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Peter B. Collins to be Syndicated

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Peter B. Collins is the latest liberal talk show host to enter the syndication market. Peter B. has been quietly broadcasting daily, 3pm to 6pm on KXRA,AM 540 in Monterey for the past six months. He announced on his Friday show that starting April 10th his daily show will be picked up by KSAC in Sacremento and KPHX, the new lib talker in Phoenix. This will increase the radio listeners that have access to Peter B's show by 900%. Not a bad a start for a syndication effort. The question is, now that that two of top three lib talkers are not affiliated with AAR --Ed Schultz and Stephanie Miller -- and other non AAR lib talkers like Alan Colmes, Lionel, Liz Brown, and now Peter B. -- are gaining distribution is AAR's dominant position at risk?<P ID="signature">______________
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Good news. Good show.

You can hear Peter's KRXA program 6 pm to 9 pm Eastern online:
http://64.182.248.162:8230/listen.pls
Audio stream requires WinAmp or Real Player.

The other logical candidate to pick up Peter would be non-AAR progressive talk station WWKB in Buffalo, which now does a re-run of Stephanie Miller in Peter's time slot. If they do take the show, outside of summer months, much of the East would also be able to hear at least some of Peter's program on 1520 AM.

AAR will probably continue to be the 500 pound gorilla of progressive talk for a while. Competition may also spur them to produce a better product. And, just judging by recent comments on this board, fans of the format don't see AAR as synonymous with progressive talk like they used to.


> Peter B. Collins is the latest liberal talk show host to
> enter the syndication market. Peter B. has been quietly
> broadcasting daily, 3pm to 6pm on KXRA,AM 540 in Monterey
> for the past six months. He announced on his Friday show
> that starting April 10th his daily show will be picked up by
> KSAC in Sacremento and KPHX, the new lib talker in Phoenix.
> This will increase the radio listeners that have access to
> Peter B's show by 900%. Not a bad a start for a syndication
> effort. The question is, now that that two of top three lib
> talkers are not affiliated with AAR --Ed Schultz and
> Stephanie Miller -- and other non AAR lib talkers like Alan
> Colmes, Lionel, Liz Brown, and now Peter B. -- are gaining
> distribution is AAR's dominant position at risk?
>
 
This is <a target="_blank" href=http://www.peterbcollins.com/>Peter's Web site</a>: "KGOE/1480 serving Eureka, Arcata and Humboldt County, California"

Where did you read/hear Peter will be on KPHX 1480 in Phoenix, starting April 10th?

> Peter B. Collins is the latest liberal talk show host to
> enter the syndication market. Peter B. has been quietly
> broadcasting daily, 3pm to 6pm on KXRA,AM 540 in Monterey
> for the past six months. He announced on his Friday show
> that starting April 10th his daily show will be picked up by
> KSAC in Sacremento and KPHX, the new lib talker in Phoenix.
> This will increase the radio listeners that have access to
> Peter B's show by 900%. Not a bad a start for a syndication
> effort. The question is, now that that two of top three lib
> talkers are not affiliated with AAR --Ed Schultz and
> Stephanie Miller -- and other non AAR lib talkers like Alan
> Colmes, Lionel, Liz Brown, and now Peter B. -- are gaining
> distribution is AAR's dominant position at risk?
 
> Where did you read/hear Peter will be on KPHX 1480 in
> Phoenix, starting April 10th?

Peter B. announced that his show will start broadcasting in Phoenix on April 10th. I assumed that he was talking about KPHX.
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The question is, now that that two of top three lib
> talkers are not affiliated with AAR --Ed Schultz and
> Stephanie Miller -- and other non AAR lib talkers like Alan
> Colmes, Lionel, Liz Brown, and now Peter B. -- are gaining
> distribution is AAR's dominant position at risk?

How do you figure that Miller is one of the top three libtalkers? Franken, Rhodes, and Schultz all have far more affiliates and Franken and Rhodes are both carried in the #1 market, while Miller and Schultz are not.
 
According to Talkers Magazine's (questionable) estimates, the top three progressive talk hosts by number of listeners are:
1. Ed Schultz
2. Al Franken
3. (tie) Alan Colmes and Stephanie Miller

Rhodes is heard in the evening on many stations, which reduces her actual and potential audience considerably. And stations carrying Schultz and/or Miller often have higher AQH shares in their respective markets (due to various factors).

