While driving between Lorain and Vermilion, OH I heard polkas being played on 1470am. I listened for almost 20 minutes and never once heard an ID or commercials. Just one polka to another. Anyone know who on 1470 plays all polkas?
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Polkas on 1470 am??
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K6JHU said:If it is 9:00 Am on Sunday, it's Polka time on WNFT, FLint Michigan I beleive
Yes it was between about 9:25am and 9:45am EST. Weird that I heard no trace of WLQR/Toledo, OH which is what usually shows up on 1470 here. Upon checking the frequency again around 12:30pm I got WLQR and no trace of the Flint station.
Since WPON 1460 moved from Telepgraph and Square Lake, 1470 is quite open and I have usually gotten WFNT better in the winter and WLQR better in the summer. I used to get both by nulling the other one out on a sensitive radio. WFNT used to come in quite well off the back lobe in Rochester. But recently it seems like the DA pattern is messed up and I hardly hear it. I'll have to check to see how it is coming in now. I suspect WLQR was off or on the night pattern. Are they still going to rebuild the WLQR facility?
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FreddyE1977
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I used to listen to WFNT (then WKMF) when I lived in the Flint area and they were
the flagship station for Flint Spirits hockey. I lived about 10 miles from the transmitter
and still they were not easy to tune after sundown.
the flagship station for Flint Spirits hockey. I lived about 10 miles from the transmitter
and still they were not easy to tune after sundown.
Buckeyes2001 said:K6JHU said:If it is 9:00 Am on Sunday, it's Polka time on WNFT, FLint Michigan I beleive
Yes it was between about 9:25am and 9:45am EST. Weird that I heard no trace of WLQR/Toledo, OH which is what usually shows up on 1470 here. Upon checking the frequency again around 12:30pm I got WLQR and no trace of the Flint station.
How does WLQR usually come in where you are? I remember when I was in Toledo that signal had some very tight nulls, especially to the southwest and southeast.
FreddyE1977 said:
What location or direction were you from the transmitter? They used to get a lot of interference from WMBD Peoria, but I wonder if it was on day pattern. There's a horizontal null in WMBD's night pattern in the direction of WFNT, but with WMBD's one high tower and three short towers, WMBD's high angle radiation is also greater than one might expect. WFNT's NIF is supposed to be down to about 5.8 mV/m according to recent applications I've looked at.
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FreddyE1977
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I was due east down I-69 aways. Their transmitter was in Burton, I believe.
FreddyE1977 said:
It is... it's on Bristol Rd, right smack between the WTRX array near Dort and the former WFDF site that was about a half mile past Center. They used to be in the "cone of protection" and didn't have to light their short towers as both WTRX and WFDF had taller towers. I don't think they are lighted now, even with WFDF gone. WFNT's night pattern has a sharp null through Davison and up toward North Branch area. It's always had a rough time out that way at night.
There are areas in WTRX's nulls southeast of Lapeer where you can hear Chicago on 1330 during the day, too.
@schmave: WLQR comes in fairly weak during the day but listenable as long as you can get away from electrical interference. I checked 1470 around 4:45pm EST today and heard multiple stations coming in with one of them being WNYY/Ithaca, NY from my location in Vermilion, OH.
WEAW/WKTA did come in sometimes during critical hours. WFIN comes in groundwave in that area when WTRX is off. I heard WELW ID a few times and was confused that it was WEAW. I had an ID and sign off on tape on WEAW just before Wheeling, IL sunset just three miles from WTRX. It may have been when WEAW had six towers. Anybody have the parameters of the old WEAW six tower array?
I wonder what effect that the removal of WFDF and WSNL towers has on the WTRX and WFNT patterns. The last time WTRX and WFNT were substantially tuned up and proofed, the towers were still there as I recall. There are a bunch of detuned high tensions towers, a VHF tower at Spartan Asphalt, the Comcast head end tower, and a cell tower nearby.
I wonder what effect that the removal of WFDF and WSNL towers has on the WTRX and WFNT patterns. The last time WTRX and WFNT were substantially tuned up and proofed, the towers were still there as I recall. There are a bunch of detuned high tensions towers, a VHF tower at Spartan Asphalt, the Comcast head end tower, and a cell tower nearby.
Schroedingers Cat said:
See if this is it:
www.fccinfo.com/CMDProEngine.php?sCurrentService=AM&tabSearchType=Appl&sAppIDNumber=1248141&sHours=N
Thanks, jd. The six tower WEAW/WKTA array was across Dundee Rd. from the present array. They had top loading, but the present four towers do not. The CP is for increased Class D PSSA facilities, with two more towers in between the exisiting four towers. What we all need is a site with old engineering information. David said that if we have enough such information, he could make the information available on his site. There was some information about WAWA 1590 online for example, but I couldn't find it the last time I looked.
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FreddyE1977
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Radio Boogie said:
Yep, I was in Davison Township so I would have been smack dab in the middle of
that null. As I recall WTRX had this goofy site in the middle of a trailer park. The station
was in a mustard yellow building surrounded by towers and lots of trailers. I guess the station
was going broke at one point and they sold off trailer lots on their transmitter site. The last time
I was in the area I think was the last couple of days that WFDF broadcast from the local towers.
Is Dort and South Saginaw still the nudie bar capital of the Upper Midwest?
They took the trailers off the lot when it was sold, and fixed the ground system. For a while it was great. But WEXL IBOC really messes up the signal once you get a few miles into Oakland County, so it's hard to drive the signal on I-75 to see how it is to the south. You used to hear it well to Pontiac. I have to get a really good radio out to null out WEXL to hear WTRX, and it doesn't seem up to snuff where it was consistently good for many years.
They had WFDF operating some days from both sites. They were about 4 Hz different and the heterodyne was something else around Clarkston.
They had WFDF operating some days from both sites. They were about 4 Hz different and the heterodyne was something else around Clarkston.
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FreddyE1977
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Daytime AM signals travel so well in Michigan, with the swampy grounding and all.
IBOC has to play absolute havoc with that. I remember I used to be able to get
the old Honey Radio out of Monroe (500 watts) all the way out towards Saginaw.
IBOC has to play absolute havoc with that. I remember I used to be able to get
the old Honey Radio out of Monroe (500 watts) all the way out towards Saginaw.
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