Phil Keaggy Speaks out on the industry

[anotherguyTN]

Here's a website to check out for classic CCM:
http://www.one-way.org/jesusmusic/index.html

They also have a page to download out of print classic CCM albums:
http://one-way.autographsystems.com:8000/Login

You can log in with your e-mail address. There aren't any Keaggy albums there, but there is a lot of other classic CCM. ;D

 

[smashedcd]

hey i am in that group ;D

 

[radio4Him]

i invested in something about ten years ago for 5.00..its called a turntable! all the ccm from years past can be gotten on vinyl via ebay and thrift stores. so it really doesnt matter to me what the industry is doing now. if i want jesus music i will listen to jesus music.

Wouldn't it be nice if the industry would just remix more of the music into a listenable sound? Sometimes I scratch my head and wonder how we listened to, much less radio played this music. They have remixed some of the songs but there's plenty more they could spit out.

 

[smashedcd]

i invested in something about ten years ago for 5.00..its called a turntable! all the ccm from years past can be gotten on vinyl via ebay and thrift stores. so it really doesnt matter to me what the industry is doing now. if i want jesus music i will listen to jesus music.

Wouldn't it be nice if the industry would just remix more of the music into a listenable sound?

what??? a listenable sound? please explain? my turntable sounds as good as my cd player. if not better on mint records.

 

[DougD]

i invested in something about ten years ago for 5.00..its called a turntable! all the ccm from years past can be gotten on vinyl via ebay and thrift stores. so it really doesnt matter to me what the industry is doing now. if i want jesus music i will listen to jesus music.

Wouldn't it be nice if the industry would just remix more of the music into a listenable sound? Sometimes I scratch my head and wonder how we listened to, much less radio played this music. They have remixed some of the songs but there's plenty more they could spit out.

Me thinks this is CCM's biggest weakness: its absolute rejection of its older artists and "pioneers" such as Chuck Girard, Randy Matthews, Larry Norman, Dallas Holm, David Meece, etc.\

I think the industry is too "youth oriented" and practices some agism here.

And they say not to shoot your wounded...

 

[radio4Him]

i invested in something about ten years ago for 5.00..its called a turntable! all the ccm from years past can be gotten on vinyl via ebay and thrift stores. so it really doesnt matter to me what the industry is doing now. if i want jesus music i will listen to jesus music.

Wouldn't it be nice if the industry would just remix more of the music into a listenable sound?

what??? a listenable sound? please explain? my turntable sounds as good as my cd player. if not better on mint records.

That's nice but I'm not going back to turntables in my studio. Some of the older music is nothing but keyboard and vocals. Fix that.
Somebody mentioned supporting the older artists music, a lot of these people are not making music any longer not because of the industry. Some are producing, writing books and some are just taking a rest. Their kids are carrying on for them - like Girard's daughter in ZOEgirl.
David Meece was mentioned, he did put out some new music a few years ago and it was not good. Don't blame the industry on that one, he was on an independent label which gave him a lot of freedom. PFR can't even get back to their winning sound and I wouldn't consider them classic Christian music. Sometimes an artist just loses the touch.

 

[smashedcd]

Some of the older music is nothing but keyboard and vocals. Fix that.

the music i grew up with wasnt..david and the giants, phil keaggy, rez band, julie miller, radny stonehill....and isnt todays hit music nothing more than..well..keyboards and vocals...

 

[MightyFrenchman]

Somebody mentioned supporting the older artists music, a lot of these people are not making music any longer not because of the industry. David Meece was mentioned, he did put out some new music a few years ago and it was not good. Don't blame the industry on that one, he was on an independent label which gave him a lot of freedom.
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David Meece was on Myrrh records, not an independent label.

 

[GaryTheThompson]

I haven't heard anything from David recently.

But to his credit and advantage...his bookings are MANY!

He stays quite busy on the road.

 

[R.D.P.]

I believe David Meece's last CD was on Fairoaks? I remember hearing a song from it, on Music Choice. That song was called "There's No Other Hope". It came out in 2002. I liked that song but never got myself a copy of it. If that CD is still in print, would anyone reading advise me to get it? I have some of his other classic CD's, which I love and enjoy listening to.

