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I know I asked about the 106.5 deal earlier, but are there any other FM pirates in the area? Maybe someone who is actually making a go at it, rather than re-broadcasting another signal.

Flinn Broadcasting is not an acceptable answer, but is obvious nonetheless.
 
Re: Pirates and sinking ships

> >
I really havent heard of any other "pirate" stations lately. There really isnt enough room on the dial is there? Except for maybe 95.5, 107.7 and anything else that isnt taken by religious zealots.
 
Re: Pirates and sinking ships

> > >
> I really havent heard of any other "pirate" stations lately.
> There really isnt enough room on the dial is there? Except
> for maybe 95.5, 107.7 and anything else that isnt taken by
> religious zealots.
>
What about 100.7? or 99.3? or 94.5? Just don't put one on 105.1. I try to listen to Magic 105 from Little Rock sometimes.
 
Re: Pirates and sinking ships

> > for maybe 95.5, 107.7 and anything else that isnt taken by
>
> > religious zealots.

Why is it that anyone who is religious is considered to automatically be a "zealot?" Can not one exercize the rights given them by the First Amendment without being an "extremist" or intolerant?

What's wrong with following the Rules as set out by the FCC (began during the Clinton Administration, btw) and setting up stations? Sure, we can discuss whether the policy is wise (and, I don't think it is), but is it acceptable to blame the broadcasters who simply follow the opportunities presented?

OK, enough of that.

> What about 100.7? or 99.3? or 94.5? Just don't put one on
> 105.1. I try to listen to Magic 105 from Little Rock
> sometimes.

100.7. Application pending for a translator in West Memphis. 250w at 79m. K-Love. Going further east will run one into short-spacing Middleton, TN.

99.3. Applications pending for translators for Memphis, Collierville, Covington, and Hickory Withe. Some of these mutually-exclusive apps are for pretty robust transmitters.

94.5. No apps. pending. Of course, there are 1st adjacent issues with Turrell, AR, and co-channel with Helena, AR.

105.1. Well, don't get too used to Magic 105. Apps pending for translators in Germantown and Bartlett. One is for 250w @ 87m (translating Bott stations); one is for 10w @ 359m (translating 94.5 in Helena).

Fun, huh?

DE
 
Re: Pirates and sinking ships

> > > for maybe 95.5, 107.7 and anything else that isnt taken
> by
> >
> > > religious zealots.
>
> Why is it that anyone who is religious is considered to
> automatically be a "zealot?" Can not one exercize the
> rights given them by the First Amendment without being an
> "extremist" or intolerant?
>
> What's wrong with following the Rules as set out by the FCC
> (began during the Clinton Administration, btw) and setting
> up stations? Sure, we can discuss whether the policy is
> wise (and, I don't think it is), but is it acceptable to
> blame the broadcasters who simply follow the opportunities
> presented?
>
> All I was stating simply was that every time you turn around, theres another religious station on the airwaves trying to 'save the world" when most of these peoples gods are green most of the time.
 
Endless K-Loves

> > > for maybe 95.5, 107.7 and anything else that isnt taken
> by
> >
> > > religious zealots.
>
> Why is it that anyone who is religious is considered to
> automatically be a "zealot?" Can not one exercize the
> rights given them by the First Amendment without being an
> "extremist" or intolerant?
> 100.7. Application pending for a translator in West
> Memphis. 250w at 79m. K-Love. Going further east will run
> one into short-spacing Middleton, TN.

Let's see, we have K-Love at 94.7 (Turrell), TWO @ 94.9 (Ripley, TN, Byhalia, MS), I think they're still on AM1170, how many freaking K-Loves do we need?
THAT's what EG was talking about. Religious broadcasters are proving you need not be Clear Channel to be a budding monopolist.

>
> 99.3. Applications pending for translators for Memphis,
> Collierville, Covington, and Hickory Withe. Some of these
> mutually-exclusive apps are for pretty robust transmitters.
>
> 94.5. No apps. pending. Of course, there are 1st adjacent
> issues with Turrell, AR, and co-channel with Helena, AR.
>
> 105.1. Well, don't get too used to Magic 105. Apps pending
> for translators in Germantown and Bartlett. One is for 250w
> @ 87m (translating Bott stations); one is for 10w @ 359m
> (translating 94.5 in Helena).

Doesn't Bott have a translator for their St. Louis station at 90.5, licensed to West Memphis?

