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Portable HD receivers are coming in 09

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iBiquity expects a handful of portable radios and a growing selection of personal navigation devices (PNDs) or fish finders (FFs) to be available this year with HD Radio reception.

Some MP3 players will include an embedded HD receiver, with the antenna built into the headset.

Others will be stand alone AM/FM/HD. Another model will be an HD Radio accessory that attaches to MP3 players. Steve Jobs won’t be happy..

The new chip design will allow extended battery life of four to six hours.

And optional fan is available to keep your radio cool and extends battery life. It doubles
as a personal cooling fan or hair dryer. IBiquity is planning on HD shower radios,
HD personal massage devices and kitchen appliances with HD built in.

President and CEO Bobby Struble was quoted as saying: “iBiquity’s new chip design is wicked good and goody, goody” He added, first we’ll dominate America, then China,
then Russia, Yahoo!” End of quote..

At the time of press, projected price points were not available but an educated guess would be from $99.99 to $299.99

Read more here:
http://www.consumerelectronicsnet.com/articles/viewarticle.jsp?id=623025
 
Antenna "embedded in the headset" of the mp3 players, eh? That should work GREAT.

As long as the listeners Head Above Average Terrain (HAAT) exceeds 100 meters, that is. :D
 
Pocket,

For comparison purposes, my Sony Walkman runs about 80 hours on one AA alkaline battery. And my iPod Nano runs 12-14 hours on a charge.

Also, I'm thinking these portable HD Radios are not going to work very well on FM unless the coalition gets their 10% power boost, and that they're not going to work at all on AM.

What do you think?
 
Savage said:
Antenna "embedded in the headset" of the mp3 players, eh? That should work GREAT.

As long as the listeners Head Above Average Terrain (HAAT) exceeds 100 meters, that is. :D
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Yeah my FM radio on my sandisk is worthless I'm 15 miles away from KBPA and it can hardly pull it in. KBPA is a 100kw stick!
 
So we all go under the bridge to talk about this right? EVeryone knows who lives under bridges.

pocket-radio said:
iBiquity expects a handful of portable radios and a growing selection of personal navigation devices (PNDs) <Garbage="on">or fish finders (FFs)<Garbage ="off"> to be available this year with HD Radio reception.

Some MP3 players will include an embedded HD receiver, with the antenna built into the headset.

Others will be stand alone AM/FM/HD. Another model will be an HD Radio accessory that attaches to MP3 players. <personal Opinion="on>Steve Jobs won’t be happy..<personal opinion = "off">

The new chip design will allow extended battery life of four to six hours.
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Nice touch actually adding a legit quote from the story.

<troll mode ="on">And optional fan is available to keep your radio cool and extends battery life. It doubles as a personal cooling fan or hair dryer. IBiquity is planning on HD shower radios, HD personal massage devices and kitchen appliances with HD built in. <Troll mode = "Aw heck with it, it's just always on">

<Blatent Fabrication ="on">President and CEO Bobby Struble was quoted as saying: “iBiquity’s new chip design is wicked good and goody, goody” He added, first we’ll dominate America, then China,
then Russia, Yahoo!” End of quote..<Blatent Fabrication="off">
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But regrettably not the end of the intellectual wisdom displayed by the Anti Gang.. While you're at it, Why not make up some other stuff...

At the time of press, projected price points were not available but an educated guess would be from $99.99 to $299.99
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Great job. Now don't forget to make up the attribution to make your hilarity seem more believable...

Read more here:
http://www.consumerelectronicsnet.com/articles/viewarticle.jsp?id=623025
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And Savage wonders why they won't listen to his legit complaints at the FCC. OH well, I guess we all need some hilarity.

Now, "back to the countdown".

Clouseau
 
Good grief, Inspector. Lighten up. It was just a joke.

And no, I don't "wonder why they won't listen to (my) legit complaints at the FCC." The reasons are obvious and have been well-known for over a year.

Attention all: we must BROOK NO FRIVOLITY on the HD Radio board. Put on the dour face. Shouldn't be hard to do. Just pretend you work for the Alliance and you just went out and tried to buy an HD Radio at retail. Then, several weeks later when you found one, you actually tried to get it to receive local HD signals.

:( :(
 
All I've heard and read from the HD radio gang, is the reason sales of HD units are less than stellar is the lack of portables. Well let's see what happens. If the starting price point is $199.99 during a weak economy, that might be a deal breaker. :eek:

The added quotes and remarks were obviously made up and designed to be funny...
Take a moment to laugh and let go of some stress. The industry is going through more changes
and people are being cut loose, again. :mad:
 
I notice that people can get pretty cranky on here... is it just the times, or is it due to overexposure to RF? ???
 
Savage said:
Good grief, Inspector. Lighten up. It was just a joke.

And no, I don't "wonder why they won't listen to (my) legit complaints at the FCC." The reasons are obvious and have been well-known for over a year.

Attention all: we must BROOK NO FRIVOLITY on the HD Radio board. Put on the dour face. Shouldn't be hard to do. Just pretend you work for the Alliance and you just went out and tried to buy an HD Radio at retail. Then, several weeks later when you found one, you actually tried to get it to receive local HD signals.

:( :(
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As we dance with humor while dealing with the more serious complaint issue at the same time, I guess I'll confess to being a little nieve.

