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Positive Jack Comments Not Allowed

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RobertGoldberg

I've noticed any comments that are the least positive about Jack 101 are being deleted at the NYRMB. I find it incredible the level of censorship that is taking place over there. If you don't march in step over there with the one sided view of the owner, you are not allowed to post. How can anyone take them serious when they censor dissenting views?

Thank you to the people who run this board who allow all views to be heard from.
 
Positive Jack Comments Not Allowed? Not On My Watch...

> I've noticed any comments that are the least positive about
> Jack 101 are being deleted at the NYRMB. I find it
> incredible the level of censorship that is taking place over
> there. If you don't march in step over there with the one
> sided view of the owner, you are not allowed to post. How
> can anyone take them serious when they censor dissenting
> views?

I gotta be fair, I've seen many a post on the other board endorsing the new Jack format, and if you look further back, they're still there. And of course, several of these posts were replied by fans of the old 101, and I understand that. But I don't recognize any significant pro-Jack posts or threads being deleted. Not on my watch, at least.

> Thank you to the people who run this board who allow all
> views to be heard from.

No problem.<P ID="signature">______________


New York City Radio and TV</P>
 
Re: Positive Jack Comments Not Allowed? Not On My Watch...

I have to respectfully disagree with you. I've refreshed pages and watched posts disappear over there inclucding posts earlier tonight where some people posted that they liked Jack. There was a thread that was started where someone wrote that they really liked Jack a lot and there were a few follow up posts to it and the whole thread got deleted. It's not the first time I've see that. There is definite censorship going on there. I think the board owner has lost it compelely. Now he's calling the people at Infinity scum. SCUM. This from a guy who is called a media watcher that is respected. Censorship and idiotic insults is all that's left over there.
 
Re: Positive Jack Comments Not Allowed? Not On My Watch...

> I have to respectfully disagree with you. I've refreshed
> pages and watched posts disappear over there inclucding
> posts earlier tonight where some people posted that they
> liked Jack. There was a thread that was started where
> someone wrote that they really liked Jack a lot and there
> were a few follow up posts to it and the whole thread got
> deleted. It's not the first time I've see that. There is
> definite censorship going on there. I think the board
> owner has lost it compelely. Now he's calling the people at
> Infinity scum. SCUM. This from a guy who is called a media
> watcher that is respected. Censorship and idiotic insults
> is all that's left over there.
>
Jack rocks!
 
Jack Comments

I hope this isn't true.

I do know that in the past postings challenging or questioning Moderators tend to get scathing replies by some (not all) who run this site. I have occasionally had posts that got "lost" but they weren't specifically critical or one-sided in nature-- they just vanished and I suppose when you consider the mass of postings that go on here that's liable to happen from time to time.

But I do hope you're wrong on censorship being present here.



> I have to respectfully disagree with you. I've refreshed
> pages and watched posts disappear over there inclucding
> posts earlier tonight where some people posted that they
> liked Jack. There was a thread that was started where
> someone wrote that they really liked Jack a lot and there
> were a few follow up posts to it and the whole thread got
> deleted. It's not the first time I've see that. There is
> definite censorship going on there. I think the board
> owner has lost it compelely. Now he's calling the people at
> Infinity scum. SCUM. This from a guy who is called a media
> watcher that is respected. Censorship and idiotic insults
> is all that's left over there.
>
 
Re: Positive Jack Comments Not Allowed? Not On My Watch...

I'll agree with the person who started this thread. There HAS been some censorship on the NYRMB with respect to some positive comments made about JACK. Specifically, I saw posts about Chuck Schumer using the CBS-FM flip to get some publicity for himself get cut...and there have been others too.
The bottom line is that it's Sniffen's board. He makes no bones about it. I think he tries to keep it "safe" over there for the guys in the radio business. He allows dissenting views, but sculpts the number and nature of them to suit his agenda (which is OK since it is his board). In all fairness, if he did not tightly moderate that board, I don't think you'd see the pros posting over there.