The classics still have a place, in my heart. I'm glad that Sirius Satellite Radio, is playing them for me again. Heard a classic from Country Crooner Mr. B.J. Thomas, a few minutes ago. That song was beautiful and I liked it. I believe it was called "No Place Like Home". Sirius' CCM channel is mixing the classics with the currents and I like that. Maybe the classics are making a comeback. If they are, hope they'll have powerful impact upon everyone that listens to them. Those songs had a meat and potatoes doctrine to them. Wish this current Worship and CCM stuff had that too. Most of this Worship and current music bores me and I no longer listen to it. Gotta have something that will feed me the Word of God. That is why I avoid most of this new music, that's coming out.

R.D.P <><

 

[radio4Him]

I haven't heard anything from David recently.

But to his credit and advantage...his bookings are MANY!

He stays quite busy on the road.

David Huff is without the giants and doing solo work, one of his newer songs (although a few years old) can be still be heard fequently on Klove and other stations. Radio is playing him.

 

[GaryTheThompson]

I haven't heard anything from David recently.

But to his credit and advantage...his bookings are MANY!

He stays quite busy on the road.

David Huff is without the giants and doing solo work, one of his newer songs (although a few years old) can be still be heard fequently on Klove and other stations. Radio is playing him.

I was talking about David Meece.

 

[neutralobserver]

David Huff is without the giants and doing solo work, one of his newer songs (although a few years old) can be still be heard fequently on Klove and other stations. Radio is playing him.

What song is that? I'm not aware of any.

 

[smashedcd]

David Huff is without the giants and doing solo work, one of his newer songs (although a few years old) can be still be heard fequently on Klove and other stations. Radio is playing him.

What song is that? I'm not aware of any.

www.giantworld.com
"BLUE EYES LIKE JANEY'S

 

[neutralobserver]

David Huff is without the giants and doing solo work, one of his newer songs (although a few years old) can be still be heard fequently on Klove and other stations. Radio is playing him.

What song is that? I'm not aware of any.

www.giantworld.com
"BLUE EYES LIKE JANEY'S

Of the Mediabase-monitored stations, there has been not a single play of that song this year and not a single play of the artist since 2004.

 

[smashedcd]

i am not in radio but i do know and can confirm the song was on klove. i have heard it many times. they also play david and the giants--get together.

 

[neutralobserver]

i am not in radio but i do know and can confirm the song was on klove.

The monitor includes K-Love.

i have heard it many times.

I just ran it again, looking only at K-Love. The monitor disagrees with you. As a matter of fact, no monitored station has played it a single time since Mediabase started monitoring the format in 2004.

they also play david and the giants--get together.

I'm sorry, but, again, the monitor disagrees with you. Seven monitored stations have played it this year, though -- six Salem stations play it fairly heavily, and one other station played it a relatively small number of times in the first three months of the year. (I don't even know that I'm familiar with the song...I'd have to hear it, I guess.)

K-Love's only plays of the artist came in April -- two spins of "I Was The Nails" that I have to assume were tied to Easter.

Perhaps you're confusing K-Love and what you hear on XM's still-Salem-influenced channel.

 

[MightyFrenchman]

David Huff is without the giants and doing solo work, one of his newer songs (although a few years old) can be still be heard fequently on Klove and other stations. Radio is playing him.

What song is that? I'm not aware of any.

www.giantworld.com
"BLUE EYES LIKE JANEY'S

Of the Mediabase-monitored stations, there has been not a single play of that song this year and not a single play of the artist since 2004.

If a station or network of stations like K-Love doesn't subscribe to Arbitron, does Mediabase also ignore them?

 

[neutralobserver]

If a station or network of stations like K-Love doesn't subscribe to Arbitron, does Mediabase also ignore them?

The answer is "no" regardless, but I have to say I'm confused by the word "also."

And who says K-Love doesn't?

 

[74WIXYGrad]

Quote from this thread:
"I think the industry is too "youth oriented" and practices some agism here.

And they say not to shoot your wounded..."

I make kind of a point about that on my blog.

Here is the first post
http://wixygrad.blogspot.com/2006/10/cant-we-all-just-get-along.html

Here is the other
http://wixygrad.blogspot.com/2006/10/holy-war-part-2.html