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Philadelphia Ratings//Spanish Stations

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Kenny1

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WENG 1310 in this Date 2years ago It was 1.4 Now it is in 0.2 What is the problem in that station?
Management? Programming? or what?

WUBA 1480 is 0.3 and WTTM 0.1.

Now WUBA,WEMG,and WTTM ALL Together is 0.6

I think Davidson Media Has to make a big change in Programming to consolidate the ratings close to 1.4 again.
 
I'm surprised WTTM is mentioned as arbitron doesn't usually monitor leased time stations. That stations not all that bad really. Kind of repetitive overnights but there's at least a variety of music, from reggaeton to salsa, merengue and bachata to the mexican banda/ranchera/cumbia/norteña. Even some pop music is thrown in at times as well. Instead of having all those genre's at once, they usually split each into a specific time slot.
 
The three letter answer is "P P M." Now that a meter is being used (as opposed to writing in a diary), certain formats have benefited and others have suffered. Spanish language formats are in that latter group - probably more than any other type of format. Spanish language listeners have tended to over represent the time listening to their favorite stations in diaries. Perhaps it's out of loyalty, perhaps it's cultural, or perhaps there's another reason. But, once the PPM technology was rolled out, most Spanish stations dropped.

Now, we could argue all day as to whether the Hispanic audience is being properly sampled by PPM. Arbitron says yes. Besides, any variation in sampling probably wouldn't account for that big of a plunge. Basically, in the past, ratings for many Spanish stations have been somewhat inflated.

Remember, Philadelphia is not a significant market for Spanish media. The percentage of the population that is Latino is small and most of them are Puerto Ricans who are more apt to listen to the same stations as everyone else. That's why Rumba danced itself into oblivion within a few months. For a number of reasons, there's no ratings (or money) for that sort of programming in Philly.
 
mimo said:
I'm surprised WTTM is mentioned as arbitron doesn't usually monitor leased time stations. That stations not all that bad really. Kind of repetitive overnights but there's at least a variety of music, from reggaeton to salsa, merengue and bachata to the mexican banda/ranchera/cumbia/norteña. Even some pop music is thrown in at times as well. Instead of having all those genre's at once, they usually split each into a specific time slot.

Before coming back to Diaries WTTM signal is code for PPM and it has 10,000 daytime, weak in Philly but Strong in close towns. Arbitron monitor it as Ethnic format.
 
Kenny1 said:
WENG 1310 in this Date 2years ago It was 1.4 Now it is in 0.2 What is the problem in that station?
correction: its WEMG not WENG.
 
Kenny1 said:
mimo said:
I'm surprised WTTM is mentioned as arbitron doesn't usually monitor leased time stations. That stations not all that bad really. Kind of repetitive overnights but there's at least a variety of music, from reggaeton to salsa, merengue and bachata to the mexican banda/ranchera/cumbia/norteña. Even some pop music is thrown in at times as well. Instead of having all those genre's at once, they usually split each into a specific time slot.

Before coming back to Diaries WTTM signal is code for PPM and it has 10,000 daytime, weak in Philly but Strong in close towns. Arbitron monitor it as Ethnic format.

I dunno the signal is fantastic and powerful in all areas of the metro, especially during the day, you can see the stand alone just south of route 70 between 295 and the turnpike red and white painted, in a parking rest area. Now I would tend to believe if WHAT had that signal they would crack the top 10...
 
agreed. Their signal is quite go0d. I used to get it all the way to Williamsport PA daytime. 10,000 watts is more than enough to cover the metro.
 
I strongly disagree. You must of had a superior radio.

10Kw at 1680 doesn't even com close to covering the 8 county Metro. It's the equvialent of about 500w in mid-band. Look at the difference of 5Kw, half the power, of WFIL vs 10Kw of 1680.
http://radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WTTM&service=AM&status=L&hours=D
http://radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WFIL&service=AM&status=L&hours=D

Please note, the scale on the WTTM map is 1 inch = 20 miles. WFIL map is 1 inch = 60 miles.

Even with it's full modulation and seriously wonderful audio processing, 1680 barely reaches the shore. Einstein wrote: Thunder is good. Thunder is impressive. But it's lightning that does the work. Not all that much lightning at 1680Kc.
 
Plus, there has not been great success luring the few remaining AM listeners to the 1600+ end of the band. A large portion of the current radio audience does not even think of the AM even existing. Fewer still tune to that end.
 
WTUX said:
Plus, there has not been great success luring the few remaining AM listeners to the 1600+ end of the band. A large portion of the current radio audience does not even think of the AM even existing. Fewer still tune to that end.

610? 1060? 1210? all get good ratings. Fewer know about KYW on WYSP-D2.
 
Bill_W said:
WTUX said:
Plus, there has not been great success luring the few remaining AM listeners to the 1600+ end of the band. A large portion of the current radio audience does not even think of the AM even existing. Fewer still tune to that end.

610? 1060? 1210? all get good ratings. Fewer know about KYW on WYSP-D2.

If they listen to KYW, they should. They have been cross promoting it for some time now.
 
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