>
> Fun, huh?
>
> DE
>
 
Re: Pirates and sinking ships

religious broadcasting has always been with us. Anyone here old enough to remember Garner Ted Armstrong? What about Art Clokey's Davy and Goliath? That Unity lady from Missouri, Kathryn Khulman(sic?), And on radio...Oy Vey!! David Epley, Ernest Angley, The singin' Chuckwagon Gang on WWL, Jimmy Swaggart, etc etc etc...I grew up with these programs,and I consider them an important part of the American fabric, Whether you think they are wack-o or not, they should and will always be around. I like Paul and Jan , especially when they bring on Benny Hinn, or that Carman guy. At least they make religion entertaining. You know what they have to listen to in Iran? Dude it's the worst. Some Mullah who couldn't pass the Columbia School of Broadcasting basic audition reading the same boring mean spirited stuff over and over and over. The music sucks too. Jeez. At least religious broadcasting in America has some fun options. You are also right that the former president is responsible for the proliferation of stations.When you give so MANY licenses away, you're bound to get more than a few amateur stiffs. If Bill Clinton does go to hell like Sean Hannity says he will, it won't be for Monica Lewinski. It'll be for Telecomm '96. You know it too Radiosaur. Besides, they just SOUND like zealots, because that's where the green is. If I had a station and I wanted to make some repectable jack, I sure as heck wouldn't put on some boring Unitarian crap. I'd go for the PASSION, man.Of course I'd present it with a bit more flourish and class than most of these dummies. Then after a few years I could head down to Belize, and bring my ministry along with me. I hear the fishing is fantastic there. Cheap domestic help too.<P ID="signature">______________
Leonard Lawrence</P>
 
Re: Pirates and sinking ships

> religious broadcasting has always been with us.

Absolutely. As soon as the medium was gaining its foothold, evangelists went to the airwaves saving souls. Perhaps the most prominent early televangelist was William Ashley "Billy" Sunday in the 1920s. This well predates Garner Ted Armstrong. Sunday's sermons remain facinating, if not amusing, to listen to.

Perhaps the height tastelessness of pay-for-pray radio came in the 1930s, South of the Border. A quack Kansas doctor by the name of John Romulus Brinkley went to the Border after being run out of Kansas. From there on the powerhouse XERF, he peddled his patent medicine, goat testicles for male verility, and sold time to less-than-high-minded preachers.

Eventually, Brinkley's excesses brought his scheme to an end. XERF went on, of course. We all remember Wolfman Jack.

It's said we all have a book in us, wanting to be written. One day, I'll write one on XERF. Facinating. Just facinating.

> Besides, they just SOUND like
> zealots, because that's where the green is.

But, that's my point. I don't know what their motivations are. And, I try not to be so presumptuous to think that I can see their true intent. I have listened to K-Love and similar outfits, and didn't find them annoyingly zealous. It just annoys me when those who may not agree with the Christian Right, or any other group, try to undermine it by simply dismissing it as kooks and zealots. That type of thinking is facile, and often inaccurate. The accusers, it seems, are often guilty of the same ills they point fingers about.

But, I don't want to be overly negative. There's too much of that here. So, that will conclude my comments on the subject.

BTW: I am not a member of the Christian Right. Heck, I'm a Jew.

DE

<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by DeadElvis on 08/18/05 01:48 AM.</FONT></P>
 
Re: Pirates and sinking ships

> > > for maybe 95.5, 107.7 and anything else that isnt taken
> by
> >
> > > religious zealots.
>
> Why is it that anyone who is religious is considered to
> automatically be a "zealot?" Can not one exercize the
> rights given them by the First Amendment without being an
> "extremist" or intolerant?
>
> What's wrong with following the Rules as set out by the FCC
> (began during the Clinton Administration, btw) and setting
> up stations? Sure, we can discuss whether the policy is
> wise (and, I don't think it is), but is it acceptable to
> blame the broadcasters who simply follow the opportunities
> presented?
>
> OK, enough of that.
>
> > What about 100.7? or 99.3? or 94.5? Just don't put one on
> > 105.1. I try to listen to Magic 105 from Little Rock
> > sometimes.
>
> 100.7. Application pending for a translator in West
> Memphis. 250w at 79m. K-Love. Going further east will run
> one into short-spacing Middleton, TN.
>
> 99.3. Applications pending for translators for Memphis,
> Collierville, Covington, and Hickory Withe. Some of these
> mutually-exclusive apps are for pretty robust transmitters.
>
> 94.5. No apps. pending. Of course, there are 1st adjacent
> issues with Turrell, AR, and co-channel with Helena, AR.
>
> 105.1. Well, don't get too used to Magic 105. Apps pending
> for translators in Germantown and Bartlett. One is for 250w
> @ 87m (translating Bott stations); one is for 10w @ 359m
> (translating 94.5 in Helena).
>
> Fun, huh?
>
> DE
>

I really don't know why either K-LOVE or Bott need translators in the Memphis area since they already have full power stations. I've heard though that some of the translators that EMF, K-LOVE's owners are applying for are for Air 1, which I would definitely be for since it's just barely listenable in certain areas from 93.7 in Marked Tree, AR.
 
