Pirate on 92.7

[ChrisPC]

Has anyone heard the pirate on 92.7 near Camden? It puts out a really good signal; it's at least 10 miles in every direction. I hear it everytime I drive down I-40, between mile marker 120 and 140. There's not much else out there, so it really goes far. It's always running some wacko conspiracy theory talkshows.

 

[NashRadio]

When I read the subject,

I was hoping that (Nashville) pirate 92.5 had moved down a notch. I actually have a preset (of 12 on fm) to 92.5, in case it ever returns!

Did the Mix 92.9 billboard, "Soft rock never sounded so good" (it's been up a while) signal a different mix, even slightly, or was it just another advertizing slogan?

"The best days for Nashville radio lie ahead!"---------------Doug "NashRadio" <P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by NashRadio on 04/04/06 05:48 PM.</FONT></P>

 

[courier37027]

> Has anyone heard the pirate on 92.7 near Camden? It puts out
> a really good signal; it's at least 10 miles in every
> direction. I hear it everytime I drive down I-40, between
> mile marker 120 and 140. There's not much else out there, so
> it really goes far. It's always running some wacko
> conspiracy theory talkshows.
>

Maybe they are broadcasting offshore from a grain barge on the Tennessee River. One must stay mobile when broadcasting conspiracies.

 

[ccmfan]

> > Has anyone heard the pirate on 92.7 near Camden? It puts
> out
> > a really good signal; it's at least 10 miles in every
> > direction. I hear it everytime I drive down I-40, between
> > mile marker 120 and 140. There's not much else out there,
> so
> > it really goes far. It's always running some wacko
> > conspiracy theory talkshows.
> >
>
> Maybe they are broadcasting offshore from a grain barge on
> the Tennessee River. One must stay mobile when broadcasting
> conspiracies.
>

I've picked them up at times when I'm in the Lexington and Parsons areas, where I work occasionally, and as far West as the outer edge of Jackson, where I usually work. They've been on for a couple of years at least. If they're coming in around Camden, they must be pretty strong. I was in Camden over the weekend for a church youth trip, but didn't think about checking to see if it was on. Further East toward Nashville I don't know how far out they go, since usually when I'm going that way my wife and daughter are with me and I don't get to surf the dial as much.

I've asked questions about them on the Memphis board but nobody seems to know about them. I even called the local FM station in Lexington to see what they knew, but they said they didn't know anything, but they've apparently done nothing since to get it shut down.

I agree that there are some real wackos on there at the times I've heard them. I'm really surprised that they've been on as long as they have without being caught and shut down.

 

[anotherguyTN]

I was in Lexington this week, and noticed that the pirate station on 92.7 appeared to be off the air. Does anyone what happened? To be honest, I'm glad they're off.

 

[scottwmro]

Has anyone heard the pirate on 92.7 near Camden? It puts out a really good signal; it's at least 10 miles in every direction. I hear it everytime I drive down I-40, between mile marker 120 and 140. There's not much else out there, so it really goes far. It's always running some wacko conspiracy theory talkshows.

Chris,

Before you jump to conslusions, do your homework. The FCC is giving translators in special cases to AM stations. Why I'm not for some of this, it's a political deal if if your an AM broadcaster with political pull and the TAB is backing you, a stand alone AM broadcaster can get one. I'm a TAB memeber, and while I've not pushed the subject, I going to inject my personal feelings here.
The reason why I say I'm against this idea is that fulltime Class "C" (old Class 1V) station seem to get these FM translators, instead of AM with little or no power at night.
Do your homework in the application section of the FCC database. Sometimes I have found where someone got an STA (Special Temporary Authority) for one and it's not in the database. That's politics for you.
If you have anymore question, ask me or one of the other engineers that monitor this list.

 

[romer979fm]

I'm still curious about the 92.5 pirate in Nashville: haven't heard them in quite a while...but
what a signal: I carried them in my daughters's car from Mt Juliet all the way down to the CC studios
on Music Row. Lost of picket fencing...but atrong enough to put a signal into the building via a GE
SuperRadio next to the window (2nd floor facing west).
Surely someone knows about this operation...high power with good audio...ain;t easy.

BTW Scott...WGNS got their translators 'cause their 1450 signal disappears at night (and Bart's
significant connections)

 

[scottwmro]

I'm still curious about the 92.5 pirate in Nashville: haven't heard them in quite a while...but
what a signal: I carried them in my daughters's car from Mt Juliet all the way down to the CC studios
on Music Row. Lost of picket fencing...but atrong enough to put a signal into the building via a GE
SuperRadio next to the window (2nd floor facing west).
Surely someone knows about this operation...high power with good audio...ain;t easy.

BTW Scott...WGNS got their translators 'cause their 1450 signal disappears at night (and Bart's
significant connections)

I didn't know about the 92.5 pirate. They have some real nerve to be there, South Central and Cumulus should be rasing hell over that!

My opinion, WGNS is a Class C, (old class IV) which has 1 KW day and night, where stations like mine, WTNK, WENO, WNSG, WNAH, etc all have under 25 watts at night. It's only fair that we should get the FM translators. But Chris, this is my guess of what the political people see it: If you operate under 250 watts at night, you're classified as a daytimer (with inprotected nightime). If you have 250 watts or above, you are most probably classified as a Class "B" facility, and you have protected nighttime. The protected nighttime stations will get the translators, we (Class D facilities) won't. I can be wrong, but I have this gut feeling this is the way the NAB wants it to go down.

 

[w9wi]

I'm still curious about the 92.5 pirate in Nashville: haven't heard them in quite a while...but
what a signal: I carried them in my daughters's car from Mt Juliet all the way down to the CC studios
on Music Row. Lost of picket fencing...but atrong enough to put a signal into the building via a GE
SuperRadio next to the window (2nd floor facing west).
Surely someone knows about this operation...high power with good audio...ain;t easy.