>
> How do you figure that Miller is one of the top three
> libtalkers? Franken, Rhodes, and Schultz all have far more
> affiliates and Franken and Rhodes are both carried in the #1
> market, while Miller and Schultz are not.
>
 
Rhodes v. Miller

Those Talkers Magazine estimates are a joke. Rhodes is carried in PM drive in Los Angeles, San Francisco, San Diego, Portland, Denver and elsewhere in the west; in PM drive on XM in the east and midwest, and in PM drive in New York, Chicago, Atlanta, Buffalo, West Palm Beach and several other places in the east and midwest. And she's on more than twice as many stations as Miller. There's no way that Miller has more listeners than Rhodes


> According to Talkers Magazine's (questionable) estimates,
> the top three progressive talk hosts by number of listeners
> are:
> 1. Ed Schultz
> 2. Al Franken
> 3. (tie) Alan Colmes and Stephanie Miller
>
> Rhodes is heard in the evening on many stations, which
> reduces her actual and potential audience considerably. And
> stations carrying Schultz and/or Miller often have higher
> AQH shares in their respective markets (due to various
> factors).
.
>
> > How do you figure that Miller is one of the top three
> > libtalkers? Franken, Rhodes, and Schultz all have far
> more
> > affiliates and Franken and Rhodes are both carried in the
> #1
> > market, while Miller and Schultz are not.
> >
>
<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by Scribbler on 04/04/06 02:17 PM.</FONT></P>
 
> AAR will probably continue to be the 500 pound gorilla of progressive talk for a while. Competition may also spur them to produce a better product.

Very true, as we have already seen AAR improve albeit grudgingly. There is some real talent out there, and Peter B. Collins is one of them. Some, like Thom Hartmann, already are flirting with AAR, but it looks like the independents are gaining spectrum while AAR is defending a status quo.<P ID="signature">______________
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Re: Rhodes v. Miller

Can't have it both ways: When Talkers puts Randi at number ten on their Hot Hundred list that's OK and you go along with Phil's statement that "It confirms my ongoing suspicion that Randi Rhodes remains the true star of Air America Radio." But when they estimate her audience as smaller than Steph's, they are a "joke."

We are only guessing here. I have not seen actual Arbitron data and since you have quoted Randi's on-air pronouncements about the ratings, I guess you have not either. I have my listening preferences and you have yours. I suspect when the dust settles, both Randi and Steph will be left standing. However, given the shabby way AAR has treated her, I would not be surprised if Randi picks up another syndicator at some point.

I also suspect Jerry Springer will fold (sooner or later)and Steph's numbers will see big jump - regardless of who AAR tries to move into that slot.

In any case, I think Baroosk raises a valid point. Steph and Big Ed have made a place for themselves and other players, like Peter B. Collins, are coming in. AAR no longer dominates the progressive talk format as it did originally.



> Those Talkers Magazine estimates are a joke. Rhodes is
> carried in PM drive in Los Angeles, San Francisco, San
> Diego, Portland, Denver and elsewhere in the west; in PM
> drive on XM in the east and midwest, and in PM drive in New
> York, Chicago, Atlanta, Buffalo, West Palm Beach and several
> other places in the east and midwest. And she's on more
> than twice as many stations as Miller. There's no way that
> Miller has more listeners than Rhodes
>
>
 
> Peter B. Collins is the latest liberal talk show host to
> enter the syndication market. Peter B. has been quietly
> broadcasting daily, 3pm to 6pm on KXRA,AM 540 in Monterey
> for the past six months. He announced on his Friday show
> that starting April 10th his daily show will be picked up by
> KSAC in Sacremento and KPHX, the new lib talker in Phoenix.

SacrAmento, that is. :D

He won't likely be live on KSAC, which runs local talker Christine Craft in his live time slot. Station ownership is not expected to move AURN's Bev Smith out of her evening slot, so Peter B. will likely replace the 10 PM-1 AM repeat of Ed Schultz on the KSAC schedule.

-OA<P ID="signature">______________
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Re: Rhodes v. Miller

> Can't have it both ways: When Talkers puts Randi at number
> ten on their Hot Hundred list that's OK and you go along
> with Phil's statement that "It confirms my ongoing suspicion
> that Randi Rhodes remains the true star of Air America
> Radio." But when they estimate her audience as smaller than
> Steph's, they are a "joke."