I have a question, ccmfan!

> I really don't know why either K-LOVE or Bott need
> translators in the Memphis area since they already have full
> power stations. I've heard though that some of the
> translators that EMF, K-LOVE's owners are applying for are
> for Air 1, which I would definitely be for since it's just
> barely listenable in certain areas from 93.7 in Marked Tree,
> AR.
>

Since I don't listen to K-Love, what is the difference between K-Love and Air 1?
Different artists, styles? I'm just curious, as I have noticed that you have wanted Air 1 here for some time now.
 
Re: Pirates and sinking ships

> > religious broadcasting has always been with us.
>
> Absolutely. As soon as the medium was gaining its foothold,
> evangelists went to the airwaves saving souls. Perhaps the
> most prominent early televangelist was William Ashley
> "Billy" Sunday in the 1920s. This well predates Garner Ted
> Armstrong. Sunday's sermons remain facinating, if not
> amusing, to listen to.
>
> Perhaps the height tastelessness of pay-for-pray radio came
> in the 1930s, South of the Border. A quack Kansas doctor by
> the name of John Romulus Brinkley went to the Border after
> being run out of Kansas. From there on the powerhouse XERF,
> he peddled his patent medicine, goat testicles for male
> verility, and sold time to less-than-high-minded preachers.
>
> Eventually, Brinkley's excesses brought his scheme to an
> end. XERF went on, of course. We all remember Wolfman
> Jack.
>
> It's said we all have a book in us, wanting to be written.
> One day, I'll write one on XERF. Facinating. Just
> facinating.
>
> > Besides, they just SOUND like
> > zealots, because that's where the green is.
>
> But, that's my point. I don't know what their motivations
> are. And, I try not to be so presumptuous to think that I
> can see their true intent. I have listened to K-Love and
> similar outfits, and didn't find them annoyingly zealous.
> It just annoys me when those who may not agree with the
> Christian Right, or any other group, try to undermine it by
> simply dismissing it as kooks and zealots. That type of
> thinking is facile, and often inaccurate. The accusers, it
> seems, are often guilty of the same ills they point fingers
> about.
>
> But, I don't want to be overly negative. There's too much
> of that here. So, that will conclude my comments on the
> subject.
>
> BTW: I am not a member of the Christian Right. Heck, I'm a
> Jew.
>
> DE
>

I'm for anything that will bring more youth oriented options in Christian programming, like Air 1 or WAY-FM. As far as talk oriented Christian programming, I'd rather have Bott or AFR, who are more selective about who they allow on than the ones who allow anything on for a buck like WMQM or even TBN.<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by ccmfan on 08/18/05 02:06 AM.</FONT></P>
 
Re: I have a question, ccmfan!

> > I really don't know why either K-LOVE or Bott need
> > translators in the Memphis area since they already have
> full
> > power stations. I've heard though that some of the
> > translators that EMF, K-LOVE's owners are applying for are
>
> > for Air 1, which I would definitely be for since it's just
>
> > barely listenable in certain areas from 93.7 in Marked
> Tree,
> > AR.
> >
>
> Since I don't listen to K-Love, what is the difference
> between K-Love and Air 1?
> Different artists, styles? I'm just curious, as I have
> noticed that you have wanted Air 1 here for some time now.
>

K-LOVE is AC and Air 1 is more CHR, although there's some overlapping, and K-LOVE has been going more CHR recently. Here are their websites:

http://www.klove.com/

http://www.air1.com/

They both have links where you can listen online.

I'd like to see Air 1 come into Memphis and West TN. I'd also like to see WAY-FM, which is also more youth oriented and has translators in Dyersburg and Union City, expand further into Memphis and the parts of West TN that they don't have a station as well. Their website is http://www.wayfm.com/ I think that they've applied for a translator in Memphis as well.
 
Endless freaking noise!

I wanna see all these damned translators turned OFF. It's screwing up my FM DX'ing!!! Whatta waste of rf. I'd rather let private citizens broadcast their ipods using the translator frequencies using 10 watt transmitters that cover one block, at least it'd be more entertaining.