> > I've noticed any comments that are the least positive
> about
> > Jack 101 are being deleted at the NYRMB. I find it
> > incredible the level of censorship that is taking place
> over
> > there. If you don't march in step over there with the one
>
> > sided view of the owner, you are not allowed to post. How
>
> > can anyone take them serious when they censor dissenting
> > views?
>
> I gotta be fair, I've seen many a post on the other board
> endorsing the new Jack format, and if you look further back,
> they're still there. And of course, several of these posts
> were replied by fans of the old 101, and I understand that.
> But I don't recognize any significant pro-Jack posts or
> threads being deleted. Not on my watch, at least.
>
> > Thank you to the people who run this board who allow all
> > views to be heard from.
>
> No problem.
>
 
Re: Jack Comments

Rest assured that I wasn't talking about this board, but the New York Radio Message Board. I know of no censorship over here.
 
Re: Positive Jack Comments Not Allowed? Not On My Watch...

In
> all fairness, if he did not tightly moderate that board, I
> don't think you'd see the pros posting over there.
>

How many pros do you think want to be assoicated with a board that calls people scum? It's become a joke over there.
 
Update: Mr. Sniffen Sets The Record Straight

(Source)

"I'm being accused of removing positive comments about "JACK".

I don't have a problem with educated commentary about the station. I don't want the "They play cool music" type posts. That's no different from the standard on the main NYRMB.

If you want to post what is good about this format from the point of view of an educated listener and/or insider, that's fine.

Yes, I realize some of the anti JACK comments are emotional. So I'll concede there's a double standard in that respect. My response is that there is a lot of emotion involved in pulling a 33 year old format so some of the posts are going to reflect that. That kind of emotional attachment is not an issue on a new format.

So, have at with positive commentary provided it brings something to the table (which most of those types of posts to this board have not done thus far)."



So I guess reviewing posts is kinda like screening calls... But I should say that when I go to this or any other board for new posts, I don't expect to read the same viewpoints over and over. Not that I'm saying I'm condoning the deletions I've come to find out he has done.<P ID="signature">______________


New York City Radio and TV</P>
 
Jack Comments

> Rest assured that I wasn't talking about this board, but the
> New York Radio Message Board. I know of no censorship over here.


That's good to hear it wasn't on this board- last thing we need is a radio version of the Patriot Act.

;-]
 
Re: Update: Mr. Sniffen Sets The Record Straight

As long as we are clear that there is a double standard going on there and not for the first time I might add. If you post something Sniffen agrees with, he allows it. If you disagree with his view of the world, you get censored. That board is an ego trip for the benefit of Sniffen who fancies himself as some sort of "PLAYER" in the radio biz.

Sniffen is really the Matt Drudge of message board proprietors.
 
Re: Update: Mr. Sniffen Sets The Record Straight

> As long as we are clear that there is a double standard
> going on there and not for the first time I might add. If
> you post something Sniffen agrees with, he allows it. If
> you disagree with his view of the world, you get censored.
> That board is an ego trip for the benefit of Sniffen who
> fancies himself as some sort of "PLAYER" in the radio biz.
>
>
> Sniffen is really the Matt Drudge of message board
> proprietors.
>

I couldn't get permission to post on the NYRMB even
though the dentist who runs the thing has never seen
nor heard from me in his life. Go figga. Perhaps
Dr. Sniffen's once-a-year appearance on the WABC
Rewound broadcast makes him a radio star.
 
Sniffen should have appeared here

Instead of reposting his message, you should have invited him to appear here. You could have shown him the courtesy this board is known for that Sniffen doesn't give other people. I doubt he would come here tho. He only likes it when he can censor people.
 
Re: Update: Mr. Sniffen Sets The Record Straight

Sniffen won't give permission to post unless he's sure of what kind of posts you'll make.

Here are some things you CAN'T post at the NYRMB.

