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Pondering The UnKNWN....

Dx-ing was fun back in the 70’s. The variety would surprise you at every turn. I don’t know why this all went away. Perhaps am formats just became too regulated and stale or they changed their signals to perform more locally. But signals I could dx back in that decade don’t seem to be available today. Good example is KGO San Francisco which came in as a local back in the day and now almost impossible to hear in eastern Washington.
 
Dx-ing was fun back in the 70’s. The variety would surprise you at every turn. I don’t know why this all went away. Perhaps am formats just became too regulated and stale or they changed their signals to perform more locally. But signals I could dx back in that decade don’t seem to be available today. Good example is KGO San Francisco which came in as a local back in the day and now almost impossible to hear in eastern Washington.
Several things happened.

First, the FCC started breaking down the 1-A clear channels, so the big guns could not cover the whole country. Second, nations like Cuba and Mexico added many stations that ate into the coverage of US stations. Third, more and more stations began broadcasting 24/7, blocking channels after 11 PM or Midnight that used to be more open. And, fourth, depending on the year, there were variations in the sunspot cycle and propagation.

In the early 60's, it was hard to hear more than 10 Hawaiian stations. Today, it is nearly impossible to hear even one of them. All the above factors explain why.

(Oh, and serious DXers were upset when Hawaiian stations did not sign off, preventing hearing New Zealand and Australia!
 
The fact that KNWN (the former KOMO) comes in Hawaii to Alaska, down to Phoenix and over the North Pole to Northern Scandinavia is impressive. KIRO doesn't get out anywhere near that far.
 
It appears that KNWN 1000/97.7 is on KPLZ-HD2 while KVI 570 is on KPLZ-HD3. Both stations updated their TOTH IDs recently; heard them both last night.
 
The HD2, 3 channels are there but the audio is way low. Sounds like they don't have the audio levels set right because you need to crank the volume all the way up. Then you have to remember to turn it back down when you tune in the KPLZ HD1 or any other station.
 
I'm a little surprised KVI continues as is - they're paying 2 local talents, Hoffman & Carlson, plus I'm assuming producers for each one. Is it worth the cost, considering Lotus doesn't generally even do this format?
 
The fact that KNWN (the former KOMO) comes in Hawaii to Alaska, down to Phoenix and over the North Pole to Northern Scandinavia is impressive. KIRO doesn't get out anywhere near that far.
Yeah, they just waste their signal over the Metro Survey Area instead of covering Arizona and Alaska.

And, of course, 710 and the lower dial positions tend to have less "short wave like" skywave and the higher frequencies do. On the other hand, the lower frequencies, watt for watt, cover much more.

When I DXed from Ohio in the 60's, high on the dial KRKO was the easiest WA station to hear. But it does not cover the metro!
 
I'm a little surprised KVI continues as is - they're paying 2 local talents, Hoffman & Carlson, plus I'm assuming producers for each one. Is it worth the cost, considering Lotus doesn't generally even do this format?
Lotus does formats that it can make money on. If KVI can be profitable, they will continue to do what they are doing.

Of course, Lotus does not "do" Farsi, either. But they have had a successful and profitable station in LA for decades... in Farsi.
 
KIRO 710 AM got a DX report from Northern Scandinavia along with KTTH in December. But the main area of concern is the Puget Sound and Metro survey area.
 
KIRO 710 AM got a DX report from Northern Scandinavia along with KTTH in December. But the main area of concern is the Puget Sound and Metro survey area.
Exactly. Covering Russia, Scandinavia, Africa, or anywhere outside the metro is a waste of energy. Fun for DX'er's, but they don't pay the power bill.
 
Am curious how HD2+ assignments work as far as FCC is concerned. Does a format have to go through a license review of any kind? If you're assigned an FM frequency, does the HD1-3 go along for the ride, or do you have to license those allocations in addition to the primary?
 
Any licensee of an FM broadcast station may elect to operate with HD, including HD subchannels. They just need to file a form with the FCC declaring their intention.
 
Am curious how HD2+ assignments work as far as FCC is concerned. Does a format have to go through a license review of any kind? If you're assigned an FM frequency, does the HD1-3 go along for the ride, or do you have to license those allocations in addition to the primary?
No extra licenses are necessary for HD subchannels.

A licensed station (i.e. KPLZ 101.5) declares their intention to the FCC via Digital Notification. From there, they're free to put whatever on HD2, HD3 and/or HD4 subchannels without needing authorisation from the FCC. So in a sense, if a licensed station upgrades to HD, the HD2-4 subchannels go along for the ride, with the exception of a royalty fee that goes to Xperi for each HD2-HD4 subchannel (not 100% sure how much); though FCC doesn't require a report or anything.
 
Yeah, they just waste their signal over the Metro Survey Area instead of covering Arizona and Alaska.

And, of course, 710 and the lower dial positions tend to have less "short wave like" skywave and the higher frequencies do. On the other hand, the lower frequencies, watt for watt, cover much more.

When I DXed from Ohio in the 60's, high on the dial KRKO was the easiest WA station to hear. But it does not cover the metro!
Now when did I ever say KNWN or KRKO's signals didn't cover their metros? Did I ever say or suggest they weren't important? I did not. I only illustrated the bonus nighttime AM coverage. For whatever it's worth. That was all.
 
Is KNWN directional away from the S SW? Particularly lately, I've had a hard time picking them up here, and I would think it should be pretty solid.
 
Are you relatively new here? I'm totally blind, so the coverage maps on that site are useless to me, at least for the moment. I know they've got embossers now that can do tactile graphics, but I'm not sure if that technology has come to braille displays yet. If it has, those units are prohibitively expensive for most.
 
Are you relatively new here? I'm totally blind, so the coverage maps on that site are useless to me, at least for the moment. I know they've got embossers now that can do tactile graphics, but I'm not sure if that technology has come to braille displays yet. If it has, those units are prohibitively expensive for most.
Per coverage map, KNWN 1000 is non-directional during the day, north/south directional at night; although the local contour is extended north both day and night because of Puget Sound.

From my experiences on the east side of the Cascades, KNWN is weak during the day, and varies between weak and crystal clear at night. It depends on atmospheric conditions.
 
Am curious how HD2+ assignments work as far as FCC is concerned. Does a format have to go through a license review of any kind? If you're assigned an FM frequency, does the HD1-3 go along for the ride, or do you have to license those allocations in addition to the primary?
I'm surprised that this hasn't been covered. The FCC is legally prevented from interfering with a stations format. It's a free speech issue.
 
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