So, if you guys had a home system and a 10 watt FM transmitter, what would you do with it?<P ID="signature">______________
</P>
 
Re: Endless freaking noise!

> I wanna see all these damned translators turned OFF. It's
> screwing up my FM DX'ing!!! Whatta waste of rf. I'd rather
> let private citizens broadcast their ipods using the
> translator frequencies using 10 watt transmitters that cover
> one block, at least it'd be more entertaining.
>
> So, if you guys had a home system and a 10 watt FM
> transmitter, what would you do with it?
>

First, I'd find a female minority to go in cahoots with, and make the FCC give me a license for at least 25000 watts or more.(or I'd cry discrimination)
Paul-FM!(or MeepFM) would be the format.
I'd play whatever the heck I wanted to.
I'd break out my cd collection, (which is vast and varied like all of yours),
I might do middays one day and afternoons the next.
(Leave the mornings to somebody who thinks they're a star)
The traffic reports would just say,"You know the screwed up traffic areas...stay the hell away from there!"
If I started a song and didn't want to hear the rest...I'd just stop it.
Jiggle bars could advertise free in exchange for passes and free lap dances.
I'd hire a general manager and PD just so I could let them go after they moved because we were "going in another direction".
We'd have a very active golf team.
We'd do a Friday night remote from somewhere like Shooters was back in the day.
(I still cannot believe they paid me so much AND gave me free drinks and food)
From midnight until 6AM we'd simulcast "Soundscapes" from DirecTV, (unless I'd been drinkin' and wanted to come down and put some of my buddies on the air)
I'd have both Bailey AND Loni in the reception area.
I'd hire Curt as my sales manager and fire his ass the first time he mentioned that damn football playing son of his.(But at least the coffee and break area would be clean in the meantime)

Ah...there's a million of 'em, but I'll stop for now.
Oh...one more...
There would absolutely be NO REMOTES from anywhere on Covington Pike, most especially "World Rental Car Sales"-(you know...why buy new when USED will do!?)
This ws fun...guess I'd better getto work now.
-pgh
 
Re: Endless freaking noise!

Ahmed, you tweeeeested bastage.
For once we agree 110%!! That is the best damn programming idea I've ever heard. Fargin' brilliant.<P ID="signature">______________
Leonard Lawrence</P>
 
Re: Endless freaking noise!

> Ahmed, you tweeeeested bastage.
> For once we agree 110%!! That is the best damn programming
> idea I've ever heard. Fargin' brilliant.
>
I thought that was you, you fargin' bastage!
How you been, tweested little man?!
 
Re: Pirates and sinking ships

I'm all for sincere Christian prgramming and programmers....but it's hard to tell sometimes. I think the folks at WAY-FM are good people, and I have offered to do the enginnering for them if they ever came to town...but then again, there are the groups whose god is in fact green. No point in naming them. We all know who they are. I figure if you use the name of God for personal gain, you won't have to stand in line in hell, you'll just get called up to the front...right behind Clinton...and it WILL be for Telecom 96!
<P ID="signature">______________
Never hold a cat and a dustbuster at the same time.</P>
 
Re: I have a question, ccmfan!

> > > I really don't know why either K-LOVE or Bott need
> > > translators in the Memphis area since they already have
> > full
> > > power stations. I've heard though that some of the
> > > translators that EMF, K-LOVE's owners are applying for
> are
> >
> > > for Air 1, which I would definitely be for since it's
> just
> >
> > > barely listenable in certain areas from 93.7 in Marked
> > Tree,
> > > AR.
> > >
> >
> > Since I don't listen to K-Love, what is the difference
> > between K-Love and Air 1?
> > Different artists, styles? I'm just curious, as I have
> > noticed that you have wanted Air 1 here for some time now.
>
> >
>
> K-LOVE is AC and Air 1 is more CHR, although there's some
> overlapping, and K-LOVE has been going more CHR recently.
> Here are their websites:
>
> http://www.klove.com/
>
> http://www.air1.com/
>
> They both have links where you can listen online.
>
> I'd like to see Air 1 come into Memphis and West TN. I'd
> also like to see WAY-FM, which is also more youth oriented
> and has translators in Dyersburg and Union City, expand
> further into Memphis and the parts of West TN that they
> don't have a station as well. Their website is
> http://www.wayfm.com/ I think that they've applied for a
> translator in Memphis as well.
>

www.radiou.com

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