That is, I have not lost faith in the FCC. Rather than start a serious discussion here "under the bridge", I'll start a new topic. Pardons if I rained on someone's parade. It's my opinion that MANY of the people on this forum do not wade their way through the never ending mountain of linked material. A link on the STOPIBOC website using the headline and the first few sentences and wound it up with ficticious quotes from WSM ownership supporting HD radio? I doubt I'd think that was funny. Probably not you eiher. :)

Humor is great. Making up a "WYSL to go HD 24 hours according to owner Bob Savage?" Not so much. I think you'd agree. :)

Clouseau
 
audioguy said:
I notice that people can get pretty cranky on here... is it just the times, or is it due to overexposure to RF? ???
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The Pro-iBOCers don't like us to make fun of the many many serious faults of their deadly serious sophmore high school lab experiment especially since it went South before it was even launched. HD is a wonderful wonderful thing AND DON'T YOU FORGET IT or we'll get you!!!!
 
No worries, Clouseau. Actually we "went HD" two years ago 24-7 at WYSL.

Well, actually, we went "HD quality," and unlike IBOC I actually mean "High Definition."

We decided to dump the 6kHz bandpass recommended by our consultant for "maximum coverage and penetration" and defiantly opened the Omnia up to 10kHz. You know, precisely the opposite of the Jeff Littlejohn "prevailing wisdom" about bandpass and crappy consumer radios.

The improvement was dramatic. With the Nautel pumping out 21kw into the phasor, and the transmission lines carefully equalized, the station sparkles. Nice brilliant highs, thundering locomotive-solid low register, high intelligibility. Sounds great on wideband car radios. And you should hear it on anything from boomboxes to table radios to 1950s "All-American Fives." Blows away the local IBOC 50kw mudbox, even five miles from their transmitter. We get compliments from peers, listeners and clients all the time. I think it actually sounds better than many FMs in town. Given that the extreme processing on most FMs produces equivalent bandpass of 12 to 13 kHz, the 10kHz transmitted by WYSL is indistinguishable from those FMs by the average listener.

So much for "AM can't compete because the audio quality sucks."

And no expensive new, 4-hour battery-life radios are necessary to get that quality.
 
If they can design a portable radio with the same selectivity and sensitivity as my Sony XDR-F3HD, I'll get one (so long as the battery life is decent). And that's just because of the "portable radio" part, not the IBOC part which is an added bonus. (Regardless of your view of IBOC, any added non-DRM feature is bonus)

I must admit, though, that I do enjoy Radio IQ, which I can only hear with IBOC at the moment...

- Trip
 
Re: Portable HD receivers are coming in 09

I thought portable HD receivers were supposed to be here in 2007 and 2008.

HD promoters promised that, so it must be so.

I guess we'll just have to let the (HD) chips fail where ever they may.
 
Savage,

Kudos to you for doing great things with AM! Wish I could be there to hear that signal live!

I know that AM audio quality does not have to be bad. I run a Part 15 AM using a Hamilton Rangemaster and a pretty open audio chain. Within the short range that it covers with a decent signal, the audio quality is shockingly good, as monitored on a Superadio III or other high quality AM receiver.

Just another reason to dislike IBOC-- the practice of restricting analog AM analog audio bandwidth to telephone line quality so that when the receiver switches into HD mode (if it ever does), it sounds "so much better". Hogwash!
 
audioguy said:
Pocket,

For comparison purposes, my Sony Walkman runs about 80 hours on one AA alkaline battery. And my iPod Nano runs 12-14 hours on a charge.

Also, I'm thinking these portable HD Radios are not going to work very well on FM unless the coalition gets their 10% power boost, and that they're not going to work at all on AM.

What do you think?
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I'm old, but not that old, but when AM/FM first came to be I'm sure it wasn't perfect and only improved with age. We'll have to wait and see what the public thinks about iBiquity's portables. Apple set the bar high with their MP3 players. & portable radio's are nothing new. Battery life is another issue with their chip design. HD receivers have arrived to the marketplace, during a time when manufactures can't build and ship digital devices fast enough. The wireless category again continues to explode with new gadgets.

Ipods and Apples Iphone now come with free software that enables Pandora/last.fm for personalized radio.
Slacker's mp3 device, another personlized MP3 player..
Not to mention a boatload of cell phones that play mp3's and connect to the web..
Satellite radio...
Nationwide wireless paid/free internet is around the corner too..
wifi/internet radios

Unlike 1960, The market place is crowed with similar digital devices and like it or not HD radio is competing head on for the consumers gadget budget.

Consumers and listeners will decide

I'm not spending another $100.00 to hear music, when my mp3 player and internet satisfy that itch..
And as far as talk, my AM radio's work fine for that purpose & NPR on FM is another option.
If the industry creates programming not found anyplace else and not just another jukebox then that's a different story.

I still say it's the content stupid. It's always been about the content..
 
jras20 said:
Yeah my FM radio on my sandisk is worthless I'm 15 miles away from KBPA and it can hardly pull it in. KBPA is a 100kw stick!
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There's an analogy here with IBOC on AM.

The reason your Sandisk's FM radio sucks is the same reason HD-AM sucks: Because it was conceived by computer engineers who know nothing of RF, radio and broadcasting in general.

In much the same way HD-AM was written to make a system work on a band that cannot support the tech adequately, Sandisk and other high tech manufacturers write software to allow the chipset to receive FM, and it is no equal to a real old fashioned radio because they aren't broadcast engineers with all the knowledge to build a radio from parts, from scratch, possibly blindfolded. ;)

(Although to be fair to the software engineers, my car's radio is supposedly a software-based radio and it is quite wonderful on FM, and also completely buggy at times. Like how on AM, it increases the audio bandwidth as the signal gets weaker, not stronger. Duh.)
 
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