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Petition Organized To Get Glenn Beck Off KRLA

Earlier this year, his show was dropped in two top markets, New York and Philadelphia. And just recently, in the wake of the union protests in Wisconsin, the station in the state capital of Madison said bye-bye to Beck.

So somebody wondering why his show is still carried in Los Angeles decided to organize a petition to the management of KRLA:
http://act.credoaction.com/campaign/la_drop_beck/index2.html
 
Wow.
Maybe Beck is right after all. Maybe there really IS a conspiracy to shut him up.
I listen to him occasionally, depending on what's happening in the news and my schedule/mood, and find it hard to imagine anyone coming up with "anti-semitic" as one of the counts against him. "Jew lover" maybe, but "anti-semitic"? Geez. Amazing how often The Left ruins their whole case by going overboard into hyperbole...and why is it that most demands for censorship seem to come from the same people who defend the most offensive elsewhere.
I offer this Dennis Prager piece on Left wing censorship since he's also a KRLA talker and sometimes comes under fire from the same sorts of attackers...

http://mnprager.wordpress.com/2011/...n-america-in-the-grip-of-leftwing-censorship/
 
WTFman said:
Wow.
Maybe Beck is right after all. Maybe there really IS a conspiracy to shut him up.

Glenn is right about people trying to shut him up. The petition is proof of this. Imagine what else he's right about. :D

I would think Angelinos are smart enough to listen to all points of view. For those who aren't they can listen to the stations with whispered voices. ;)
 
It is not likely that Salem which is an ultra right wing and Christian broadcaster will take Beck off. In fact they have been adding Beck to their stations in markets where others have dropped him. But Glenn has made life a lot quieter for Rush, nobody even cares about him anymore as all of the left and some of the right are all focused on Beck's rants.
 
Karma has a way of dealing with those who would take a man's bread and butter off his table, interfere with his enjoyment of it or otherwise commit any act that would cause him detriment when he has done no one any harm. If you don't like what he has to say you have two options: Turn the radio off and tell him what you think about it, or just turn the radio off and move on to some other productive activity.

Dealing with one who is deliberately causing harm or attempting to cause harm is different, but not one who is fending for himself.
 
Silkie said:
Karma has a way of dealing with those who would take a man's bread and butter off his table, interfere with his enjoyment of it or otherwise commit any act that would cause him detriment when he has done no one any harm. If you don't like what he has to say you have two options: Turn the radio off and tell him what you think about it, or just turn the radio off and move on to some other productive activity.

Dealing with one who is deliberately causing harm or attempting to cause harm is different, but not one who is fending for himself.

I appreciate your thoughts. The most powerful tools we have and should have are the on/off switch and the channel selector on our radios and TVs. Plus now we have all kinds of optional media options. those that fail to please will disappear and those that do satisfy consumers will live on. Of course free speech gives us to right to protest, peacefully and sanely, which includes letter writing, faxing and of course e-mailing. However it is up to the owners of the media outlets to make the final determination of what airs on their facilities. Would we or should we want that to be any different?
 
Freedom of speech used as the defense for an organized effort to destroy a man does not necessarily come under free speech, and so all the excuses in the world do not take away from the fact that those who would take a man's bread and butter off his table will still come to their own poverty.

Freedom of speech was also used as an excuse in what may be tantamount to criminal impersonation to "get" a governor elsewhere. Was it free speech? Will it next be just having some fun?

It is important to understand the distinction.
 
I'm assuming then Silkie, that you will be writing a letters to Freedomworks and Geico asking that DC Douglas be re-instated as the voice of Geico, correct? After all it is wrong to go after a persons livelihood just because you disagree with what they say, right? I'm assuming that you would apply this reasoning equally to teabaggers, yes?
 
robnokshus06 said:
I'm assuming then Silkie, that you will be writing a letters to Freedomworks and Geico asking that DC Douglas be re-instated as the voice of Geico, correct? After all it is wrong to go after a persons livelihood just because you disagree with what they say, right? I'm assuming that you would apply this reasoning equally to teabaggers, yes?

The right's boogie-man is George Soros, and the left now has the Koch Brothers.

As a liberal who believes in free speech, I am disturbed when people try to deny others their right to speak their mind - no mattter how ridiculous their theories are, and even if it is Glenn Beck. Nobody's ever accused Beck of bigotry, or inciting people to riot. In my mind, that's the only limitation that should be placed on anybody's right to speak.

It's even more disturbing to me when Liberals try to deny people their rights, because it's naturally more disturbing to have hypocrites in your own midst. All hypocrites should be conservatives. ;D

And if Glenn Beck disappers, Jon Stewart will have a lot of empty air-time to fill.
 
The guys who own and run Salem, graduates of Bob Jones University (the school too "conservative" for Billy Graham), call themselves "Christians." It's curious how they reconcile the teachings of Jesus with the anger and hate spewed by Glenn Beck. Salem's own hosts are both conservative and civil and reflect Judeo-Christian principles, to which Beck is anathema. It's hypocrisy for them to put Beck on their air and call themselves "Christians."
 
MattParker said:
The guys who own and run Salem, graduates of Bob Jones University (the school too "conservative" for Billy Graham), call themselves "Christians." It's curious how they reconcile the teachings of Jesus with the anger and hate spewed by Glenn Beck. Salem's own hosts are both conservative and civil and reflect Judeo-Christian principles, to which Beck is anathema. It's hypocrisy for them to put Beck on their air and call themselves "Christians."

