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"Portions of the following program are prerecorded. "

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wadio

Why is this announcement played at approximately 11:55 am on WOR near the end of Mark Simon's show every day?

I hear it on other stations at the start of other programs lately as well.
 
Thanks.

What's odd though is that the announcement on WOR comes near the end of Simon's show every day.

The second article states: "That notification must come at the beginning of the program and be clear and understandable to the audience."
 
wadio said:
The second article states: "That notification must come at the beginning of the program and be clear and understandable to the audience."
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It might be his approach to civil disobedience. Or perhaps the end of his show is pre-recorded.
 
TheBigA said:
It's a corporate mandate from iHeart on ALL stations including music stations. Its in response to the FCC fine imposed on Salem.
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This is something that has bothered me since I first began listening to broadcast radio and TV.

"Pre-recorded" is not a word. You either play a recorded program or it is live. You cannot "pre" something that is not yet done.

There were a few programs that phrased it this way: "The following was recorded for play back at this time" or "The proceeding program was recorded."

The older I get the more I hate the English language (or should I say 'American'?).
 
landtuna said:
The older I get the more I hate the English language (or should I say 'American'?).
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You can be a Luddite or recognize that languages are dynamic; word meanings change, new words are created and old ones are abandoned.

An example of a recent change in usage is the abandonment of the word "of" with couple. It used to be "a couple of idiots..." not it's "a couple idiots...". For me, it is hard to get used to, but for most people under 30 it is normal.

Many internet abbreviated terms and acronyms are becoming accepted words and are in the dictionary. I'm sure many of the old folks in the early 1900's had a hard time assimilating all the new terms associated with radio, wireless, automobiles and the like as technology exploded, too.
 
DavidEduardo said:
You can be a Luddite or recognize that languages are dynamic; word meanings change, new words are created and old ones are abandoned.

An example of a recent change in usage is the abandonment of the word "of" with couple. It used to be "a couple of idiots..." not it's "a couple idiots...". For me, it is hard to get used to, but for most people under 30 it is normal.

Many internet abbreviated terms and acronyms are becoming accepted words and are in the dictionary. I'm sure many of the old folks in the early 1900's had a hard time assimilating all the new terms associated with radio, wireless, automobiles and the like as technology exploded, too.
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But we're not talking about new words or even different meanings for existing words. We are dealing with the bastardization of an existing word. Even given the usual liberty that American English gives us, 'pre-recorded' is a word that means nothing.

You can record something but you cannot record something before it has been recorded - which is what 'pre-recorded' is trying to say. It is either recorded or it isn't.

As far as language by Americans under 30, I try to ignore them. Most haven't been taught proper English (or anything close to it), have a very limited vocabulary, can't spell worth a damn but mostly just don't care. I return the favor. If that makes me a Luddite then so be it.
 
landtuna said:
"Pre-recorded" is not a word.
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And yet it has a definition:

1. prerecord - record before presentation, as of a broadcast. recording, transcription - the act of making a record (especially an audio record); "she watched the recording from a sound-proof booth". record, tape - register electronically; "They recorded her singing".

prerecord in British English. (ˌpriːrɪˈkɔːd) verb (transitive) 1. to record (a radio or TV programme) before broadcasting. 2. to record sound or images (on a CD, cassette, video, etc) beforehand.
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So it IS a word, and it HAS a usage and meaning. Maybe not to you. Not just for people under 30, but anyone who speaks the language.

The British definition is the one I like: "To record beforehand." I think that explains it properly. And sure you can argue that you can't record afterwards, but this is distinguished from real time recording, or to record something NOW.
 
What we've been talking about is usually only mandatory for AM daytimers, but it'd be nice if we got a legal ID, technical details and the prerecording disclaimer at Noon local time at every station across the country, then whoever has news would start it at four or five after the hour.
 
TheBigA said:
And yet it has a definition:

So it IS a word, and it HAS a usage and meaning. Maybe not to you. Not just for people under 30, but anyone who speaks the language.

The British definition is the one I like: "To record beforehand." I think that explains it properly. And sure you can argue that you can't record afterwards, but this is distinguished from real time recording, or to record something NOW.
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So it really is a shorted version of "previous to broadcast recording" or prerecording.

There are apparently quite a few words in English that are shortened abbreviations of phrases. That's how language developed.
 
landtuna said:
But we're not talking about new words or even different meanings for existing words. We are dealing with the bastardization of an existing word. Even given the usual liberty that American English gives us, 'pre-recorded' is a word that means nothing.

You can record something but you cannot record something before it has been recorded - which is what 'pre-recorded' is trying to say. It is either recorded or it isn't.
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But you can abbreviate "previously recorded" into prerecorded. Every word in English with the pre- as that is a standard prefix for "before, previous to, earlier than" as in prehistoric or preview.

As far as language by Americans under 30, I try to ignore them. Most haven't been taught proper English (or anything close to it), have a very limited vocabulary, can't spell worth a damn but mostly just don't care. I return the favor. If that makes me a Luddite then so be it.
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The English that the "next generation" speaks will become the standard version in a few more years. That is how language develops and adapts over time. Heck, it's only been two hundred years or so that Johnson and Webster standardized English spelling. This is a very new language, based on a mixture of various languages that had their eras in all or parts of England along with a few missing terms just stolen from other tongues.
 
DavidEduardo said:
But you can abbreviate "previously recorded" into prerecorded. Every word in English with the pre- as that is a standard prefix for "before, previous to, earlier than" as in prehistoric or preview.
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Then what would be wrong with using just 'recorded'? That is even shorter and more to the point than 'pre-recorded'.
 
TheBigA said:
It's a corporate mandate from iHeart on ALL stations including music stations. Its in response to the FCC fine imposed on Salem.

https://radioink.com/2020/01/30/why-salem-was-hit-with-50000-fcc-fine/

Some other companies are doing it as well as an attempt to prevent getting fined.

https://www.broadcastlawblog.com/20...-seems-to-be-live-fcc-sends-a-50000-reminder/
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Bob Marshall is a quack whose show is nothing more than a vehicle for peddling “supplements.” His PhD. is not even legit. Salem, a so-called Christian media company, is a disgrace.
 
I noticed they have been doing that on DFW area stations since mid-March when the Covid19 crisis in this country began, i don't know if this was IHeart trying to avoid fines in relation to Salem's "live progaming" actually being pretapd programming or due to iHeartMedia adding Covid19 related pre-taped content or point out they are voice-tracking certain times of the day/night. I have heard the "portions of the following program are prerecorded" disclaimer on I heart's DFW rocker/talk KEGL 97.1 The Eagle after the Russ Martin show ends at 7 PM and they go straight into music with Klinger hosting the evening slot on The Eagle.
 
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