekdays, and WGBX dropping their late afternoon children's block, WGBH/WGBX will also have that option.
 
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KCTS Seattle stopped afternoon kids' programming years ago. It's now mostly Downton Abbey, Masterpiece Theatre-type repeats in the afternoons. It may have to do with the fact that the "PBS Kids Go!" branding is no longer used for their elementary-age programming (Arthur, Odd Squad, etc.)
Northwest Public TV (KTNW/KWSU) still airs PBS Kids up to 5PM weekdays. They take a 3-hour break from 11:30-2:30. That will end next week as PBS drops several hours nationwide, and the elementary-age shows (Odd Squad, for one) are off the .1 schedule. Some stations will likely promote the PBS Kids subchannel for the afternoon timeslots. Many of those shows air on that channel during the late afternoons when the elementary audience is back at home (or, at daycare). But do daycares even have TVs anymore? Between the streaming, the arts/gym activities, and the Internet math/reading intervention (iReady, etc.) what's the point of a TV playing cartoons? Not to mention the 2nd-5th grade audience is likely doing HW, soccer/basketball/baseball practice, or playing on a Roblox server.

I'm a substitute teacher now, so I know. Kids talk about "streaming" a movie over the weekend with their friends and playing video games on a Saturday night sleepover. I had a 3rd grade class a couple of weeks ago, and surprisingly, one of the kids still reads AND watches the Arthur TV show. I was pleasantly surprised as PBS isn't airing it as much anymore - and didn't it wrap up production a few years ago?
 
Many of those shows air on that channel during the late afternoons when the elementary audience is back at home (or, at daycare). But do daycares even have TVs anymore?
Oh, yes! Whether they are ever tuned to a linear channel may be a different question.

Between the streaming, the arts/gym activities, and the Internet math/reading intervention (iReady, etc.) what's the point of a TV playing cartoons? Not to mention the 2nd-5th grade audience is likely doing HW, soccer/basketball/baseball practice, or playing on a Roblox server.
IMO this change at PBS is really about parents electing to use streaming instead of linear TV, not a huge change in how children spend their time after school.

I will point out that the target age of PBS Kids is ages 2-8. That's topping out at 2nd grade, not 5th grade. The after-school routine of a 5th grader might be quite a bit different than a 1st or 2nd grader, who is still learning to read basic sentences.
 


Khan Academy and likely K-12 and colleges that have their own versions of Khan academy are ones that get streamed on YouTube where students are able to study on their TV's. They have taken the place that PBS Affiliates used to reserve for "Instructional Programming" or "Telecourse Programming" in past decades like the 1980's and 1990's. I have seen PBS Affiliates reallocate slots that were previously used for telecourse programming get used to air BBC News and PBS News hour on those slots. Or in some cases get used to rebroadcast Amanpour and their local versions of PBS News hour in some cases.


Annenberg Learner ones that used to provide content to PBS Affiliates in past gets reused as an online reference place for students and teachers.

 
It’s all about the Benjamins: PBS member stations would have more time on weekday afternoons to run pledge programming that could mean more $$$ for stations. I don't think very many PBS station do major pledging (read: extended pledge breaks) during children's programming, although some may do brief :30 or :60 second fundraising spots between kids' shows.
Take a good look again at the Current piece Roly linked to earlier in this thread. It’s really about PBS member stations having an opportunity to cultivate a general audience in the afternoon while also conceding that PBS Kids in the original form might be heading for obsolescence. It was anyway but the pandemic hastened everything.

There will always be a place for PBS Kids, but maybe family time can be had watching America’s Test Kitchen before dinner, or Ask This Old House, or the Masterpiece library. It can be a good way for public television to counterprogram against commercial television in the early evening, which is increasingly nothing but endless amounts of local news or your run-of-the-mill Judge Court strips on the lower-tier CW station.
 
For now. Come back on February 6th and you'll see the schedules will be vastly different by then.
Curiously, WVIZ’s own listed program schedule makes no mention of any changes and they still list a 6pm end time on February 6.

I mean, I expect it to be totally temporary but WVIZ isn’t in an immediate hurry to put on an alternate lineup. WNEO/WEAO had already been getting out of PBS Kids at 3pm weekdays for awhile; they’ll do so at 2pm come Monday.
 
PBS Kids targets ages 2-8. PBS Kids Go (when it was promoted and aired in afternoons) targeted the age 6-10 group...i.e. elementary school students. Shows like Arthur, WordGirl and Fetch with Ruff Ruffman had an advanced level of content that the average toddler would likely not grasp well, but were/are targeted to the elementary group.

Some school districts around here use Khan Academy and promote it for their students. There are plenty of math and reading intervention programs used in the local districts...like iReady and Reflex Math. Some require a quota of minutes completed per week.

Streaming is also the big factor. I'm sure a large majority of American 4-year-olds have grown up on streaming. Not VHS tapes, not DVDs, and not KCTS, WNET, WTTW, etc. airing a block of programs catered towards their educational growth. They can easily find Daniel Tiger or Super Why on Netflix. Voila. Who needs cable?

I envy subbing for teachers who require them to move around the room and silent read for 20-30 minutes a day. A PRINT book..not EPIC, which is the newest trend for K-5 schools - it's an eBook service that has a quiz element at the end similar to Accelerated Reader (AR), and there are audiobooks, graphic novels, etc. That upper-elementary group really likes the Cat Ninja series, which is an Epic exclusive. But there should be "print book" time. Those same groups of kids love Wimpy Kid and Dogman just as much as the Andrew Clements books and the "I Survived" series. The most recent installment is on the 1910 Wellington/Stevens Pass WA avalanche that killed nearly 100 people. Local history in an exciting and gripping book for kids.

I'm going a bit off-topic, I guess...
 
Alabama Public TV will end Children's schedule at 3pm starting this Monday while WSRE will end it at 1pm starting on the same day.

Alabama Public TV will air thier syndicated Children's schedule at between 6:30am to 7:30am and 1pm to 3pm while WSRE will remove Arthur returns from thier schedule.
 
Now that it's getting closer I looked at the schedule again and iowa still shows children's programs ending at 5:30pm on Monday February 6th.
 
Here is a weird one
KAWE (Bemidji, MN) and KAWB (Brainerd) right now runs Kids programming from 7am-11:30 and 1-6. In between is some items from Create (Sewing with Nancy, Garden Smart, Quilt in a Day)

Starting on the 6th they will have kids stuff from 7-11:30 and 2-5. 11:30-2 is some create items,. their local program Common Ground and repeat PBS stuff. 5-6 is Outside Source and BBC News America (which is not shown on any of their channels right now. They do BBC World News at 10:30PM)
 
YouTube TV program guide still shows New Hampshire Public Television with children's programming from 2-5 p.m. next week (Daniel Tiger, Sesame Street, Nature Cat, Wild Kratts, Alma's Way, Xavier Riddle). Adult programming begins with Ask This Old House at 5:00. Children's programming actually begins at 6 a.m. with Arthur and is uninterrupted right through 5.

Vermont sends the kids elsewhere at 2:30, after Odd Squad makes way for It's Sew Easy.
 
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