I obviously don't know the owners of Salem, but there have been a number of religious leaders who could be accused of "spewing anger and hate." Two who come to mind are Jerry Falwell (d), and Pat Robertson, though I'll admit that Robertson has been more circumspect the past couple of years.

Were these two men being hypocritical to call themselves Christians? I'll buy that, but I'm sure their supporters would disagree. Historically speaking, Falwell and Robertson were pikers. Do The Crusades or the crimes of Inquisitions ring a bell?
 
Lkeller said:
MattParker said:
The guys who own and run Salem, graduates of Bob Jones University (the school too "conservative" for Billy Graham), call themselves "Christians." It's curious how they reconcile the teachings of Jesus with the anger and hate spewed by Glenn Beck. Salem's own hosts are both conservative and civil and reflect Judeo-Christian principles, to which Beck is anathema. It's hypocrisy for them to put Beck on their air and call themselves "Christians."

I obviously don't know the owners of Salem, but there have been a number of religious leaders who could be accused of "spewing anger and hate." Two who come to mind are Jerry Falwell (d), and Pat Robertson, though I'll admit that Robertson has been more circumspect the past couple of years.

Were these two men being hypocritical to call themselves Christians? I'll buy that, but I'm sure their supporters would disagree. Historically speaking, Falwell and Robertson were pikers. Do The Crusades or the crimes of Inquisitions ring a bell?

See Matt 7:15-23
 
MattParker said:
The guys who own and run Salem, graduates of Bob Jones University (the school too "conservative" for Billy Graham), call themselves "Christians." It's curious how they reconcile the teachings of Jesus with the anger and hate spewed by Glenn Beck. Salem's own hosts are both conservative and civil and reflect Judeo-Christian principles, to which Beck is anathema. It's hypocrisy for them to put Beck on their air and call themselves "Christians."

Obviously you are relying on other peoples "Cliffs Notes" interpretations for what Glenn Beck says since you said that he spews anger and hate. I am watching him right now on a TV set only a few feet away and no anger or hate coming out of my set. In fact he is talking about cup cakes, using them to illustrate how the "gold standard" for currency used to function. If anything he is a food fanatic often using pies and cakes to illustrate the allocating of the world's money supply to various uses.

And since he often features Christian and Jewish religious scholars in his discussion panel shows he probably is acceptable to the Salem mangers. He is a Mormon which the last time I checked was a Christian Sect and he ofter quotes from the teachings of Jesus.

You are free to have any view of Beck that you wish but you might want to actually listen or watch before you condemn what he does. I don't accept his views as absolute either, but i do use them, as launching pads to my own research, combined with what I her from others, even gasp!, liberals.
 
Lkeller said:
As a liberal who believes in free speech, I am disturbed when people try to deny others their right to speak their mind - no mattter how ridiculous their theories are, and even if it is Glenn Beck. Nobody's ever accused Beck of bigotry, or inciting people to riot. In my mind, that's the only limitation that should be placed on anybody's right to speak.

It's even more disturbing to me when Liberals try to deny people their rights, because it's naturally more disturbing to have hypocrites in your own midst. All hypocrites should be conservatives. ;D

Well said.

-- Doc
 
I still say you don't take a person's bread & butter off the table because you don't like something the person says or stands for. If the person is breaking laws and has others doing likewise, the person has no right to make a living by means of communications.
 
People don't seem to get that Beck's whole persona is a sham, a ruse, a "work", in pro wrestling terms. He says he doesn't care about politics, he calls what he does an entertainment show. We may never know what his true politics are, but what we see on TV and hear on the radio is just an act. Getting worked up over a former morning zoo DJ spouting off about silly conspiracy theories involving George Soros and the Caliphate is useless. Don't these liberal groups realize that if they do succeed kicking Beck off of KRLA, he'll just show up on another station, plus you just piss off his loyal fanbase? It would accomplish nothing.
 
almaniac27 said:
People don't seem to get that Beck's whole persona is a sham, a ruse, a "work", in pro wrestling terms. He says he doesn't care about politics, he calls what he does an entertainment show. We may never know what his true politics are, but what we see on TV and hear on the radio is just an act. Getting worked up over a former morning zoo DJ spouting off about silly conspiracy theories involving George Soros and the Caliphate is useless. Don't these liberal groups realize that if they do succeed kicking Beck off of KRLA, he'll just show up on another station, plus you just piss off his loyal fanbase? It would accomplish nothing.

I agree with you about the short-sided viewpoint of people (presumably liberals, in this case) who are trying to get Beck off the air - he'll just pop-up somewhere else. This kind of thing just gives the target of the petition more publicity and higher ratings, and makes him look like he's courageously standing up for freedom of speech.

It's like when church groups criticize the content of films, and ask people to boycott. Generally, it just generates more publicity for those films, and helps box office receipts.

I would give Beck the benefit of the doubt about his political views, though. The same rumors used to circulate about Rush Limbaugh - that he wasn't really a right-wing conservative, it was just an act for radio. Supposedly, this was because he was a drug addict, or has a diverse group of personal friends, including gays, etc, etc. I don't buy it - he seems pretty sincere to me. A person can be a right-winger, and develop a drug addiction, or have liberal and gay friends. That is not to say that Limbaugh's or Beck's on-air personas aren't "acts" - they probably are. I haven't listened to Limbaugh in years, outside of the clips they play on the news or Jon Stewart. But I recall that years ago, he had a sense of humor, and would often say something that seemed tongue-in-cheek. Talk hosts are entertainers, whether we like it or not, so that's to be expected.
 
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