Huh? When was that "OK" with me? I don't especially like Rhodes OR Miller and only listen to Rhodes (occasionally) when I'm especially bored with whatever is on the local NPR affiliate. I'd much prefer to listen to Maddow, Franken, Hartmann, Malloy, Collins, Werbe, Ward, or several other talkers than Rhodes. I've always maintained that the Talkers lists are a joke and that the amount of money that syndicators spend on advertising in Talkers is more important than anything else when they make up the lists.
>
> We are only guessing here. I have not seen actual Arbitron
> data and since you have quoted Randi's on-air pronouncements
> about the ratings, I guess you have not either.

I've never quoted Rhodes' "pronouncements about the ratings." I don't listen to her that much and have never heard her say anything about ratings, although I once heard her make the absurd claim that she had eight million listeners. Dream on, Randi. That said, she's on far more stations than Miller and any suggestion that Miller has more listeners than Rhodes is laughable.

I have my
> listening preferences and you have yours. I suspect when
> the dust settles, both Randi and Steph will be left
> standing. However, given the shabby way AAR has treated
> her, I would not be surprised if Randi picks up another
> syndicator at some point.
>
> I also suspect Jerry Springer will fold (sooner or later)and
> Steph's numbers will see big jump - regardless of who AAR
> tries to move into that slot.
>
> In any case, I think Baroosk raises a valid point. Steph
> and Big Ed have made a place for themselves and other
> players, like Peter B. Collins, are coming in. AAR no
> longer dominates the progressive talk format as it did
> originally.
>
>
>
> > Those Talkers Magazine estimates are a joke. Rhodes is
> > carried in PM drive in Los Angeles, San Francisco, San
> > Diego, Portland, Denver and elsewhere in the west; in PM
> > drive on XM in the east and midwest, and in PM drive in
> New
> > York, Chicago, Atlanta, Buffalo, West Palm Beach and
> several
> > other places in the east and midwest. And she's on more
> > than twice as many stations as Miller. There's no way
> that
> > Miller has more listeners than Rhodes
> >
> >
>
 
Re: Rhodes v. Miller

> Can't have it both ways: When Talkers puts Randi at number
> ten on their Hot Hundred list that's OK and you go along
> with Phil's statement that "It confirms my ongoing suspicion
> that Randi Rhodes remains the true star of Air America
> Radio." But when they estimate her audience as smaller than
> Steph's, they are a "joke."

Randi is on more stations than Stephanie. I don't know the raw numbers myself. I enjoy both.

> We are only guessing here. I have not seen actual Arbitron
> data and since you have quoted Randi's on-air pronouncements
> about the ratings, I guess you have not either. I have my
> listening preferences and you have yours. I suspect when
> the dust settles, both Randi and Steph will be left
> standing. However, given the shabby way AAR has treated
> her, I would not be surprised if Randi picks up another
> syndicator at some point.

On this, I agree. If anyone would get ticked off and take her show to Jones, it would be Randi. She is really annoyed about the time shifting of her show, and the fact Franken gets the huge travel budget and attention, but heading to Jones wouldn't solve the Big Ed conflict. :)

> I also suspect Jerry Springer will fold (sooner or later)and
> Steph's numbers will see big jump - regardless of who AAR
> tries to move into that slot.

I agree here too (is this a record?) Springer's show started pretty weak and is not getting any better. He is the Alan Colmes of AAR - he will tolerate and debate the right wingers at length and bore the hard core to tears. His humor bits are awful.
 
Re: Rhodes v. Miller

She might not necessarily go to Jones. Not only other hosts but other syndicators might get into the game. Clear Channel has the single biggest block of progressive talk stations. I'm surprised Premiere Radio has not come up with a PT entry or two already. In hindsight, it looks like they right to pass on syndicating Springer but they might make a deal with Randi. She does have a history with company as a former employee. And there's no law says a new syndicator has to keep Randi in the same time slot. Randi at noon might be interesting. I also wouldn't be surprised if ABC/Citadel hasn't given some thought to syndication of its progressive KGO hosts.

>
> On this, I agree. If anyone would get ticked off and take
> her show to Jones, it would be Randi. She is really annoyed
> about the time shifting of her show, and the fact Franken
> gets the huge travel budget and attention, but heading to
> Jones wouldn't solve the Big Ed conflict. :)
>

Could be a record. I don't think there was ever all that much basic disagreement. But there has been a shift in discussions of AAR on this board in recent months. Maybe I should have given AAR more time for shake-down. But it's been two years, there's other progressive talk product out there and maybe now people who want the format to succeed are less willing as listeners to give AAR a free pass. Now we are talking more about business aspects of progressive talk radio and the relative merits of different shows and different hosts - and talking less about liberals v conservatives, who's right and who's wrong, who's good and who's bad, who takes money from kids and who takes drugs.