Pro Jack posts. He even admits to being a hypocrite on this. He requires scholarly essays on positive posts while he doesn't require anything but vitriol when it comes to negative posts.

Posts questioning Phil Boyce. Big no no with Sniffen. Don't do it. It will get deleted in a New York minute.

Liberals and talk radio. You can post negative things about Air American but you can't post that Liberals don't listen to talk radio. Sniffen deletes comments that attempt to explain the listening habit of Liberals. If you don't accept his premise that Liberals fail in talk radio because the hosts are bad and aren't entertaining, your post will get deleted. If you try to show that Liberals fail in talk radio because most Liberals don't listen to talk radio your post will be sent to the electronic gas chamber, exterminated for all time.
 
Re: Update: Mr. Sniffen Sets The Record Straight

for those of us not that plugged into the Big Apple radio scene, what is
NYRMB?

thank you.
>
> I couldn't get permission to post on the NYRMB even
> though the dentist who runs the thing has never seen
> nor heard from me in his life. Go figga. Perhaps
> Dr. Sniffen's once-a-year appearance on the WABC
> Rewound broadcast makes him a radio star.
>
 
Re: Update: Mr. Sniffen Sets The Record Straight

> for those of us not that plugged into the Big Apple radio
> scene, what is
> NYRMB?

The New York Radio Message Board (www.musicradio77.com/wwwboard) is just that: a message board for and about NY radio. It grew out of his main labor of love - a tribute board for 77WABC/New York and its days as a Top40 music station. While many of the early comments were about the admittedly well done site and digging the memories of MusicRadio 77WABC. Years ago, it was populated by quite a few people actually IN radio and a smaller group of radio weenies and wannabes who dig radio talking about (what else?) Radio.

Due to censorship, passwords and an heavy editorial hand at times, the board has slowly evolved into mostly an ego trip for Doctor Sniffen. His "Board Reflections" is a (usually) 30 minute monologue regarding the big topics of the day on "The Mecca Of All Radio Message Boards". It is an excuse to crack a mic for him each week and even features a custom PAMS jingle.

The recent addition of a board for unhappy oldies listeners of WCBS-FM has turned ugly with lists of sponsors advertising on 101.1, threats of boycotts, stock sales and protests along with nasty comments about people involved with the station. Herr Doktor has been busy giving free lights to torches and sharpening the pickforks for the crowd for several weeks now and getting national attention for himself and the message board.

As of the past week, a number of the comments have been turning positive about JACK and even though the regulars are doing their level best to belittle any poster who doesn't march to the preset beat, they are being posted. Even some listeners who started out unsure or disliking the change from oldies to JACK are beginning to find positive things to say about the format.

While his call for no posts of "I like the music" or "wow, they just played..." would normally be in line with his usual (unwritten) policy, the fact that he is permitting the negative camp to continue to post childish outbursts about ANYTHING is uneven at best.

I am friends with a number of the former 'CBS-FM jocks and disliked the way they were dismissed -- it happened to my staff & me at a station I programmed years ago. The postings on the board echoed that for days but now has turned to calls for other stations to pick up the oldies banner -- meaning that the station should change format and fire the staff working at (pick a station even if it doesn't get into the NY metro).

As popular as the oldies format seems to be - (if you read and believe his board - everyone in a 400 mile radius turned to WCBS-FM on a daily basis and listened all day long) - you have to wonder why no other NYC station has stepped up to flip to an oldies format on their air. Older demos maybe?
 
no Oldies in NYC

a) it takes time to change format (if it's done RIGHT)

b) I think CBS-FM flipping has a lot of otherwise sane people questioning the
future of the format. Especially in the #1 market, do they view going Oldies
as an opportunity or as a risk? This minute, my best is on the latter.

> As popular as the oldies format seems to be - (if you read
> and believe his board - everyone in a 400 mile radius turned
> to WCBS-FM on a daily basis and listened all day long) - you
> have to wonder why no other NYC station has stepped up to
> flip to an oldies format on their air. Older demos maybe?
>
 
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