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Peak

Great bunch of ethical people in the building...
First the diary fiasco and now this...
"Talk KYNO-A/FRESNO owner JOHN OSTLUND has filed suit against PEAK BROADCASTING for alleged "cybersquatting" by registering the web domain kyno1300.com and redirecting it to the website of PEAK's Talk KMJ-A and KMJ-F/FRESNO...PEAK registered the domain in AUGUST, a month before OSTLUND flipped KYNO to Talk. "

That's some classy personnell. Patty needs to clean house and get rid of the immature boneheads responsible for this.
 
Who cares? It happens all the time. Why is JO making a big deal about it? Sounds like a case of sour grapes to me. The only way he can get anybody talking about his flop of a station is when he files suit. Unethical? No. It's funny how Peak beat them to the punch on their own station's website.
 
I agree with freekobe. JO launched a station with a weak line-up, not owning the url to his oh-so-important "trademark," and hasn't moved the ratings up on the scale one bit. This is just a last desperate attempt for some more free advertising from his buddies over at the Bee. By the way, JO's idea of putting newspaper columnists on the radio....genius!
 
That is genius. I wish I had thought of it. Not registering it beforehand is a boneheaded move by Ostlund.
 
freekobe said:
Who cares? It happens all the time. Why is JO making a big deal about it? Sounds like a case of sour grapes to me. The only way he can get anybody talking about his flop of a station is when he files suit. Unethical? No. It's funny how Peak beat them to the punch on their own station's website.
Isn't Osterlund supposed to have a station at 1150 coming soon?
 
ki6bkj said:
freekobe said:
Who cares? It happens all the time. Why is JO making a big deal about it? Sounds like a case of sour grapes to me. The only way he can get anybody talking about his flop of a station is when he files suit. Unethical? No. It's funny how Peak beat them to the punch on their own station's website.
Isn't Osterlund supposed to have a station at 1150 coming soon?
I heard the same thing about 1150 lets hope its not a copy of KYNO
 
It doesn't matter if Peak beat him to the domain, it doesn't matter if it's cute! Cybersquatting is cybersquatting by any other name. Ambushing another company's "brand", call letters, slogans, or what have you is (a) stupid, (b) unprofessional, (c) going to cost you in a lawsuit, (d) shows a great degree of creative bankruptcy... A station's call letters are considered part of its "assets" as are its domains. Peak "stole" a portion of Ostlund's assets. Is this the best you can do to be competitive? Small market mentality, indeed.
 
It isn't 1995 anymore. If you get an idea for a domain, you register it then and there. Costs about 10-bucks. John Ostlund neglecting to register his url in a timely fashon is just dumb in 2009.

Can't fault the competition for being... Competitive!
 
Competitive?
That's low for any organization to do. It's not competition, it's childish. I would expect this from a Top 40 station or Rock station and possibly even a Country Competitor, but for what is supposed to be a respectable NEWS organization, not professional at all.
KMJ and everyone there lost credibility in my book. Competition is beating the competitor fairly. What KMJ did was hitting below the belt, unethical, and just plain wrong.
I think it shows the character of each one of you that have defended this action and applauded the stupidity of whoever is behind this. You people are what's wrong with radio today. What a disgrace to the medium.
 
Robnokshus is absolutely right. By the way News2me, if you were looking for a mature, dignified career maybe you should have been a mortician... or a priest. Perhaps (uh-oh I'm going into condescending mode) a Fresno radio lesson is in order. In the 1960's KMAK decided to give away a $1500 jackpot. Listeners had to find the "golden key" to open the jackpot. KYNO spread fake keys all over Fresno and effectively killed KMAK's promotion. Genius. Radio is a war. There is a small pie and too many mouths to feed so you do what you can to get yours. Period. Don't like the heat, get out of the kitchen.
 
MUSIC radio is war. News radio shouldn't be involved in those kind of childish antics and bumpersticker plastered competitor station vehicle mentality.
I expect that from MUSIC stations, not news organizations.
Had this been ANY music station, I would have gotten a chuckle, but from KMJ? Come on, that shows nothing but a lack of class.
 
How long have you people been in the business, like two minutes?

I hate to tell you but the small market pinheads are the so-called professionals who are bent out of shape over the Peak web stunt rather than plotting creative payback… sorry boys, but that’s the way it’s done in serious radio.

The Peak stunt is as old as the Web…. Jacor snagged the domain names of their significant competition and set up redirects to their own long before anybody had any clue that the Web even existed. I have no idea how that shook out, some domains I know they sold to the competition later; others they gave up after the redirects had served their purpose.

The stunting to steal another station’s audience goes back … way back, long before personal computers.

The Power Pig (WFLZ 93.3/Tampa) ran Scott Shannon out of town on the rail of their “Screw the Q” (Q 105, WRBQ) campaign and is now being celebrated with tributes for the creative stealing of audience (http://radio.about.com/cs/1/a/aa051604a.htm).

When WSUN tried a run at dominate NewsRadio 970 WFLA in the same market, WSUN billboards were altered by people who shall remain nameless to read WSUX... guess which one is gone.

Even more common is for a music station to flier every car in a venue, where a concert is being promoted by another station thanking that station for bringing the band to town and advertising that in “tribute” the station that distributed the fliers will be tracking commercial free blocks of the main act’s hits after the concert and through the night.

Every market has a long list of such stunts. The one thing they all have in common is that they are pulled by the most creative group in the market. That creativity in stealing cume only succeeds if the station has the same kind of creative genius on the air. In the cases above, and in the case of Peak they do – even if the stunt is a really, really, really minor one.

No different in TV.... Boston used to be famous as a market where any reporter foolish enough to put a mic flag up on a podium would find his connect "lost"... mostly because another station would cut the mic cord.

Get used to it.... it's part of the business. Can't handle it? Get a job in a corporate office.
 
Sorry...you did referrence a news talk station but with no real indication who was behind the stunt... could have been someone not directly affiliated with the station, we don't know so it can't really be used to make your case.
 
(A) Like I said, nameless
(B) Not as common in news or talk radio now simply because there are so few left with local content. Rewind to the pre-consoliation days and it was bloody. As a producer of a radio news/talk morning show, more than once I stole high-profile guests from not only other stations but local and even network TV shows (like the Today Show).... real simple, my limo got to the guest a half-hour before the TV limo. We had a marked news vehicle assigned just to get the call letters into TV live shots during breaking news, people who were expert at "canceling" guest appearences on other stations. For talkers we had expert phone hackers who could flood a struggling talk host on another station with crank calls until he stopped taking calls and just died on the air.... etc...

Some people are better suited to a corporate cubical environment where the rules keep the hungry and aggressive down to the mediocre level of the well-defined minimums that prevail in those places.
 
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