What's interesting is that there is a good deal to talk about on the progressive talk side and so little to talk about on the traditional talk side. OK, Rush, O'Reilly or somebody else says something especially dumb once in a while and we can talk a little about that. But, in general, even fans of the conservative hosts don't seem to have much to say about what's happening over on their side. It seems like the quality of preaching to the other choir has gotten old and stale.

>
> I agree here too (is this a record?) Springer's show
> started pretty weak and is not getting any better. He is
> the Alan Colmes of AAR - he will tolerate and debate the
> right wingers at length and bore the hard core to tears.
> His humor bits are awful.
>
 
Some, like Thom Hartmann, already
> are flirting with AAR, but it looks like the independents
> are gaining spectrum while AAR is defending a status quo.

Flirting? He's being syndicated by AAR, streamed by AAR, and he's on the regular AAR network feed for a total of six hours on the weekends. Sounds like marriage, not flirting.
 
>> Some, like Thom Hartmann, already
> > are flirting with AAR, but it looks like the independents
> > are gaining spectrum while AAR is defending a status quo.
>
> Flirting? He's being syndicated by AAR, streamed by AAR,
> and he's on the regular AAR network feed for a total of six
> hours on the weekends. Sounds like marriage, not flirting.

He's also broadcasting from a Clear Channel studio, so it must be bigamy.<P ID="signature">______________
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> >> Some, like Thom Hartmann, already
> > > are flirting with AAR, but it looks like the
> independents
> > > are gaining spectrum while AAR is defending a status
> quo.
> >
> > Flirting? He's being syndicated by AAR, streamed by AAR,
> > and he's on the regular AAR network feed for a total of
> six
> > hours on the weekends. Sounds like marriage, not
> flirting.
>
> He's also broadcasting from a Clear Channel studio, so it
> must be bigamy.

Springer, Franken, and Malloy also broadcast from non-AAR studios. Are they all "bigamists?"
>
 
That underscores my point...

> > > Sounds like marriage, not flirting.
> >
> > He's also broadcasting from a Clear Channel studio, so it
> > must be bigamy.
>
> Springer, Franken, and Malloy also broadcast from non-AAR
> studios. Are they all "bigamists?"

That just makes my point. Somehow Hartmann has a special status where his flagship station is owned by Clear Channel, he is syndicated by AAR, and he is carried independently on a number of stations nationwide.

Sounds like an enviable setup.<P ID="signature">______________
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Re: That underscores my point...

> That just makes my point. Somehow Hartmann has a special
> status where his flagship station is owned by Clear Channel,
> he is syndicated by AAR, and he is carried independently on
> a number of stations nationwide.

KPOJ is not his "flagship station", technically.

He does a local program for them, which is separate from the national program he does from noon-3 PM ET.

AAR syndicates that program now, but it had a few existing affiliates which may or may not be going through AAR Syndication.

-OA<P ID="signature">______________
Ohio Media Watch - <a target="_blank" href=http://ohiomedia.blogspot.com>http://ohiomedia.blogspot.com</a></P>
 
Re: That underscores my point...

> > That just makes my point. Somehow Hartmann has a special
> > status where his flagship station is owned by Clear
> Channel,
> > he is syndicated by AAR, and he is carried independently
> on
> > a number of stations nationwide.
>
> KPOJ is not his "flagship station", technically.
>
> He does a local program for them, which is separate from the
> national program he does from noon-3 PM ET.
>
> AAR syndicates that program now, but it had a few existing
> affiliates which may or may not be going through AAR
> Syndication.
>
> -OA

Clear Channel has nothing to do with his national show, except for the fact that he broadcasts from a Clear Channel studio. I've heard him say that his calls are now screened by an AAR screener in New York and his show is distributed on an AAR satellite feed. How on earth can all this be described as Hartmann "flirting" with AAR?
 
Where Thom Does His Show(s)

> Clear Channel has nothing to do with his national show,
> except for the fact that he broadcasts from a Clear Channel
> studio. I've heard him say that his calls are now screened
> by an AAR screener in New York and his show is distributed
> on an AAR satellite feed. How on earth can all this be
> described as Hartmann "flirting" with AAR?

Beats me. :D

I don't know if Hartmann does either show from the CC Portland studios. Didn't he build a home studio on a houseboat or something when he moved to Portland?

-OA<P ID="signature">______________
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