BTW Scott...WGNS got their translators 'cause their 1450 signal disappears at night (and Bart's
significant connections)

I didn't know about the 92.5 pirate. They have some real nerve to be there, South Central and Cumulus should be rasing hell over that!

My opinion, WGNS is a Class C, (old class IV) which has 1 KW day and night, where stations like mine, WTNK, WENO, WNSG, WNAH, etc all have under 25 watts at night. It's only fair that we should get the FM translators. But Chris, this is my guess of what the political people see it: If you operate under 250 watts at night, you're classified as a daytimer (with inprotected nightime). If you have 250 watts or above, you are most probably classified as a Class "B" facility, and you have protected nighttime. The protected nighttime stations will get the translators, we (Class D facilities) won't. I can be wrong, but I have this gut feeling this is the way the NAB wants it to go down.

I've heard the 92.7 pirate out there too. I'm quite confident it isn't a legal translator. Right now there are only two stations authorized on 92.7 in Tennessee: WIJV Harriman (East Tennessee) and W224BA Sevierville. (even more East Tennessee) It's not coming from out of state; all 92.7 stations in Alabama, Kentucky, and Mississippi are either translators, LPFM, or Class A, except for a C2 in extreme south Alabama.

(in any case, I heard this station long before the FCC began authorizing FM translators of AM stations)

Scott, I realize you probably won't like the rest of this reply(grin) but... personally I don't think Class D stations deserve any special dispensation with regard to FM translators. Those who applied for new Class D stations or bought existing ones *knew* at the time they were getting something that wasn't allowed to operate at night, or (more recently) that had no protected nighttime coverage.

I suspect (but this is just a WAG) these three specific AM stations were chosen to be the first to get FM translators largely to sidestep day/night issues. All of the AM stations to receive FM translators so far are Class C operations. Virtually all Class C stations have the same facilities day and night. So there's no question as to which facility should be replicated by the FM; the two facilities are the same.

I suspect (and again this is a WAG) the FCC *will* eventually provide for FM translators for *all* classes of AM stations. I just think there's going to be a contentous rulemaking proceeding while they decide how to handle stations whose day and night facilities are different.

 

[scottwmro]

I'm still curious about the 92.5 pirate in Nashville: haven't heard them in quite a while...but
what a signal: I carried them in my daughters's car from Mt Juliet all the way down to the CC studios
on Music Row. Lost of picket fencing...but atrong enough to put a signal into the building via a GE
SuperRadio next to the window (2nd floor facing west).
Surely someone knows about this operation...high power with good audio...ain;t easy.

BTW Scott...WGNS got their translators 'cause their 1450 signal disappears at night (and Bart's
significant connections)

I didn't know about the 92.5 pirate. They have some real nerve to be there, South Central and Cumulus should be rasing hell over that!

My opinion, WGNS is a Class C, (old class IV) which has 1 KW day and night, where stations like mine, WTNK, WENO, WNSG, WNAH, etc all have under 25 watts at night. It's only fair that we should get the FM translators. But Chris, this is my guess of what the political people see it: If you operate under 250 watts at night, you're classified as a daytimer (with inprotected nightime). If you have 250 watts or above, you are most probably classified as a Class "B" facility, and you have protected nighttime. The protected nighttime stations will get the translators, we (Class D facilities) won't. I can be wrong, but I have this gut feeling this is the way the NAB wants it to go down.

I've heard the 92.7 pirate out there too. I'm quite confident it isn't a legal translator. Right now there are only two stations authorized on 92.7 in Tennessee: WIJV Harriman (East Tennessee) and W224BA Sevierville. (even more East Tennessee) It's not coming from out of state; all 92.7 stations in Alabama, Kentucky, and Mississippi are either translators, LPFM, or Class A, except for a C2 in extreme south Alabama.

(in any case, I heard this station long before the FCC began authorizing FM translators of AM stations)

Scott, I realize you probably won't like the rest of this reply(grin) but... personally I don't think Class D stations deserve any special dispensation with regard to FM translators. Those who applied for new Class D stations or bought existing ones *knew* at the time they were getting something that wasn't allowed to operate at night, or (more recently) that had no protected nighttime coverage.

I suspect (but this is just a WAG) these three specific AM stations were chosen to be the first to get FM translators largely to sidestep day/night issues. All of the AM stations to receive FM translators so far are Class C operations. Virtually all Class C stations have the same facilities day and night. So there's no question as to which facility should be replicated by the FM; the two facilities are the same.

I suspect (and again this is a WAG) the FCC *will* eventually provide for FM translators for *all* classes of AM stations. I just think there's going to be a contentous rulemaking proceeding while they decide how to handle stations whose day and night facilities are different.

Hi Doug,

You what burns me up is this, the NAB used us "Class D" stations as an example to the FCC as station that should be awared FM translators. If you got the chance to read the comments in the proposed rulemaking to the FCC, it was not the class "C" stations that were used as a example so much, it was us class D stations. That's the point I'm trying to get across to Chris. The NAB used us Daytimers with flea power, as puppet examples just to help out a select few that have political pull. I happen to know of one Class D in this area that has applyed for a FM translator, and they applied by paper. I won't say which station here on this board because I was told to keep my mouth shut about it.
If you get a chance, read the original rule making comments the NAB made to the FCC, and you'll see what I'm talking about. This is the reason why I'm not an NAB member no longer. I'm still a TAB member.

 

[anotherguyTN]

I went back up I-40 toward Nashville recently and apparently the pirate at 92.7 is back. :-\ Will the FCC ever stop these clowns? ???